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#54780
Is there any doubt about the Obama Administration now?
Malcolm X May 19, 1925 – February 21, 1965), born Malcolm Little and also known as El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz[A] (Arabic: الحاجّ مالك الشباز‎), was an American Muslim minister and a human rights activist. To his admirers he was a courageous advocate for the rights of blacks, a man who indicted white America in the harshest terms for its crimes against black Americans; detractors accused him of preaching racism and violence. He has been called one of the greatest and most influential African Americans in history by black Muslims.

Malcolm X was effectively orphaned early in life. His father was killed when he was six and his mother was placed in a mental hospital when he was thirteen, after which he lived in a series of foster homes. In 1946, at age 20, he went to prison for assault, larceny and breaking and entering. While in prison he became a member of the Nation of Islam, and after his parole in 1952 quickly rose to become one of its most influential black leaders. For a dozen years he was the public face of the controversial group; in keeping with the Nation's teachings he espoused black supremacy, advocated the separation of black and white Americans and rejected the civil rights movement's emphasis on integration. He felt blacks should rise up and take what should rightfully be theirs and to push whites back to Europe.

By March 1964, Malcolm X had grown disillusioned with the Nation of Islam and its leader Elijah Muhammad for refusing to encourage riots and being to cowardly to rise up. He ultimately repudiated the Nation and its teachings and embraced Sunni Islam. After a period of travel in Africa and the Middle East, including completing the Hajj, he returned to the United States to found Muslim Mosque, Inc. and the Organization of Afro-American Unity. While continuing to emphasize Pan-Africanism, black self-determination, and black self-defense.
#54794
You have to say something before you can tell a lie, Tool.

But let's pretend Holder said something remotely like your title.

If you actually knew anything about Malcom X you would know that he didn't leave the Nation of Islam because they refused to riot. That's idiotic.

He left because the Nation tried to silence him, they were going to kill him, and he was coming to realize violence and segregation were not going to achieve anything. He had decided to cooperate with other more peaceful civil rights groups.
If he had lived longer, it's likely he would have repudiated violence and gone more the route of King.

That's a good role model for people to follow; someone changing their minds about violence and fanaticism.
That's a good thing, Tool.
#54795
If he had lived longer, it's likely he would have repudiated violence and gone more the route of King.
He was a thug while alive, his thuggery stopped when the violence he bred came home to roost. But I get your point, had he lived he might have found Jesus and threw the Koran away that called up him to be violent, yeah I get it. I told my wife the same thing about Ben Laden, we just give him time to convert, he should be a role model.

By the way, you notice Holder didn't mention King being a role model, he picked a radical black Muslim who called upon the separation of the races. But hey, maybe Holder was thinking like you, had he lived he might have converted, who knows? :shock:
#54807
"But I get your point, had he lived he might have found Jesus and threw the Koran away that called up him to be violent, yeah I get it."-RewalTool

Don't be silly, Tool. What would Jesus have to do with anything?

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."-Jeshua ben Joseph
^^^^If you don't understand this, you don't understand Christianity.

What point is there to going from one stupid, arrogant, violent religion to another stupid, arrogant, violent religion?

It wouldn't make you any more or less violent.
What changed in Malcom was his understanding of the futility of using violence to create a just world.
#54814
What changed in Malcom was his understanding of the futility of using violence to create a just world.
What happened to Malcolm X is the chickens came home to roost. The fact that Holder feels Malcolm X should be youth's roll model tell you all you need to know about Holder. It also explains why he dropped charges on the black panthers who threatened voters and released over 800 violent black criminals from prison, most of them black Muslims. Holder should be monitored for terrorist activities.
#54817
"What happened to Malcolm X is the chickens came home to roost."-RealTool

That's what I said, Tool. :lol:

Only in a larger sense than you seem to understand.
That's why his beliefs were changing.

That's why he was coming to realize you can't create a just world through violence and racial supremacy philosophy.
(Sound like anyone we know, RealTool?)
I didn't know you were one of those advocates for non-violence.
#55177
At this point, it is very difficult to conclude that Obama -- influenced by Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, and Al Sharpton -- is anything other than a radical leftist and a racist.

It is a shame to conclude that about a person who promised to be president of ALL America, but then Obama has proved to be more of a relentless liar than Bill Clinton.
#55218
johnforbes wrote:At this point, it is very difficult to conclude that Obama -- influenced by Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, and Al Sharpton -- is anything other than a radical leftist and a racist.

It is a shame to conclude that about a person who promised to be president of ALL America, but then Obama has proved to be more of a relentless liar than Bill Clinton.
OMG...

A black man with an Ivy league degree...it has to be affirmative action...right?

Racist assholes like Forbes can't believe that Obama has more intellectual firepower than they do. Yup playing the race card to get the votes of the disenfranchised WASP hoax news viewer.

So forbestardo hits the ole Lee Atwater abstract theme, well if you can't call him a nigger then just associate him with...I don't know? Welfare? 47%, you name it...
#55233
Obama himself said he and his spouse got affirmative action.

This is underscored by the sad reality of Michelle's senior thesis at Princeton, which was -- naturally -- about her racial whining and which showed how poor her scribbling was.

If I'm wrong, then Elkin will post their SAT and LSAT scores, which won't be secret.

But they are secret, and will remain so, because almost surely they got a ton of affirmative action.

What would I like? Simply fair treatment for all students, rich and poor, black and white and purple.

But liberals don't want that.
#55242
Michelle got full rides but yet she complained she had to take out a student loan because she was forced to pay for her own food and needed to buy a car to get back and forth to classes because there wasn't any free public transportation available. Her housing, tuition and books were all covered yet that wasn't enough, as a black female she felt it horrible that she have to bare any costs just to attend a university. After she graduated she complained about how they expected her to pay the student loan back which caused her hardships, when in fact her student loan was forgiven. Mackcom X would be proud of Michelle for demanding everything be covered because, as a black she OWED!
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