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#30596
Don't take my word for it.

Listen to Rep. Peter King of New York enlighten you concerning who is really responsible.
He slams Obama for his lack of leadership, so you clueless idiots might actually watch.
This is from Monday morning at the Politics and Eggs Breakfast:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/315492-1

For all those johnforbes too chicken shit to click the link, go to c-span.org and search "Politics and Eggs Breakfast".
Watch the video and learn the truth from your own party's mouth.
#30601
Well, it's really easy. There have been recording shown from before the second term started where teabagger leaders say they are going to shut down the government and blame Obama. That's a pretty clear long term plan. Then there are teabagger leaders boasting that they shut down the government "just as they planned". All you need to do to know where to place the blame is believe the teabagger leaders statements that they planned it and are happy to make it happen..
#30613
Listen to Rep. Peter King of New York actually slammed Obama for his total lack of leadership, WOW never thought he would have the guts to that, he's always been such a big Obama fan up until now. Wonder how many others in Congress are turning on Obama as King just did?
#30667
"Listen to Rep. Peter King of New York actually slammed Obama for his total lack of leadership, WOW never thought he would have the guts to that,..."-RealTool

^^^^^That's what RealTool takes from the video, only what I told him about.
He turns his brain off when someone starts to challenge his world view, even when it is his own guys that are trying to wake him up to reality.

And no admission from johnforbes that he has been wrong up to now about who is responsible for the shutdown.
Even after he admits the link is safe, he still won't watch it, which explains all the chicken shit that dribbles from his keyboard instead.
He is incapable of thought just as RealTool is, which also explains the total lack of wit he exhibits.
Then he hypocritically wonders why there is no serious political discussion here.

And sillydaddy and Leroy didn't bother to watch either. Just silence from them.
Not a 'conservative' to be seen here who has the guts to admit the truth, as always.

To make it even easier for you clowns, start the video around the 8-minute mark and watch for about 5 minutes.
Five minutes out of your lives to keep you from being complete buffoons.
That's not beyond your ADD attention span capabilities, is it?
#30668
What caused the slowdown was Obama's arrogant refusal to negotiate a budget.

And the Senate's complete failure to pass a budget for 1200 days.

Obamacare couldn't survive a vote on its own, so Dems want to hide it amid other federal spending.

Repubs have 4 times sent out proposals to fund the rest of the govt, so it is crystal clear this is Obama's shutdown (really slowdown).
#30672
ANY law that passes without A SINGLE vote of the opposition party is not a 'good' law, and any law that requires 1500+ favors of exemption is not a 'good' law. Liberals may not like it but the House is acting within the constitution it is Obama who is in violation.

Obama keeps saying Obamacara is a law passed by Congress that is the law of the land and therefore must be fully funded but yet, Obama has modified the law on his own without going to Congress to grant exemptions to millions of his choosing. It's either a law that applies to everyone or a law that shouldn't apply to anyone. Republicans are right not fund it until that adjustment is made.
#30674
^^^^^They still haven't watched the video and they're still jabbering. In other words, typical conservatives.

"What caused the slowdown was Obama's arrogant refusal to negotiate a budget."-johnforbes
Wrong again, pea brain.

Both your comments miss the point.
The underlying subject of the dispute is not the same as the political mechanics of the dispute.
This would be settled today if Boehner would bring the matter, an actual bill that has majority support of both parties, to a vote, but he won't.
The majority of his party want it settled regardless of the Healthcare dispute, but they aren't given the chance to vote.

King has explained it all to you but you continue to parade your ignorance of the subject.
#30677
Obama keeps saying Obamacara is a law passed by Congress that is the law of the land and therefore must be fully funded but yet, Obama has modified the law on his own without going to Congress to grant exemptions to millions of his choosing. It's either a law that applies to everyone or a law that shouldn't apply to anyone. Republicans are right not fund it until that adjustment is made.

It's like Obama saying all Federal lands must be shut down, shutting out American citizens including vet's but granting an exemption to several thousand illegals to hold a bash America rally, then shutting the park down again after the rally.

Shut the damn Government down until the laws apply to everyone or now one, not just the chosen few Obama grants special privileges to.

Carlos
#30708
johnforbes was beaten by a post as a kid on the ranch when he was building fences.

He tried to put the post in the ground and bury it with a shovel but the post was too smart, battered him about his thick skull, and escaped before johnforbes could even dig the hole.

johnforbes' father only shook his head and told young johnforbes to haul sacks of potatoes instead.
You guessed it, the sacks of potatoes were smarter than johnforbes as well. Not a one ended up in the truck.

These sad stories explain johnforbes' prominent cauliflower ears.
(And yes, the cauliflowers were smarter than johnforbes as well.)
#30714
^^^^^You whining Teabaggers are so pathetic.

You cheer your guys playing brinkmanship and one upmanship on 'principle' to get your way but are surprised to find the other side can play the game as well to get their way and then you are 'outraged' because they're doing what you're doing for the same 'principle'.

You clowns are really a hoot.
Cry me a river, johnboy.
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