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#128465
"Dems should also want to fix this total mess of mail ballots."-johnfibs

johnny, you've been reading too much partisan bullshit instead of news. There is no significant "mess" with mail in ballots.
Hell, it's how Trump has voted for years, but all of a sudden you think his vote is a "mess". I don't think he woulod be too happy to hear you say that.


"In quick succession, Mr. Trump was handed defeats in Pennsylvania, Arizona and Michigan, where a state judge in Detroit rejected an unusual Republican attempt to halt the certification of the vote in Wayne County pending an audit of the count.

The legal losses came as Mr. Biden was declared the victor in Georgia and a day after an agency in the president’s own Department of Homeland Security flatly contradicted him by declaring that the election “was the most secure in American history” and that “there is no evidence” any voting systems malfunctioned.

On Friday, 16 federal prosecutors who had been assigned to monitor the election also directly debunked claims of widespread fraud, saying in a letter to Attorney General William P. Barr that there was no evidence of substantial irregularities."

"A senior federal election security official who was appointed by President Donald Trump has blasted the President's false post-election claims, calling them "baffling", "laughable" and "insulting".

Asked in an interview what he would say to Trump about the election, Ben Hovland said "these conspiracy theories that are flying around have consequences."

Hovland runs the Election Assistance Commission which, in part, tests and certifies voting machines. He was nominated by President Donald Trump last year and unanimously confirmed by the Senate. He works closely with other federal agencies that oversee elections, like the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.

"At a minimum, it's insulting to the professionals that run our elections and hopefully that's the worst that comes of it," Hovland told MIT Technology Review. "Our people, they're doing their jobs but they don't feel safe doing it. That is a tragedy. That is awful. These are public servants. This isn't a job you do for glory or to get rich.""

"Additionally on Thursday the Department of Homeland Security along with a group of national, state and private election officials said in a joint statement that there is no evidence of any voting system being compromised in the 2020 election despite Trump's deluge of election fraud conspiracies, and called the election "the most secure in American history.""


So it looks like there will be no "nightmare scenario" to face. That should make you very happy, right johnny?
#128466
Of course, any Dem judge would say that.

And, even if the judge happened to be neutral, any fraud would also have to be evaluated in the context of whether it was large enough to affect the outcome.

The RNC has over ELEVEN THOUSAND reports of fraud or misconduct, and there are entire binders of affidavits showing problems.

Sure, Democrats want to pretend things were all fairly done, but Philly and DC and Detroit have a long tradition of vote fraud.

Although I do want to thank Clown for his kind participation, he is -- as usual -- quite wrong.
#128475
"Although I do want to thank Clown for his kind participation, he is -- as usual -- quite wrong."-johnfibs

How can I possibly be the one who is wrong, johnny? I didn't make the claims. Trump appointees made the claims, dimwit. I only said what they said via quotations. (Not my words, dummy.)

What is it with Trump supporters? They don't believe anyone, particularly Republicans. johnny doesn't even believe Trump himself when he said he, not Democrats, shut down the economy. He hears it from Trump's lips and then tells me I'm the one who is wrong.

Trump supporters don't believe Trump-appointed judges. They don't believe Trump-appointed government officials. They don't believe Trump-appointed investigators. They don't believe Republican secretaries of state. They don't believe Trump's many lawyers who bail on the myriad lawsuits he hired them to file because they were frivolous.

What is wrong with guys like johnforbes? They post no evidence to back the idiocies they post. The only people they believe are internet conspiracy theorists who have no evidence to support their nutjob theories.
#128584
johnny, you have yet to demonstrate that I have been wrong about anything, ever. One would think that if I were wrong repeatedly you would have proven it with some evidence or authoritative quotations or SOMETHING.

I'm still waiting for your overwhelming evidence about voter fraud or ballot fraud you promised to provide in order to humiliate me.

But you won't do that because you can't do that.

It's just one more example of how I was right as always and you're merely a hypocritical partisan windbag.
#128598
He does it because he's using money scammed from his dimwitted supporters.

Spending their money on a fool's errand means nothing to Trump. That's what suckers' money is for.


Trump is using the 'recount' scam as a last ditch effort to collect millions of dollars from all the gullible suckers who still support him for his personal use. Any contribution to his election battle fund of less than $8,000 goes to him personally or to the RNC. It will not be used toward costs of his recount scam. He said so in the fine print.

So only the big donors get what they paid for. The rest of the dimwits like RealTool and johnfbres have their contributions taken by Trump as he slinks away from the White House in January.

Fun fact: Yesterday Trump had nothing on his public schedule. Trump supporters whine about Biden hiding out in his basement, but Trump is ACTUALLY hiding out in the White House. We are heading into one of the most deadly times in our history and the President can't be bothered to stick his head out the door to reassure the public and has nothing to say to the American people on any subject. (He also hasn't answered any questions from news organizations in over a week.)

We have actually arrived at the Nightmare Scenario that johnforbes warned us about.
#128604
About the nut job news conference held by Rudolph W. Giuliani --

“That press conference was the most dangerous 1hr 45 minutes of television in American history,” Christopher Krebs, who was fired Tuesday night by Mr. Trump as the director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency of the Department of Homeland Security, tweeted Thursday afternoon.

“And possibly the craziest,” he went on. “If you don’t know what I’m talking about, you’re lucky.”

Mr. Krebs has often noted that the purpose of a reliable election system is to convince those who lost elections that they have, indeed, lost.

Even some of Mr. Trump’s onetime enthusiasts and former top aides have abandoned him on his claims, often with sarcastic derision. “Their basic argument is this was a conspiracy so vast and so successful that there’s no evidence of it,” said John R. Bolton, Mr. Trump’s third national security adviser, who was ousted last year.

“Now if that’s true, I really want to know who the people are who pulled this off,” he said on Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.” “We need to hire them at the C.I.A.”-New York Times

There it is in a nut shell by someone johnforbes insanely calls a "RINO". And yet johnforbes believes every word of this conspiracy theory. Talk about yer "Nightmare Scenario".

We have met the enemy and he is johnforbes, the grotesquely gullible.

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