[johnforbes]

The documents make it clear that assertions by the NIH Director, Francis Collins, and the NIAID Director, Anthony Fauci, that the NIH did not support gain-of-function research or potential pandemic pathogen enhancement at WIV are untruthful.

“We applied for grants to conduct research,” Robert Kessler, communications manager at EcoHealth Alliance, said. “The relevant agencies deemed that to be important research, and thus funded it. So I don’t know that there’s a whole lot to say.”

[Clownkicker]

Johnforbes, you do not know what you are talking about, quite frankly.

And I want to say that officially.

[johnforbes]

It isn't me saying anything.

There are videos showing the bats they experimented with at Wuhan, and they show workers wearing only sugical gloves feeding them worms.

Alina Chan has said even the folks at Wuhan were asking in memos what would happen if they got bitten.l

WHO's chief researcher on covid said Patient Zero was almost certainly a Wuhan lab employee.

Fauci has been trying to say increasing the power of a virus was not gain of function research, but it would appear he was just telling a lie to try to salvage his own reputation.

What the research we funded, and Daszak sent the funds to Wuhan for, was increasing the strength and transmission to humans of a virus -- experimenting with gain of function.

Semantics won't ride to Fauci's rescue here.

[elklindo69]

John Forbes is a textbook example of a Lack of Function.

And we don't need any research to know that as Trump departed....the stupid remained

[johnforbes]

Actually, young master Elkin, I'm an example of more function than your feeble cognitive endowment will grasp.

Fauci lied about masks, lied about herd immunity percentages, and clearly lied about funding gain of function research via Daszak and EcoHealth Alliance, which handed at least 7 million to the bad lady doctor in Wuhan.

There, bats were fed by hand (see the videos) and workers were concerned about being bitten, as leftist Alina Chan at Harvard noted recently.

[elklindo69]

Robert Kessler, communications manager for EcoHealth Alliance, denied that the work on the humanized mice met the definition of gain-of-function research.

Johnnie.......

You can't even get your bullshit straight.

LOL

[johnforbes]

Fauci was trying the semantics game too, but it won't wash.

Increasing function IS gain of function research, and they availed themselves of the footnote on page 2 of the moratorium on (yes) gain of function research to do this.

You do not need a footnoted waiver to do gain of function research UNLESS you are doing that, so it is back to the drawing board for leftist spindoctors here.

[divermouse]

how about this for a change.. who gives a fuck which way the finger points for sparkle points. stop spreading false half wit ass gas, and encourage the sheep of orange and tuskegee fear-followers, to get vaccinated so we can ALL get back to LIFE! dick-weed.

[Clownkicker]

Yes, johnforbes will continue to do everything he can to desperately try to point fingers elsewhere to distract from Trump's and Republicans' incompetence in their response to the COVID pandemic; whose politicized responses unnecessarily killed tens of thousands of Americans and is still killing Americans.

Unfortunately, the U.S. death rate from COVID is just as bad as Sweden's because they also refused to put lockdowns in place.

We could have been like Denmark or Finland or Australia, but no, not with Trump and Republicans continually politicizing and fighting reasonable pandemic responses; recommended responses that are undisputed among epidemiologists.

But dimwit johnny and Republicans keep pretending they know more about it.

[johnforbes]

My trusty staff members, who work diligently 8 days of every week, have informed me that Mr. Forbes is thus far the sole forum member to post mortality rates.

They show, for people under 70 and without serious co-morbid conditions, rates equal to or below that of ordinary flu.

Follow the science!

[Clownkicker]

Then allow me to post some official mortality numbers, johnny:


COVID deaths in less than one year in U.S.-- 660,000

Ordinary Flu deaths in one year in U.S.-- 50,000-70,000

That is an annual COVID death rate over ten time higher than flu, dimwit.

Follow the science!

[divermouse]

and yet i personally know four people dead 47-72 (including a world adventurer), 23 year old soccer player who can no longer walk a flight of stairs, 34yo kidneys destroyed, numerous exhausted, brain fogs months on. 87yo barley knew he had it, an' all in between... never knew anyone with similar results from the flu.

just talked to a florida office owner today / Quote: "lost three employees last 10 days: 47yo 3 weeks dead, 27yo 7 days dead, did not get the third death details. but she swore off the vaccine as big pharma. ivermectin is all you need if you get it. no more than the flu", un fuckin' quote.

masks deliver 90%+ protection but sparkle pony patriot's kept up the mantra, actively delivering harmful - deadly information. all while mounting an insurrection. we have actual video footage of them and it's ring leader, egging both on for the sparkle pony's misguided personal frustration of whatever prickly 70% false point their told to object to.

the mantra?
Youuuuuuuuuu, yuuuuuuuuuuuu fuck youuuu. ___
or the another favorite:
Mmeeeeeeeeeeee, Mmeeeeeeeeeee, just mmEEEEEEEEEe___

... and who gets fucked? 90% of everybody.

how about unfucking yourself. we can point fingers later.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, a few small questions for your ignorant (wait)staff that are constantly feeding you piles of partisan shit--

If, as you claim, COVID is no more serious than, and comparable to, the flu, then why are some hospitals in America now in "crisis" mode and rationing medical care? Why can it can take 12 hours to get admitted to a hospital in some cities? Why are medical staff burning out and quitting? Why are coroners and medical examiners buying or renting refrigerated containers to stack bodies in? Why are funeral homes storing bodies in containers because they can't burn or bury them as fast as they're coming in? Why are many COVID victims living with permanent liver, heart, and lung damage, as well as brain fog and chronic fatigue? Why has COVID killed at an annual rate more than five times higher than a typical flu outbreak? Why have 1400 schools closed a week after opening?

We've never heard of any of these things in our lifetimes. So explain how COVID is comparable to the flu.

And while you're at it, please tell us what exotic condiments you put on your daily shit consumption to make it so delicious that you keep wolfing down huge piles of it while wearing that doofy shit-eating grin.

[johnforbes]

Clown is ignoring the science of co-morbidity.

The CDC has found that the typical covid death was an elderly person with an average of 2.4 other comorbid conditions.

Saying there are x number of covid deaths, as Clown just said, is telling a lie.

[Clownkicker]

Once again johnforbes demonstrates that he doesn't grasp the scientific medical term "underlying cause of death" as if flu doesn't also kill people with comorbid conditions, and those deaths are also called flu deaths.

Maybe what johnforbes is trying to tell us is that flu is benign and kills almost nobody at all....?

[johnforbes]

Of course, the flu does that, and so do any number of other conditions.

A person who is exogenously obese, like Clowntoker, should know that is a underlying risk as well.

So is his cirrhotic liver.

[Clownkicker]

Yes, and COVID killed 650,000 Americans, regardless of their condition, just as the flu typically kills 50-70,000 a year regardless of their condition.

It's a wonder johnforbes is still alive given his morbid condition of an immense exogenously obese head.

[johnforbes]

Per the CDC, there were an average of 2.4 co-morbid conditions with the typical covid death, and it is no secret that the deaths involved mostly people over 65 who were obese and diabetic.

So claiming that covid killed 600k is fundamentally dishonest.

[Clownkicker]

All of those people had the conditions they had, dimwit, same as all flu victims had the conditions they had. And johnforbes has been here attributing all those deaths to flu.

But now johnforbes is claiming that 600,000 excess deaths in 2020 were not killed by COVID but were actually killed by the same diabetes and obesity that didn't kill any of them the year before or the year before that, but then suddenly killed 600,00 additional people all in a single year.

Of course, diabetes and obesity simply don't kill in that manner, and johnforbes knows it, but he lies about it anyway.

johnfibs is actually here claiming that COVID hardly killed anyone in 2020, but diabetes and obesity miraculously had some sort of 'increase of function' evolution thing going on that suddenly killed an additional 600,000 people that year.

That's how galacticly stupid he is. He's so incredibly stupid he just can't grasp the term "underlying cause of death."

[johnforbes]

Oh heck no, I wouldn't ascribe all covid deaths to the flu.

Or vice versa, as has been done for the past 18 mos.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, you are here claiming that diabetes and obesity (not COVID) suddenly killed 600,000 more people in a single year than they ever have in decades before.

That's just undeniably stupid. Even you couldn't defend that moronic assertion once I made you see how stupid it is.

And that's why you resorted to your doofy shit-eating-grin shuck and jive routine again.