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By johnforbes
#131108
So scholar General Milley said the other day blacks used to be counted as 3/4 citizen.

Of course, his factual error referred to the 3/5 clause.

The North wanted blacks to count for zero, the South for 1, so there was a compromise.

The three-fifths rule for counting slaves is often misunderstood. When the Constitutional Convention debated the issue of how to count population for the purposes of representation, the Southern delegates to the Convention would have been pleased if nonvoting slaves had been counted as full persons. That way, the Southern states would have had a greater representation in the House of Representatives. In contrast, some Northern delegates resisted counting slaves at all. Why, asked Elbridge Gerry, “shd. the blacks, who were property in the South, be in the rule of representation more than the cattle & horses of the North?” Among other things, counting slaves provided an incentive to import still more slaves.
By Clownkicker
#131110
"The North wanted blacks to count for zero,..."-johnfibs

Why must johnforbes always resort to blatant lies to make his arguments? <--(Rhetorical question. We all know why)
It's johnny's dishonest trick of substituting one word for another (the word "blacks" for the word "slaves" which are not the same thing, even back then) in the middle of his dishonest arguments.

The North never wanted blacks to not be counted. johnfibs simply made it up. The North wanted SLAVES to not be counted for purposes of representation because in Congress because they had no say over their own lives, and the North didn't want to strengthen incentives to hold slaves. Free blacks in the North were always counted as whole persons, which puts the lie to johnforbes' daily serving of propaganda slop from his handlers' trough.
By Clownkicker
#131119
johnny, presenting me with childish lies does not repair any gaps in my knowledge.

It is an dishonest attempt to corrupt knowledge. It's what you do with everyone; push propaganda as though it were true, with the sole purpose of destroying the very idea of "fact" and "truth."

Thank gawd you're an intellectual pussy and a rhetorical failure.
By johnforbes
#131123
No, you can't defend Milley's ignorance.

He had no idea what he was talking about.
By Clownkicker
#131126
You're right, johnny, I DIDN'T defend Milley's ignorance.

You simply made that up as a distraction because you got caught dishonestly switching the word "blacks" in for "slaves" in your dishonest argument.
By johnforbes
#131129
Given Milley's flab, he couldn't catch much other than a cold.

In his defense, though, some of the main things one would notice on his uniform are the same as mine, so I'll cut him some slack for his ignorance of constitutional history.

As to Clown, I respect his service in the 5th Pansy Regiment.
By Clownkicker
#131131
^^^^^^^And there's the predicted impotent ad hominem attacks from johnforbes in lieu of any rational argument for his indefensible, unsupportable assertions (partisan lies.)

You lose again, johnny. You've reached the point where you once again reveal that you've got nuthin, as always.
By johnforbes
#131136
Why the negativity?

As indicated above, I do respect Clown's service in the Pansy Regiment.
By Clownkicker
#131143
"Why the stupidity?
As indicated above, I do respect my own service in the Pansy Regiment."-johnforbes



Do you think johnforbes will notice that by switching in different words from the original words, I completely changed the meaning of his quotation?
By johnforbes
#131144
Clownslacker is dense.

The radius R = 2GM/c2 (called the Schwarzschild radius) for the Earth, which has a mass of 6 x 1024 kg (that's 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg) is only 9mm (about 0.35 inches).

To get that, you'd have to squash the entire Earth into the size of a marble.

That is how dense Clown's head is.
By Clownkicker
#131145
Wow, johnforbes was actually wounded by that lesson about his switching out words in a quotation.

I think he finally saw his fundamentally-dishonest self for the first time.

It's not easy to face the truth about yourself, is it, johnny...
By sillydaddy
#131146
What I see is a white woman held as a slave and now she is free to celebrate her "joonteen".
And possibly be entitled to reparations...
You agree with me Clown, right? :O
By Clownkicker
#131147
Geezus, sillydummy shows up to interject his ridiculous fantasy that no one has been talking about into the discussion about johnforbes' deliberate mischaracterization of the North's motivations concerning the 3/5 compromise.

Where is this imaginary free "white woman" you're talking about, silly? Is she barefoot in your kitchen doing dishes, where she belongs?
By johnforbes
#131148
Clown is wrong.

There are "white women" out there in the world.

Clown needs to emerge now and then from his dark, deviant, demented den of Frisco limpwrists.

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