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By Intrepid
#67657
CNS news has a story revealing that a .50 caliber sniper rifle Obozo and his stooge Holder allowed to enter Mexico was found among the booty in the possession of the drug lord El Chapo.

Of course Obozo mouthpiece and flunkie Josh (not at all) Ernest has not the first clue or a viable lie cooked up by his "handlers" (tip of the hat to AssClown Loser Lucky) to explain this embarrassing turn of events.
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By RealJustme
#67660
If Obama really feels guns are dangerous, why did he and Holder intentionally send thousands of military grade weapons to Mexican drug lords? Also note Obama is against prosecuting drug crimes and has released 100's of drug dealers, plus he gives them military grade weapons. If a movie was made about Fast and Furious no one would carry it except the Sci_Fi channel because the whole scheme sounds unbelievable.
By Clownkicker
#67661
"If Obama really feels guns are dangerous, why did he and Holder intentionally send thousands of military grade weapons to Mexican drug lords?"-CluelessTool

"...the 15-month operation did lead to grand jury indictments against 34 suspected arms dealers,..."

That's why, dummy.

That was the reason for the whole thing, to get the arms dealers who were supplying the criminals with weapons.

Or are you saying you think it's a bad idea to try to get the arms dealers supplying the criminals with weapons?

(It's funny to see Insipid copy my style because he has no game. But it's hilarious to see him categorize his jacking off to his handlers' propaganda as "Faster and more furious".) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
By Clownkicker
#67667
Well, since you declared victory again without being able to refute anything I said, I guess there's no doubt about who came out on top, is there dumbfuck? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
By elklindo69
#67673
I thought this asinine investigation was put to bed?

So now the GOP now wants to blame Obama for their lax red state gun laws?

Where's the NRA when you need them?
By Clownkicker
#67678
Let me see....
Why wouldn't Holder indict himself and his boss?.....Hmmmmm....that's a tough one....
Every Republican lawbreaker would indict their own, obviously.
You know, the way Richard Kleindienst and Elliot Richardson indicted Nixon.
Any thoughts on that enigma, sillydummy?

And why aren't undercover cops indicted when they commit crimes to maintain their credibility while in deep cover?
So many unfathomable questions...

sillydodo? Do you have evidence that Holder and Obama broke any laws setting up the Fast and Furious sting?
Is it illegal to be arms dealers now?
Remember, just because you don't like it, and just because Obama was involved, doesn't make it illegal.

Can you come up with any wild speculations on these incredible mysteries in the annals of law enforcement, silly?
By Clownkicker
#67697
"So Clown....you agree Obama and Holder are criminals who are above the law."-sillydoofus

I must apologize to johnforbes.
I didn't think anyone could come up with more idiotic non sequiturs than he does, but sillydoodoo has surpassed even johnny's stupidity in this area. :lol:
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By RealJustme
#67698
Or are you saying you think it's a bad idea to try to get the arms dealers supplying the criminals with weapons?
It's a bad idea to provide drug gangs with military grade weapons, we know of cases where those weapons provided by Holder were used to kill Americans. Thousands of military weapons distributed to drug dealers, dead Americans and not one successful prosecution of those who Obama gave the weapons to.
By johnforbes
#67777
There are still many secrets about Fast and Furious, but the astounding fact remains:

At the very highest levels, folks like Holder came up with this idiotic idea, then lied about it when it predictably failed.
By Clownkicker
#67782
Every new day which dawns presents johnforbes with a wonderful opportunity.

He can admit he is sorely mistaken about the things he believes when confronted with the facts or he can continue down his chosen path of being a hypocritical and mindless partisan hack, acting as an apologist for his own party's mistakes while blaming only the party he doesn't like.
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By brandon
#67785
I love these gotcha partisan fights. If one side can go back far enough and point to the origins of any program then the current administration or president is absolved of failed oversight, and/or being held accountable for anything.

And both sides call each other tools, and reactionaries.

:roll:
By sillydaddy
#67786
Grog from your own link......Gunwalking in 2006 was a failure and stopped in 2007......well documented...

Why in the world would Obama and Holder allow it to be used again?

Fast and Furious is Obama's baby.....not Bush.
By Grog
#67788
Try again. President Cheney (anyone that still believes W. was in charge is truly an idiot) came up with the idea of gunwalking. It wasn't Holder's idea as Forbes idiotically continues to repeat, and will soon be C&Ping ad nauseam.
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By brandon
#67789
SD, I think you're right. At least about the F&F part. It was the largest Gunwalking probe and it seems they funded it with stimulus money.


The Jacob Chambers Case began in October 2009 and eventually became known in February 2010 as "Operation Fast and Furious"
In 2009, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009[12] provided $40 million to state and local law enforcement agencies. This money was primarily slated for competitive grants to provide assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the southern border; and, in high-intensity drug trafficking areas, to combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the southern border. $10 million of the money was to be transferred to the BATF for Project Gunrunner to hire personnel and open facilities in 6 new locations. The use of "stimulus" money to fund Project Gunrunner is controversial, given the ATF Phoenix Field Division's reported initiative of allowing known criminals to purchase guns in an effort to gain intelligence on the cartels (Operation Fast and Furious).

In addition, the FY 2009 Omnibus Appropriations Act provided ATF with an additional 5 million for Project Gunrunner.
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By RealJustme
#67837
The gun walking scheme was the brainchild of Cheney.
Cheney's plan called on arresting the thugs that attempted to buy the weapons, it was Holder under Obama that decided to let the weapons "walk" without arrests.
By Intrepid
#67849
It should go without saying that if the shoe was on the other foot the libtards would be apoplectic with rage over allowing guns to get to Mexican drug cartels. But since it's their side that's responsible for this idiocy their all, "Move on, move on...nothing to see here!"
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