[elklindo69]

So apparently Donnie Trump and his dimutted lackeys take incompetence to the level of performance art.

Unbelievable........

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ns/682151/

[johnforbes]

No, this has already been debunked.

No war plans, and nothing classified.

Also, if "The Atlantic" (a leftist rag) thought it was serious stuff, why did they release it all?

All that aside, are there dumb people on the Worldwide Interwebs? Well, yes, Elkin is Exhibit A....

[Clownkicker]

Dimwitted johnforbes is confusing a "denial" by Hegseth with the claim being "debunked"

So what does the NSC have to say about it?
"Brian Hughes, a spokesperson for the NSC, confirmed the veracity of the group text to Goldberg: "This appears to be an authentic message chain, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain. The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials. The ongoing success of the Houthi operation demonstrates that there were no threats to troops or national security."-Newsweek

And Speaker Mike Johnson?
"House Speaker Mike Johnson to reporters on Monday after news of the messages spread: "I just was with the president in the Oval Office just now. The administration is addressing what happened. Apparently, an inadvertent phone number made it onto that thread. They are going to track that down and make sure it doesn't happen again."-Newsweek

So this has NOT been "debunked" after all. To the contrary, it is confirmed by the NSC and Speaker Johnson. Unsurprisingly, johnforbes was duped by his handlers once again.

All that aside, are there dumb people on the Worldwide Interwebs? Well, yes, johnforbes is Exhibits B(Buffoon) through G(Gullible)

[elklindo69]

Hesgeth gets caught red handed and does what? Blame the reporter? And it's something Hesgeth can relate to....driving drunk and crashing into a stop sign and then blaming the stop sign for the damages.

Hegseth went out on Signal and shared timing, military targets and weapons systems that were going to be utilized for a military attack about 30 minutes before they were going to begin. And these dimwits are going to claim that this is not sensitive information? And now Trump went on Hoax News to say Hegseth is going to review if the chat should have been classified??? Hesgeth was on the chat??? He's supposed to know right away without asking anybody else whether or not the material is classified. Not to mention the fact they shouldn't have been using this app to begin with in the first place to discuss such sensitive information.

Where's the email lady? I bet she's walking around the woods somewhere laughing her ass off.

[Clownkicker]

"Also, if "The Atlantic" (a leftist rag) thought it was serious stuff, why did they release it all?"-johnflubs

The Atlantic DIDN'T "release it all" immediately, johnny. They released enough to show that the security breach was genuine and the reporter was actually involved. It also shows he left the session as soon as he realized exactly what he was a part of and that he shouldn't be there.

The sensitive stuff about the attack's time, targets, and weaponry wasn't released until after the attack had been executed. It was necessary to prove the egregious security breach had indeed occurred. If they hadn't released the entire text thread, johnforbes would be here adamantly denying that the breach occurred....much as he is adamantly denying it now in the face of the confirmation from the NSC and Speaker Johnson.

Once again johnforbes can't be bothered to learn the facts before shooting off his mouth and making a fool of himself.
To this day johnforbes is still outraged about the Washington Post releasing The Pentagon Papers because they told him exactly how he had been used as cannon fodder by his government leaders and that his President had been lying to him all along. johnforbes would simply rather not know about his government's incompetence and lies, which is odd because today he and Musk are pretending outrage against his government's incompetence and lies with this phony(and unConstitutional) "DOGE" nonsense.

Ever the hypocrite, the true motto of johnforbes is "In Negatione Veritatis"

Predictably, johnforbes is a proud and upstanding 'member' in Trump's new
Department
Of
Undoing
Child
Healthcare and
Education

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRYWYtGQXpM

[sillydaddy]

Possession of classified information by unauthorized personnel is against the law..
Whoever is going to be charged, Goldberg should also be one of them.....

[Clownkicker]

Not to worry, silly. Trump has already assured us that none of it was classified, so prosecuting Goldberg for that now would mean Trump is a liar.

And if you still believe all the crap he says, you're as dumb as I think you are.....

[johnforbes]

Goldberg is on the horns of a dilemma.

If he felt the material was classified, why -- pray tell -- did he publish it?

Why shouldn't he be arrested as others have been?

[elklindo69]

So Johnnie, you first claimed and I quote....

"No, this has already been debunked. No war plans, and nothing classified."

Now you are telling us that this Goldberg guy should be arrested for disseminating debunked material? Not to mention the fact that Goldberg published the full texts....ONLY AFTER....Trump said that none of the messages were classified.

You keep on stepping in your steaming piles of bullshit.

[Clownkicker]

Trump's DOD (Department Of Drunks)

"Nobody was texting war plans. And that's all I have to say about that."-Pete"I fucking stepped in it now"Hegseth.

Yup, Hegseth went "Full Gump" on this scandal (except for Hegseth, life is more like a box of wine.)

Then the truth came out when the full text chain was released and slapped Hegseth in his kisser like a rotten salmon. We all now know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hegseth is a liar not to be trusted-- just like the rest of Trump's administration. Though he did successfully dupe johnforbes with that denial. (Hegseth isn't just a drunk and a spouse abuser any more. No doubt johnforbes and sillydummy are heartbroken to learn there's at least one liar in the White House they can no longer deny) (and the rest of us are just terrified that this clown is running the Pentagon. No doubt we can expect a second installment of The Pentagon Papers in our future?)

Does anyone here understand that childish emoji string from Mike Waltz? I don't speak "dimwit" Maybe "hep" johnforbes will 'hep me out'?
Why did Waltz post a fist, the U.S. flag, and the Tesla emoji?

Speaking of--- FBI director Kash Patel has opened up an investigation into anti-Musk vandalism at Tesla dealerships, calling it "domestic terrorism"--which is a serious federal crime punishable by a full pardon (if the hundreds of January 6th convictions are any indication)

^^^^^^ (johnny's "Weekend Update" for his edification)

Jan. 6th pardon update: Trump put criminals back on the street. One of the women he pardoned was recently sentenced to 10 years for killing a mother of two in a drunk driving crash. Can a drunken Hegseth disaster be far behind?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ja ... rcna190104

[elklindo69]

So a Hoax News reporter was hired to run one of the most critical agencies in the country.

What else could go wrong??????????

[divermouse]

Can you say - kakistocracy.
Ambrogio Lorenzetti's little fresco says a lot.

[Clownkicker]

Crickets from johnforbes about this inexcusable security failure. I didn't think ANYTHING could shut him up and stop his partisan gaslighting and diversions.

Meanwhile, it comes out that Waltz is using Gmail for his government work exactly how Hillary Clinton (and Dick Cheney) did that upset Republicans so much. But where's the outcry from Republicans over this? Where is the Gmail outrage from johnforbes? Again, crickets. It's terrible when a Democrat does it but just fine when Republicans do it.


"Reports of 20 Signal chats and Waltz’s Gmail mark at least four major security liabilities uncovered since Signalgate."

"In at least one instance, a senior aide to Waltz used Gmail to discuss “sensitive military positions and powerful weapons systems relating to an ongoing conflict,” according to The Washington Post, which viewed the emails. In other instances, Waltz himself used his personal email to review documents and discuss matters like his work schedule."

"On Wednesday, Politico reported that Waltz and his team “regularly” use Signal to coordinate issues relating to foreign affairs. This includes issues regarding Gaza, the Middle East, Ukraine, China, Africa, and other places — with sensitive information often shared. Citing four people who have been added to the chats, Politico said that there are at least 20 such chats."-truthout

Now we learn that this lax security is standard operating procedure in the Trump Administration. They don't even pretend to try to make things difficult for Chinese, Iranian, and Russian hackers any longer.

And the concern from Congressional Republicans so far? You guessed it: more crickets.

But I can see how difficult things are for them these days when they can't even hold town hall meetings with their constituents any longer. Apparently they just can't manage adequate security to hold the meetings.

[johnforbes]

Hegseth has carried a rifle in combat, so he was more qualified than lardbutts Austin and Milley.

Hegseth -- a hetero white male -- was not affirmative action, but earned degrees from Princeton and Harvard.

Elkin, on the other hand, has his own proud achievement of being recognized in 1942 as the Dumbest Person on the Worldwide Interwebs.

To be fair, however (and Mr Forbes always is), Elkin is NOT currently the dumbest person online because many other, and dumber, people have since logged on.

[Clownkicker]

"Hegseth -- a hetero white male -- was not affirmative action, but earned degrees from Princeton and Harvard."-johnflubs

Yes, and it just goes to show the problem with advancing privileged hetero white males over more qualified alternatives. Hegseth's ONLY qualifications for Defense Secretary was that he is a racist 'hetero' white male. Not a good reason.

It shows how an incompetent lying racist hetero white male is preferred over people with relevant expertise and a 30-year track record of serving this country, as with the firing of NSA Director General Haugh (and his deputy Wendy Noble) who actually knows what he is doing for the security of this country. And (instead of firing Hegseth or Waltz who actually failed us with their lack of security) this is done on the recommendation of a right wing nut job Laura Loomer who has no national security expertise and self-describes herself as "pro-white nationalist" and "proud Islamaphobe". Trump is now simply doing whatever these clowns tell him to do.

[johnforbes]

No, as Mr Forbes so graciously pointed out supra, Hegseth earned two Ivy League degrees, and he was not an affirmative action admission like Sotomayor or Ketanji.

Heck, Ketanji couldn't even define "woman" and claimed one would have to be a biologist to do so.

Hegseth also carried a rifle in combat.

So he is not the typical leftist lardbutt who has held that job.

[johnforbes]

I agree with the post from Mr Forbes above.

[elklindo69]

What can go wrong when a Faux News host gets hired because his only qualification is that he's a journalist who walked around a patrol base with a rifle.

And now, another signal chat from Pete with plans regarding combat operations....that included his wife on the chat???

Who are going to bring in next...Forrest Gump?

[johnforbes]

The most dangerous thing Elkin has ever done in his young life was to incur a paper cut while wrapping Christmas presents.

Hegseth earned two Ivy degrees but, as a hetero pale male, was not eligible for affirmative action/reverse racism at Harvard.

[Clownkicker]

"Can we have a candid discussion on the type of guy SECDEF Hegseth appears to be? Specifically, I’d like to lead off the conversation around his high bar being mediocrity.

Let’s start with his military career. He was an infantry platoon leader for a time. Then it appears he was tasked at the S-9 (Civil Affairs). Then it appears he volunteered to teach COIN in Kabul. Then IRR. Then ARNG in DC.

Let’s unpack this. He’s an infantry officer. But he didn’t complete Ranger School, Airborne School, or Air Assault School – and he was assigned to the 101st. Why not? I spent the vast majority of my time in the Army in the heavy side of things (1AD/1CD/18ABN), and as a medical service officer, I completed both Airborne and Air Assault. I struggled to think of a single infantry officer who I’ve met that hasn’t completed at least one of the three – and I could only think of one.

Any junior officer that’s ever served in a BCT can tell you the #1 captain, if not in command, is the AS3. The lower performing folks are put in charge of made up shops – Civil Affairs being an ‘imaginary’ shop in most battalions. Our battalion’s S-9 was staffed by a never-going-to-get-promoted fat Captain and a SFC with DUI and EO problems. Speaking to former peers, that’s the general consensus – the folks in the ‘made up’ shops are the lowest performers. Why was LT/CPT Hegseth put in that position?

Then it appears that CPT Hegseth volunteered to be an instructor of some sort at the COIN academy in Kabul where he taught one class. Again, these classes are typically taught by post-command Captains/early Majors and Master Sergeants. Why would someone with no real experience in COIN be teaching COIN at a theater level? Why would a Captain be working at theater-level if not to keep him out of trouble or because no one would pick him for their team?

Those are the things we know about. Let’s talk about some things that are missing. His highest level of leadership experience appears to be Platoon Leader. His most impactful job appears to be a battalion-level Civil Affairs OIC/AOIC position. In the civilian world, even FoxNews relegated him to the weekend morning show – the doldrums of TV ratings. He apparently parted ways with the charity(s) with which he was affiliated over some alcohol related incidents – and the charities weren’t terribly impactful either.

After reading the signal conversation, it reads like a battalion/brigade battle captain briefing his boss. The granularity of the detail and tick-tock of it make it seem like he’s trying to brief an operational leader – not a group of strategic folks. It’s no wonder there aren’t many people chiming into the conversation – they were likely ignoring it because it just wasn’t being briefed to their level. It’s almost like he was trying to get attention – fishing for compliments on DoD’s actions. I don’t know why, but it just sounds so… junior… so inexperienced.

This is a guy that reads, on paper, like he aspires to mediocrity. He’s the guy that gets 300 on the PT test, does just enough to get out of writing an OPORD, has his subordinates writing their own NCOERs/OERs, manages to always have rumors of him sleeping around but never gets caught. It’s almost like he’s the guy that likes the idea of being in the military without actually being in the military. He’s the guy that volunteers to be rear-D commander, but the decision authority makes him the rear-D XO because he can’t be trusted with responsibility. He's the guy that volunteers to be an infantry officer but doesn't want to do any of the "hard" schools. I feel like I know the personality type, because we’ve all worked with them. I think we all know a Pete Hegseth and none of us would call them "leadership material."

So what’s the deal? Does no one in DoD at the strategy-level see that this guy is… dangerously meh?"-r/Military


This is the clown johnforbes is proud to be taking orders from. This is the guy johnforbes thinks is capable of running the largest bureaucracy in our government. Some low-level guy who is the poster boy for the Peter Principle.

Sleep well, dimwit.

[johnforbes]

After lardbutts like Austin and Milley (who both richly deserved firing after the Afghanistan debacle), certainly he is qualified for the job.

After all, look at some of the folks who held it before, like Robert McNamara or Rumsfeld.

In proper context (id est, where Mr Forbes always places things), Hegseth is dandy.

[Clownkicker]

Question, johnny...

How do you live without any dignity or self-respect?

I'm serious. I couldn't do it, but you make it look so easy.

Do you ever slip on that trail of slime you leave everywhere you slither?

[johnforbes]

Mr Forbes did have a Ranger tab and was Abne, so he is certainly biased.

But the ways of reserve components are mysterious, and Mr Forbes is not up on them.

Nor does the fabulous Forbes have tattoos.

That aside, Hegseth is a hetero white male who was not affirmative action for his two Ivy degrees.

Milley and Austin were almost as overweight as Clowntoker himself, for heaven's sake!