[RealJustme]

Democrats voted to impeach him but has decided not to make it official. Until Congress delivers the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate, there is NO impeachment by the House.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^^ Look at the stupid shit Trump supporters desperately tell themselves in order to avoid facing the tragic truth about their fat and angry master.

[johnforbes]

There was a recent article by Larry Tribe, the leftist law prof, urging this very approach recently.

In other words, it permits the Dems to attach a "scarlet letter" to Trump, but then not let the Senate subpoena Comey, Schiff, Ciaramella, Biden, etc.

[elklindo69]

Mulvaney, Pompeo, and Bolton could testify and clear this whole thing up.

Trump: "If you are not guilty of a crime, what do you need immunity for?"

[RealJustme]

Mulvaney, Pompeo, and Bolton could testify and clear this whole thing up.

Clear what up? Sounds like you're admitting the House investigation failed to prove Trump did anything wrong.

[elklindo69]

Mulvaney, Pompeo, and Bolton could testify and clear this whole thing up.

Clear what up? Sounds like you're admitting the House investigation failed to prove Trump did anything wrong.

So why is Trump blocking the three from testifying?

[RealJustme]

Dude the investigation is over, the House said they proved Trump was guilty, so either they have enough or they don't. Why would they need to interview more people if they have evidence proving he's guilty as they say they do?

[elklindo69]

Dude the investigation is over, the House said they proved Trump was guilty, so either they have enough or they don't. Why would they need to interview more people if they have evidence proving he's guilty as they say they do?

The house subpoenaed Mulvaney, Pompeo, and Bolton and they didn't show up to testifty........correct?

They could have easily cleared if Trump.......and then Trump wouldn't have been impeached....correct?

[johnforbes]

The Senate is more likely to subpoena Comey, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Vindman, and Ciarmella...

[elklindo69]

The Senate is more likely to subpoena Comey, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Vindman, and Ciarmella...

Trump will never allow Mulvaney, Pompeo, and Bolton to testify to the senate in exchange for the testimony of Comey, Biden or whoever.

[johnforbes]

Come on, Elkin.

Every president ends up invoking executive privilege...

[RealJustme]

Mitch McConnell said this morning that there has been no impeachment filed, just a vote. He gave Pelosi until the end of this year to either file for impeachment or the Senate would consider it a done matter. He said he has refused to allow Pelosi to dictate how the Senate conducts their business and will continue to do so. He added that he has seen all the evidence the House has and they have nothing to support impeachment, that's why she refuses to file for impeachment.

[elklindo69]

Why are Trumpers afraid to allow Mulvaney, Pompeo, and Bolton to testify?

They can verify if Trump's phone call was "perfect" as he claims?

[RealJustme]

Why are Trumpers afraid to allow Mulvaney, Pompeo, and Bolton to testify?

Why should they, just because Democrats want to make them jump to their commands? It's harassment plain and simple, if I were Trump I would tell them go fuck yourselves too!

[johnforbes]

When asked why the haste, Pelosi told the truth and said they had been working two years on impeaching Trump.

To Pelosi, and her sycophants such as Elkin, the evidence doesn't matter and any other witness would not matter.

[elklindo69]

Trump was bellyaching about the house investigation claiming that the witness testimony was all "hearsay."

Now we have Mulvaney, Pompeo, and Bolton who have direct knowledge of the events that took place. The three can clear this whole thing up. But Trump is blocking them and has not released documents requested by the house.

If Trump had nothing to hide then he would clear them to testify. If Trump knew he was clean then he would have no problem allowing them to testify....

[sillydaddy]

Elk..
Just because someone tells you do jump...
doesn't mean you have to cooperate and ask , "how high?

But let's say they do testify and say that there was nothing wrong with the call....
What do you, Elk, think the Demos would do, "close the case" and go home?

[johnforbes]

So, after saying there was enough evidence to impeach, the Dems seems to want more?

It would appear, to haters like Elkin, that "enough" is never enough.

Elkin should testify, under oath, as to why he hates so much.

[Clownkicker]

For someone who supposedly went to law school, once again johnforbes demonstrates his gross ignorance of the American legal system.

johnny doesn't understand that a grand jury sees enough evidence to indict someone, but that doesn't mean that the trial prosecutors don't need to come up with more and better evidence to insure conviction by a typical jury.

Prosecutors don't go to trial and only present photocopies of grand jury evidence. No, they must present all the evidence again, they call all the witnesses they can and they provide the latest evidence against the accused, even that not seen by the grand jury.

That's why Trump should release all the documents and first hand witnesses to testify. It's the only way he will have his side of the story told at trial, which is what every Trump supporter claims they want. ( But then they could all just be lying to us about it, if past behavior is to be taken into account.)

[RealJustme]

johnny doesn't understand that a grand jury sees enough evidence to indict someone, but that doesn't mean that the trial prosecutors don't need to come up with more and better evidence to insure conviction by a typical jury.

Clown doesn't understand that the House isn't a grand jury, they are the prosecutor, they conduct their investigation and if they feel they have enough to convict, they present it to the court (Senate) for trial.

[RealJustme]

Pelosi to the judge/jury (Senate) "Our investigation has proven Trump did the crimes, not it's your turn to find the evidence to support our charges"

[johnforbes]

I have often explained to Clown how he can view my background and resolve any nagging questions he seems to have.

But he never seems willing, or able.

However, to be fair, Clown seems to have been born in a stable.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, the only nagging in my life is your droning, repetitious, mindless posts that invariably fail to address or refute any point I make and instead make hypocritical, partisan, flailing, desperate personal attacks because your alleged legal training failed to teach you to argue a case.

[johnforbes]

Nonsense.

My posts here are cunningly tailored to suit -- er, fit -- the cognitive level of the forum.

[RealJustme]

Clown once again got busted trying to pretend he knows something about laws. He actually thought the House is nothing more than a grand jury and it's up to the Senate to find evidence to prove their allegations.

[Clownkicker]

Tool, the House is not identical to a grand jury and they are not identical to a prosecutor. Nowhere else in the U.S. does a grand jury prosecute a case. But in this case they act like a grand jury to decide whether or not there is enough evidence to indict Trump. Like a grand jury, that's what they did. No prosecution has begun yet, you ignorant partisan hack, but when a trial starts, some representatives will also prosecute.

RealTool once again got busted trying to pretend he knows something about laws. He actually thought the House is nothing more than a prosecutor and it's up to the Senate to take only what evidence is handed to them by the House without question to prove the Articles of Impeachment. During the trial there may be more more evidence produced and more defense provided than what is merely handed to them by the House.

Now don't you feel stupid?

[johnforbes]

It is now just past 11 am on the East Coast.

Before noon today -- in this very next hour of Clown's miserable life -- he can actually see a digital photo of the wall of my office showing my educational background.

His years of wondering will be over, and his speculation will be replaced with actual information.

Clown knows how to obtain this info, but he constantly refuses to do so.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, I don't wonder at all about your education. You display none at all here. You can't logically argue a point or produce a shred of evidence to support anything you say. You never do.

johhnforbes could easily produce a digital photo of the wall of his so called 'office' today, no doubt studded with internet-acquired and photo-shopped diplomas and not convince anyone except dimwitted Trump supporters that he earned any of them.

johnforbes knows how to post this information, but he constantly refuses to do so.

[RealJustme]

No prosecution has begun yet, you ignorant partisan hack, but when a trial starts, some representatives will also prosecute.

That's because there is no case to be made, the Democrats have nothing to take to the judge and jury. The Senate is the judge and jury, they are not the prosecution.

[johnforbes]

It is now past noon, and Clown has squandered yet another chance to satisfy his curious nature and ascertain my credentials.

Time and time again, I have urged Clown to replace speculation with information, and time and again he has fled from this simple challenge.

For my part, I've often stated my respect for Clown's A.A. degree from the prestigious Lower Swamp Bank Institute for Culinary Dishwashing.

[Clownkicker]

Once again johnforbes wusses out on another chance to post his photo-shopped 'credentials'.

Time and time again johnforbes has pretended he wants to replace speculation with information, and time and again he has fled from this simple challenge.

It is proof positive that he is nothing but a bloviating hypocritical windbag.

[johnforbes]

For the zillionth time, I've explained to Clown how he can gaze upon my credentials.

It is just just past 6 pm, and there is plenty of time for Clown to do so today.

Why is he so afraid?

[RealJustme]

Clown still thinks Trump has been impeached

[Clownkicker]

For the zillionth time, I've explained to johnforbes how he can post his credentials if he doesn't want to be seen as just another internet liar.

It is just past 8 pm, and there is plenty of time for johnforbes to do so today.

Why is he so afraid?

[johnforbes]

Today, the sky is gray and the air is a crisp 32 F.

The coffee is hot and a light mist is rising over the lake.

As this day commences, it affords Clownslacker yet another fresh opportunity to view my credentials and end his long agony of uncertainty.

No, they won't be photo-enhanced or modified in any way. After all, I can barely figure out how to turn a computer to "ON" or "OFF."

Clown knows how to obtain the info he so deeply wants, so why does he remain so afraid?

[elklindo69]

I think we'll get Trump's tax returns before Johnnie can verify those academic credentials.....