[johnforbes]

Despite quadruple vaccination, she caught covid.

Thoughts?

To be fair, though, it really is the 84th booster shot which does the trick.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, believe it or not, parading your ignorance of vaccines does not make Harris look stupid.

Can you guess who it actually makes look stupid, johnny? I'll give you a choice:

• A. Partisan Tool johnforbes,

• B. Partisan Hack johnfuckhead

• C. Partisan Dimwit johnfibs

• D. Partisan Scumbag Dishonestjohn

[johnforbes]

Sad to say, she was quadruple vaxed and got covid.

Now, unlike the hate-drenched Left, I'm not celebrating anybody -- even a nitwit like her -- catching any disease.

But four shots were not protective, which is why the covid shots should never have been called "vaccines" in the first place because at best they offered some level of protection and hopefully lessened symptomatology.

[Clownkicker]

COVID vaccines are not to prevent someone from ever contracting the virus, dimwit.

They are to keep you from getting hospitalized and dying from the virus if you DO contract the virus.

NO ONE ever claimed the vaccines would keep you from contracting COVID. Just the opposite. From the first day they were released, the CDC and the drug companies told you that you could still catch COVID. That's why t6hey told you to continue to wear masks, especially on mass transit carriers.

The difference is, unvaccinated people contract COVID at a far greater rate, become hospitalized at a far greater rate, and die at a far greater rate. This is essentially a pandemic of the unvaccinated at this point. Anyone who, given the opportunity to be vaccinated, still refuses to get vaccinated is a fool.

And anyone (e.g. johnforbes) who persists in spreading dishonest partisan bullshit about the vaccines is responsible for the hospitalizations and deaths that result from that partisan dishonesty.

[elklindo69]

Johnnie's post is proof that conservatives are not anti-education (well they are).

But it just goes to show how they are pro-ignorance.

[johnforbes]

Clown and Elkin are both being ignorant. However, because this is part of their elusive charm, let's ignore their ignorance for now.

Until the summer of 2021, it was absolutely the position of the Administration that "fully vaccinated" people could not get covid or transmit it, and DHHS was running ads on TV nightly saying people could return to their normal lives if they just got two shots.

Then, as the summer unfolded, that dream was dashed on the rocks of reality.

[Clownkicker]

"Until the summer of 2021, it was absolutely the position of the Administration that "fully vaccinated" people could not get covid or transmit it..."-johnfibs

This is a flat out lie. It never happened. You made it up.

Stop parading your ignorance about vaccines, johnny, and stop making up stupid shit. It's getting people killed.

[johnforbes]

It is a flat truth.

DHHS was running commericals on TV saying, if you get two shots, you are protected.

Biden said that, so did Kamala, they all did.

Democrats told so many lies that they should finally own up to some of the bigger ones.

[johnforbes]

Most of the ads were akin to this -- clear suggestions that isolation could end as soon as most got 2 shots.

Instead, as 2021 unfolded, it became clear that was not true, and by autumn people were getting boosters.

[Clownkicker]

Apparently johnforbes is too stupid to understand that the video he posted didn't "say" anything. There is no dialog in it. It NEVER said that you could not catch COVID if you were vaccinated. He made it up.

It is ironically funny that a cartoon with no actual people in it is all johnforbes could come up with to support his claim that the CDC, DHS, Fauci, Biden, et al. said that if you got vaccinated you couldn't catch COVID. Of course they didn't say that. They said just the opposite; that you could still catch COVID but you would largely be protected from the need for hospitalization and death, which has been shown to be true.

But as far as the meaning of the video, it also didn't say that you couldn't catch COVID if you were vaccinated. It said that you could come out of isolation, which is true. Then it specifically, literally said to keep washing your hands, keep distance, and KEEP WEARING MASKS. Nowhere did anyone say vaccines would allow you to go without masks as johnforbes is pretending.
"Get vaccinated for COVID-19 as soon as possible-it's safe and effective. And continue to wash your hands, keep your distance, and follow local mask guidelines."-johnforbes' own video proof of his lie

The cartoon also showed this 'popping of bubbles' happened when 88% of people get vaccinated, which hasn't yet happened. (Note the apartment building with bubbles popping. Eight of the nine apartments got vaccinated. Most epidemiologists estimated that we would need more than 70% fully vaccinated to be relatively 'safe.' Currently we are at about 66% fully vaccinated. Unfortunately, thanks to idiotic Trump supporters who have militantly politicized a medical issue, we will probably never achieve that level of herd protection. And johnforbes is helping promote this stupidity by persisting in telling these clowns that it's a political issue and a matter of opinion whether you need to get vaccinated. The resulting deaths from this idiotic position are on johnforbes' hands.

The bottom line is that johnforbes made it up and he provided the evidence to prove he lied. He couldn't produce evidence of a single person in authority saying you couldn't catch COVID if you were fully vaccinated. If they had, why would they tell you you had to continue to wash your hands, keep distance, and follow mask guidelines. But thanks for making a liar of yourself again, johnny. It makes my job so much easier.

[johnforbes]

That one ad, and there were many others, clearly showed precisely that.

Other ads showed entitled minority folks playing maskless in the sunshine, and playing sports, and dancing maskless once they had that magical second covid shot.

And, to be fair, that was the belief then.

But, as the summer of 2021 unfolded, story after story emerged of "fully vaccinated" folks getting covid, so they urged boosters, and still the fully vaxed folks got covid.

Kacking Kamala got 4 covid shots and got covid, as did many others.

The real shame is that no shot will protect this forum from Clown's irrationality.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, you're contradicting your own video evidence to the contrary. It said to keep wearing masks and keeping distant.

Simply making up more non-existent videos won't make them real.

That's what the nice man in the white coat is trying to impress on you each day. All your partisan "wishing" and "wanting" doesn't make it so. reality always wins out.

[johnforbes]

It isn't my video.

It is just an example of the many, many videos which came out through the summer of 2021, and they all suggested what people believed back then -- that 2 shots were your ticket past lockdowns and masks and all.

As the summer unfolded, that turned out -- sadly -- not to be true.

[Clownkicker]

I didn't say it was your video, dimwit. I said it was your video evidence, which it is. It is the video evidence you produced to make your point, so it is your video evidence to support your claim in this discussion.

And it IS representative of the "many, many videos which came out through the summer of 2021,..." which all told you to continue to wear masks and keep distance because you could still contract and spread COVID and that the vaccines were your ticket out of lockdowns. (Which they are, as history has shown even partisan dimwits like johnforbes. There have been no lockdowns in the past year and not one video has said vaccines were a ticket out of mask wearing since they all specifically instructed you to continue to wear masks.)

Harris contracting COVID is not a "lockdown" so why are you trying to equate the two, dummy? She won't be hospitalized because she was fully vaccinated, just as you were told. Harris is simply a victim of a virus that can still infect anyone, vaccinated or not, as you have been told by Fauci, the CDC, Biden, and every other non-Trumpian source you are lying about now by claiming they said vaccinated people would be immune to COVID.

It never happened. You made it up. No one ever made such a claim. And the proof is that you could only produce a single piece of evidence that proved you were lying about it. That's the best you could do. It's the est you CAN do because you made it up.

[johnforbes]

HHS made videos, as many other places did, illustrating the thought process at that time, which was that after people got 2 covid shots they could not get or spread covid and could go live a normal life.

Fauci recently said one purpose of lockdowns was to incentivize people to get covid shots.

Problem is that, about mid-summer of 2021 it became apparently that "fully vaccinated" people were being hospitalized with covid.

[Clownkicker]

"HHS made videos, as many other places did, illustrating the thought process at that time, which was that after people got 2 covid shots they could not get or spread covid and could go live a normal life."-johnfibs

No, they didn't. You made it up.

And the fact that all you could find was a cartoon video that only proved you were wrong about this should be proof enough for anyone that it didn't happen.

Exactly what is it you think you gain by making up stupid shit this way? Nobody here believes your lies, so you're wasting your time and everyone else's.

[johnforbes]

Every TV in America was playing those videos, often from HHS, through the early summer of 2021.

They reflected what people believed back then, and what folks from Fauci to the WHO to the Surgeon General to Biden said, which was that if you were "fully vaccinated" you could then go about your life almost normally, that you would be very unlikely to get or spread covid.

But, as the summer of 2021 unfolded, alarming reports began to filter into the media that a big chunk of hospital admissions were from people who had already had 2 covid shots.

Boosters were then implemented to lessen that, but by the end of 2021 reports began to come in that triple vaxed people had gotten covid.

People like Kamala who were quadruple vaxed began to get covid in 2022, so what happened was this:

Scientists and politicians felt that 2 shots would do it, but sadly they were wrong -- probably because this whole process was rushed by Operation Warp Speed by Repubs and Dems.

Sorry, them's the facts and nothing but the facts.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, more made up partisan bullshit on your part is not evidence of anything.

What is it about your mental illness that makes you think the things you make up are real? What do your doctors say?

All you have to do is produce just one of these allegedly myriad videos that you claim say the vaccines will stop people from contracting COVID and you will shut my mouth about it once and for all.

The more likely scenario is you will finally have to realize that you only swallowed partisan bullshit from your handlers all this time, and that what you believed you heard was not what they said at all. You'll become aware of the mindset of your typical Trump supporter who unquestioningly believes anything they hear from their handlers without any evidence being required to convince them.

[johnforbes]

What do doctors say? You mean after they marvel at my tan ad taut, lean and lithe physique?

But let us not digress.

Every TV in America was playing those videos, often from HHS, through the early summer of 2021.

They reflected what people believed back then, and what folks from Fauci to the WHO to the Surgeon General to Biden said, which was that if you were "fully vaccinated" you could then go about your life almost normally, that you would be very unlikely to get or spread covid.

But, as the summer of 2021 unfolded, alarming reports began to filter into the media that a big chunk of hospital admissions were from people who had already had 2 covid shots.

Boosters were then implemented to lessen that, but by the end of 2021 reports began to come in that triple vaxed people had gotten covid.

People like Kamala who were quadruple vaxed began to get covid in 2022, so what happened was this:

Scientists and politicians felt that 2 shots would do it, but sadly they were wrong -- probably because this whole process was rushed by Operation Warp Speed by Repubs and Dems.

Sorry, them's the facts and nothing but the facts.

[Clownkicker]

Every TV in America wasn't playing those videos saying vaccines made you immune to contracting COVID because they don't exist. You made it up.

"They reflected what people believed back then, and what folks from Fauci to the WHO to the Surgeon General to Biden said, which was that if you were "fully vaccinated" you could then go about your life almost normally, that you would be very unlikely to get or spread covid."-johnforbes

What johnforbes left out of that characterization was that this would be true if everyone continued to mask and keep distance. But it is good that johnforbes admits that he lied about Fauci et al. saying that you could not catch COVID if you were fully vaccinated when Fauci said just the opposite, that people could still catch COVID, though they would not be hospitalized or die in great numbers, which is true and born out by the numbers.

The scenario of 'going about almost normally' also hinged on everyone getting vaccinated, which Trump supporters refuse to do in large numbers, leaving the country needlessly vulnerable, which is also true and born out by the numbers.

"But, as the summer of 2021 unfolded, alarming reports began to filter into the media that a big chunk of hospital admissions were from people who had already had 2 covid shots."-Dishonestjohn

This is a dishonest partisan characterization of an expected and not-at-all-alarming occurrence of 15% of hospitalizations being vaccinated people and the other 85% were the unvaccinated, which was the real alarming number because there was no longer a reason for still being unvaccinated.

The vaccines were never claimed to be more than 95% efficacy (which is GREAT by vaccine standards) The J&J was in the realm of 86% efficacy, which is still good, but leaves a lot of people vulnerable, though not nearly as many vulnerable as being a Repubican does. This fact alone should tell liar johnforbes that no one was "alarmed" that some fully vaccinated people contracted COVID--just as the scientific studies had told us they would. That the vaccines performed as expected neither alarmed nor surprised anyone except the highly partisan and dishonest Trump supporters.

"People like Kamala who were quadruple vaxed began to get covid in 2022..."-Dishonestjohn

Yes, people like Kamala got asymptomatic COVID, just as the vaccine studies told us all that she could. Harris is thankful that she wasn't one of the nutjob Republicans who refused the vaccines and got sick, were hospitalized, and died.

In the U.S. this is now a pandemic of the unvaccinated. The videos you claimed existed don't exist, so you have come around to the truth that no one ever said vaccinated people couldn't contract COVID. The very vaccine trials by the drug companies told us all this wasn't the case. Why johnforbes doesn't listen to vaccine producers' trial results is beyond me. Maybe someday he will learn to follow the science.

Sorry, them's the facts and nothing but the facts.

But you knew that and simply refused to include them in your dishonest and misleading characterization of the public health videos that were actually shown.

[johnforbes]

Yep, it is true that every TV in America was playing those videos, often from HHS, through the early summer of 2021.

They depicted dancing minorities, and other such folk dancing in the sunshine, enjoyed maskless freedom as in the ancient times before March 2020.

They reflected what people believed back then, and what folks from Fauci to the WHO to the Surgeon General to Biden said, which was that if you were "fully vaccinated" you could then go about your life almost normally, that you would be very unlikely to get or spread covid.

But, as the summer of 2021 unfolded, alarming reports began to filter into the media that a big chunk of hospital admissions were from people who had already had 2 covid shots.

Boosters were then implemented to lessen that, but by the end of 2021 reports began to come in that triple vaxed people had gotten covid.

People like Kamala who were quadruple vaxed began to get covid in 2022, so what happened was this:

Scientists and politicians felt that 2 shots would do it, but sadly they were wrong -- probably because this whole process was rushed by Operation Warp Speed by Repubs and Dems.

Sorry, them's the facts and nothing but the facts.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^^^^^ johnforbes is having another seizure where his brain stops functioning and he can only mindlessly regurgitate the last thing he said.

[johnforbes]

No, every morning my intrepid staffers read everything on the Worldwide Interwebs, then they analyze and dissect it.

After that, they seek pearls of wisdom.

It was that process which led them -- inexorably -- to the prior posting from Mr. Forbes, which fairly shimmered with scholarly rigor and deep insight.

[Clownkicker]

So you're saying they realize you are incapable of making a cogent post that actually responds to the points raised by another poster, so they merely regurgitate your past lies in order to consistently represent your true level of dishonest partisan thought?

Yeah, I can see that.

[johnforbes]

The staff of Mr Forbes is as optimistic and positive in outlook as he is.

Every morning, with the breaking dawn, his intrepid staffers read everything on the Worldwide Interwebs, then they analyze and dissect it.

After that, they seek pearls of wisdom.

It was that process which led them -- inexorably -- to the prior posting from Mr. Forbes, which fairly shimmered with scholarly rigor and deep insight.

[Clownkicker]

It's always easy to see when johnforbes has made a fool of himself.

Instead of addressing the irrefutable points in someone's posts, he resorts to his asinine soft shoe/buck-and-wing routine hoping no one will notice he made himself look like an idiot.

Believe me, johnny, everyone noticed.

[johnforbes]

It is always easy to see when Clown makes a fool of himself -- i.e., whenever he posts.

As to Mr Forbes, he is as optimistic and positive in outlook as ever.

Every morning, his diligent staffers search every nook and cranny of the Worldwide Interwebs, then they analyze and dissect .

After that, they seek pearls of wisdom.

It was that process which led them -- inexorably -- to the prior posting from Mr. Forbes, which fairly shimmered with scholarly rigor and deep insight.