[johnforbes]

Prior year versus last winter, so was the dropdown from 39 million cases to 2 thousand cases due to masks and distance?

Or were flu cases recorded as covid?

[Clownkicker]

No, dummy. When people got sick they were tested, and the test determined they had COVID.


Why are the simplest things beyond your ability to grasp, johnny? You immediately latch onto anything that you think you can spin into a partisan issue. You could have looked into it but instead you start a thread without any evidence whatsoever either way and pretend to have a serious question. But you don't. The sole purpose of your thread is to cause greater partisan division.

Follow the science, johnny, not your handlers just because they lead you around by the nose. They are not your friends. They are trying to foment chaos and division at all times. It's the only way they can win. Stop being a tool.

[sillydaddy]

Notice the media, in their news programs, shows maps of the states where the virus is spiking..
All colored RED..!

[Clownkicker]

You find that funny, silly? Really?

Those are Trump states and Trump is responsible for all the sickness and death there at this point. It is happening to Republican states-- YOUR PEOPLE, silly, and you're laughing about it.

All Trump needs to do is publicly tell his malleable drones to get the vaccines and this would have been prevented.

[johnforbes]

Follow the money.

Nobody got unemployment, or stimulus, for another season of 39 million flu cases.

Instead, we went from 39 million flu cases down to 2,100 flu cases.

Come on, nobody believes that.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, the COVID numbers around the world are verified cases. The count is way under-counted because there are no tests in many areas.

All any intelligent person needs to do is look at the excess mortality numbers. The bulk of any increase in the usual number of deaths in any country is from the pandemic. And those numbers already included any flu going around.


Why you keep pretending that a global pandemic is a Democrat scam is beyond moronic. You actually believe the Democrats are so powerful that they got China, Russia, India, South Africa, Australia, Germany, and virtually every other country in the world to fake a pandemic just so that Trump could send out relief checks.

Come on, nobody believes that.

Do you ever listen to the idiotic stupid shit that runs out of your mouth, johnny?

[johnforbes]

Actually, they are not all verified at all.

Tons of death certificates doubtless have covid listed as one cause without having done a covid test.

That is just one example.

Follow the money and you'll see why flu reports went from 39 million one year down to the absurd figure of 2000.

[Clownkicker]

"Follow the money and you'll see why flu reports went from 39 million one year down to the absurd figure of 2000."-johnfoibles

Okay, johnny, go ahead, follow the money.

Give us a rundown of your brilliant insights into the fake global COVID scam, who is paying for it, and who is unethically profiting from this truly dastardly hoax.

[johnforbes]

Who paid for the "free" vaccine shots?

Taxpayers!

[Clownkicker]

I should hope so, dimwit. The vaccines are in the interest of ALL Americans (and the entire world) and thus should be freely given to all Americans (and the entire world.) What's your point?

To your chagrin, you discovered that the government actually promoted the general welfare? Seriously, THAT'S what you find criminal about the vaccines? That they dared to live up to the values articulated in the Preamble of the Constitution?

Shocking!

So is that the total depth of your brilliant insights into the unsavory vaccine money trail, johnny? You've sunk to criticizing Trump for his mistake of giving money to drug companies to pay for Operation Warp Speed? The very thing you have been praising him for up till now?

You really shouldn't hold Trump in contempt for that one mistake of spending money to protect every American, johnny. it was the right thing to do. If you are going to criticize him, then criticize him for failing to have a plan to distribute the vaccines once they were delivered. Now that was a scandal.

But fortunately we elected Biden to make up for that failure on Trump's part. Biden did quite well up until he hit the brink wall of Republican thick skulls and their selfish refusal to get vaccinated to protect their fellow Americans.

[johnforbes]

No, you've missed the point for the millionth time.

[Clownkicker]

No, you simply failed to make any point for the millionth time.

So you aren't criticizing Trump for spending taxpayer money on vaccines for the benefit of all Americans? There was nothing wrong with taxpayers paying for Operation Warp Speed?

Then why are you upset about taxpayers paying for the vaccines produced by Operation Warp Speed?

[johnforbes]

My desire, as ever, is merely that the scientific truth be portrayed.

39 million flu cases one year, down to 2000 the next.

Come on, nobody would buy that.

[Clownkicker]

"39 million flu cases one year, down to 2000 the next.
Come on, nobody would buy that."-johnflubs

johnny, you are on record here as having no problem supporting Trump when he said COVID would just "miraculously" disappear. You have reiterated that belief several times, but now you suddenly have a problem believing that the flu miraculously disappeared last year?

Okay, then make your case for why Trump was right last year but the CDC is wrong this year. Remember, your ignorant partisan innuendo is not scientific evidence.


Give us something, ANYTHING, besides just more of your whining.

[johnforbes]

Obviously, no president should say that covid will miraculously disappear one day.

But, of course, that is true.

It will disappear one fine day, just like SARS and all the rest.

But will Clown's infectious posts ever disappear?

[Clownkicker]

"It will disappear one fine day, just like SARS and all the rest."-johnfoibles

Then why do you find it so hard to believe that the flu disappeared last year, dummy. You quickly 'bought into' Trump's silly assertion that COVID would "miraculously" disappear. And again you just reiterated that all these things do disappear. Then you say "nobody would buy that" about the flu.

So which is it, johnny? Can these things disappear or can't they? Why are you so willing to "buy" what an ignorant non-scientist like Trump said but you insist "nobody would buy" what the epidemiological experts say?


"But will Clown's infectious posts ever disappear?"-johnflubs

If only my posts WERE infectious. There would be a whole lot fewer irrational partisan dimwits in the world.

[johnforbes]

Because the flu is not one entity, but many varities.

Trump said covid-19 would disappear one day like magic, and that will be true.

Should he have said that and given brain-dead leftists more argumentative fodder?

No.

[Clownkicker]

"Because the flu is not one entity, but many varities."-johnflubs

And COVID is not one entity either, but many varieties as well, dummy. The Delta variant has become just the latest of several COVID problems we face globally. And there will likely be others because Trump and Republicans refused to stop COVID cold when we had the chance. They are STILL refusing to stop it, encouraging their followers to refuse to get vaccinated and wear masks.

But you are still insisting that COVID can and will disappear when the common cold hasn't disappeared in centuries, despite the fact that they are all coronaviruses. It's beyond absurd. It's "johnforbsian" in its stupidity.

How do you live with yourself, johnny, cultivating such obvious cognitive dissonance and dishonesty in your intellect?

[johnforbes]

Sure, covid is, which is why I specified above covid-19.

Will that vanish one fine day?

Yep.

[Clownkicker]

Sure, johnny, THAT'S what Trump meant. He's so well known for the hair-splitting subtlety of his intellect.

But this does explain why you like him so much, against all reason. You believe he's just like you even though he's nothing like you (beyond his sociopathic narcissism, of course.) Trump never cares whether or not he's technically correct when he knows he's wrong, the way you do, johnny. He only cares if enough people believe him when he lies. See the difference? But I admit, he exhibits the same desperation for unearned respect as you do.

That's the hallmark of a successful politician; a corrupt billionaire can convince dimwits like you that he's a "man of the people" when he has never in his entire privileged life given a damn about anyone but himself. When you stop being useful to him, he'll throw you under the bus the same way he threw hundreds of his other "best people" under the bus when he was through with them.

A partisan fool like you won't even see it coming. I can already see the predictable look of dumbfounded disbelief on your face. It will make you look even more of a doofus than you already do, if that's possible.


Regardless, it is unlikely COVID will ever just miraculously disappear and you know it. And I know you know it. You slithered out from under your partisan rock the first chance you had to get the first available vaccine. But that won't stop you from continuing to support a man who is getting thousands of people killed needlessly. Those lives are on YOUR hands now, johnny.

[johnforbes]

Well, I wouldn't be so hasty about dismissing Trump's intellect.

He has the degree from Wharton, and the billionaire status, and he became president.

Was Jimmy Carter a great orator, or stumbling LBJ speaking of iffy education?

Heck, Calvin Coolidge was a masterful public speaker compared to stumbling Joe.

[elklindo69]

As the delta variant rages through the unvaccinated in red states, Trump now demands glorious praise for the vaccine he now demands you don't take is all the proof you need that the family of squirrels living inside of his skull have finally chewed through the wiring and it's all short circuiting.

[johnforbes]

Let me go on record:

I have always had respect for Elkin's acumen and education.

He was able to amass a net worth of over 1000 USD, and his degree from the Lower Bugtussle Academy of Canine Grooming speaks for itself hanging over his fireplace.