[BilboBagend]

"The debt ceiling has frequently been used to pass other legislation." Actually very much true

"Obama's statement that the debt ceiling being seriously challenged for the first time when John Boehner was Speaker of the House is false." A lie by John Boehner, he IS the first speaker in modern and this Republican Congress id first to use the debt ceiling to hold hostage other legislation. Never before has the debt ceiling been seriously challenged or default threatened by the United States been threatened.

[RealJustme]

Never before has the debt ceiling been seriously challenged or default threatened by the United States been threatened.

Admit it Bilbo you're a closet conservative.

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[BilboBagend]

No, justupid, I am a real conservative, this is a real fiscal conservative, I believe in free market capitalism, not corporatism. Unlike you and your ilk. I am a real libertarian, not a Libertarian, I support the rights of the people and the good of the people over all else. Not corporatism (fascism) disguised as libertarianism.

[RealJustme]

No, justupid, I am a real conservative, this is a real fiscal conservative, I believe in free market capitalism, not corporatism. Unlike you and your ilk. I am a real libertarian, not a Libertarian, I support the rights of the people and the good of the people over all else. Not corporatism (fascism) disguised as libertarianism.

Yes you are a real conservative that's why you in the end exposed Obama's lies that the debt ceiling was never challenged when Obama himself, did that very thing gives you credibility. Thank you my friend, now carry on.

Carlos