[BilboBagend]

Consumer Spending Up
Business Spending Up
Housing Up

So what gives?

Government spending down 15%.

Welcome to sudden austerity.

[Leroy]

Government spending has increase every year Obama has been in office.

This last months unemployment report has more people out of work.

More people on public assistance than last month.

More violence by Muslims around the world.

More examples of Obama giving aid/support/comfort to terrorists.

More talk of giving criminals rewards for coming to this country.

More talk of increased spending.

More talk of increased taxing on the middle class.

People finding less money in their net paychecks thanks to the Democrats!.

[RealJustme]

Consumer Spending Up
Business Spending Up
Housing Up

So what gives?

Up over what?

[BilboBagend]

I have no idea where lair leroy gets his numbers. Well, honestly we all know where liar leroy gets his numbers, out of his ass. All I can say post is that which is reported.

Yes, non-military spending grew. Yes, military spending shrank a great deal. Yes, the numbers will change. No, the overall conclusions will not change. Federal spending as a percentage of GDP has been shrinking and has contributed to reducing GDP growth. A simple fact.

[BilboBagend]

http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=16258

http://johnhively.*************/2012/06 ... recession/

and many other sources.

[RealJustme]

Yes numbers are up.

The number of people no longer in the labor force continues to climb.

This number now stands at a staggering 89 million, up from 80.5 million when President Obama took office.

This means that there are currently 8.5 million more Americans not in the labor force than just four years ago.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shepp ... z2JgJx0OHf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

P.S. Gas and energy prices have doubled under Obama and health care costs are up 42% since he came into office.

[RealJustme]

Did I fail to mention that the National debt is also up under Obama? The number of Countries now a threat to the United States are also up under Obama. Yes, the numbers are up under Obama and it's not good news.

[BilboBagend]

Serious, honest people understand that change is slow and that the deficit is significantly down since the record high deficit at the end of Bush's second term. Not an ideal way to recover from a depression, but the way it had to be done with austerity morons running the show.

Debt and deficits should be attacked during times of prosperity, not run up as Bush did.

[Leroy]

Serious, honest people understand that change is slow and that the deficit is significantly down since the record high deficit at the end of Bush's second term. Not an ideal way to recover from a depression, but the way it had to be done with austerity morons running the show.

Debt and deficits should be attacked during times of prosperity, not run up as Bush did.

And people still remember when Obama said that his administration didn't understand why the things they had done had not worked - showing that they don't have a clue and don't understand.

The fact is that Obama's ideas/Administration is making things worse, not better, and now it appears he's screwed the middle class completely as ObamaCare is going to cost at least $20,000 per year.

[elklindo69]

Leroy....

A simple question, a yes or no answer would suffice.

Do you deny that the economy is gaining strength?

Is that assessment accurate or not?

1. When you look at the jobs numbers for the 4th quarter in 2012, they were 200K+ for each of the months, except for Nov, 256K, which is probably not believeable.

2. Auto sales are increasing rapidly.

3. Real estate sales are on the way up.

[Leroy]

Leroy....

A simple question, a yes or no answer would suffice.

Do you deny that the economy is gaining strength?

Is that assessment accurate or not?

1. When you look at the jobs numbers for the 4th quarter in 2012, they were 200K+ for each of the months, except for Nov, 256K, which is probably not believeable.

2. Auto sales are increasing rapidly.

3. Real estate sales are on the way up.

Elk, what I see is something you don't seem to see. After a year or more of inaction and outright dishonesty from Obama Admin on the taxes, years worth of unfriendly business practices, companies hold off to make major purchases until they knew what the tax code was going to be, with odumbass being reelected they know they can't wait any longer, that they are going to be screwed for at least four more years, so they, after he was re-elected, went ahead with their purchases.

You say that Real Estate sales are on their way UP, yet you missed how 2012 was the worst fall since 1963, and Dec 2012 was down 2.2% over that.

Car sales are up because there are fewer and fewer parts to repair cars thanks to the cash-4-clunkers program. People can't find parts to repair their cars cheaply, so they are opting for used or new cars instead.

If you look at the BLS numbers, the U6 number, which is the real unemployed rate, it's not a good picture, 14.4% still unemployed.

As for how things are really going - look at the total number of people receiving public assistance or newly on disability - that will tell you how the Jobs and Economy are really going - Obama's increased those numbers every year.

Maybe you should start working with businesses, so that you actually know how Obama is impacting business (including real-estate).