[snakeoil]

https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2020/0 ... ef=d-river

Well written article on the corona-19 virus.

[johnforbes]

Snake, Frum is an extremely well known Trump hater.

You may be too naïve to know that, but surely you must be aware that a biased writer may ascribe fault to Obama or Cuomo or deBlasio for their own failings?

Snake, do you recognize that most people confront a crisis slowly?

If you don't, you may want to start reading about how slowly almost all leaders confronted almost any historical crisis you can name.

Did world leaders, for example, instantly spot the threat of Hitler or did it take years after he was legally elected?

[Clownkicker]

Once again johnforbes can't refute anything said in the article, so he resorts to his usual ad hominem attack instead.

See the difference between us, johnny? I destroy your posts with facts and reason, and then I call you an ignoramus. All you can do is attack the messenger because you can't refute what he has to say.

[johnforbes]

No, what I said was just the truth.

Frum hates Trump.

Sure, Snake may be naïve and uninformed, but everybody inside the Beltway knows about Frum.

[Clownkicker]

Dimwit, even if everything you said about Frum were true, you still didn't refute a thing he said in the article. That is the definition of an ad hominem argument, you dishonest scumbag.

You didn't refute anything he said because you couldn't refute anything he said. And thus you conceded the truth of what he said.

That's the trouble with the truth--you can never refute it. So you attack the messenger because you are intellectually impotent.

[johnforbes]

Please.

Every day, I take 50 to 60 points of my IQ and put it aside.

After doing that, I am able to answer some of Clown's demented postings.

But no amount of dumbing down is sufficient to cope with the whole of Clown's idiocy.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, clearly demonstrating your intellectual impotence does nothing to support your claim of not being intellectually impotent.

You still have not addressed a single point in the article. You only attacked the author and then attacked me for pointing it out.

This is because you are utterly incapable of mounting an argument against the points in the article, as well as being incapable of mounting an argument against me pointing out your intellectual impotence.

This is because you are intellectually impotent. Q.E.D.


Prove me wrong, johnny. Explain how any point made in the article is factually wrong.

"Bahk, bahk, bahk"-johnforbes

[johnforbes]

Frum falls into the ORANGE MAN BAD camp.

So does Snake.

So does Clown.

QED

[sillydaddy]

"... Governments often fail. From Pearl Harbor to the financial crisis of 2008, you can itemize a long list of missed warnings and overlooked dangers that cost lives and inflicted hardship. But in the past, Americans could at least expect public spirit and civic concern from their presidents...." ``` Frum

In other words the only thing Frum comes up with is...the same thing every other liberal wants, Trump not to be President..!

You're right Clown, one can't refute that Frum is a liberal asshole..!

I gonna vote for Trump...just to give mother fuckers like this...an ulcer..!

[elklindo69]

I'm pretty sure that the email lady wouldn't have fucked up as colossally bad as Trump did.

[johnforbes]

The only person who messed up was Fauci.

Politicians are always slow to react to a medical crisis, and were it otherwise Obama would not have ignored 200,000 dead Americans from opioids.

[snakeoil]

John, I freely admit that I am totally opposed to what's-His-Name. This is a man totally unfit for the position he is in. He is a perfect example of the "Peter Principle."

One of his main goals is to garner all of the praise for himself that he can. He refuses to read anything required to do his job. His 4000 lies while in office have been documented by several sources. He has little knowledge of how the government or the world works, Emotions, not facts, rule his decisions. His method of dealing with our allies is to bully them into submission to his way of thinking.

He is immoral, crude, has a history of stiffing his contractors, has little regard for women, lies when lies are not required, is money-driven, and worships authoritarian rulers around the world.

If you would check his voter registration you would find out that he was an Independent, then a Democrat, then an Independent again, then a Democrat again then he discovered that he is really a Republican.

His management of this pandemic has been extremely flawed and has been well documented. He was even briefed on the possibility of a pandemic before he took office.

John, the whole world is laughing at us which is dangerous to our national security.

[sillydaddy]

I'm pretty sure that the email lady wouldn't have fucked up as colossally bad as Trump did.

Speaking of which...where is Hillary hiding these days?

[Clownkicker]

You (or at least your handlers) should know that, sillydummy.

You clowns are the ones convinced this whole pandemic is a Democrat hoax with the purpose of getting Hillary to get the Democrat nomination for President.

If you don't know where she is, ask your handlers for the latest on your partisan conspiracy theory.

[sillydaddy]

Clown's been smelling his own farts again..!

[Clownkicker]

sillydummy is a senile old fart again..!

[johnforbes]

Snake, so your objection to Trump is that he is "immoral" and "crude"?

Then surely you must have liked suave Rhodes Scholar Bill Clinton getting oral sex in the Oval Office from an intern the same age as his daughter, then claiming oral sex was not sex, and then telling lies under oath to a federal judge?

As to our national security, Snake, what do you care about that?

Some of us have actually been the national security at the tip of the spear.

[snakeoil]

John, I didn't vote for Clinton either time he ran. As to his morals, he lied under oath and he lied to the American people as well as getting a blowjob in the Oval Office. Total scum.

As to your statement about your military service, I also have a DD214.

[johnforbes]

Fair enough if you want to be evenhanded.

Do I think any American citizen should look to a president as some sort of moral leader?

FDR kept a mistress. So did Ike. So did Harding and others.

JFK banged every available gal.

LBJ sent many of us to war, but his wife was too lazy to even attend the dedication of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.

So was Reagan, so was Ford, so was Carter, so were they all but John Warner and Mac Mathias (one Repub, one Dem).

[Clownkicker]

"Snake, so your objection to Trump is that he is "immoral" and "crude"?"-johnflubs

snakeoil listed a whole string of objections to Trump, johnny. Why do you dishonestly try to limit his objections to just the two that you think you can argue against.

Why don't you go back to his post and address some of his other complaints? Why? Because you can't. You're intellectually impotent.

Ad hominem argument is your only recourse. Unfortunately it only works on the dimwitted, like RealTool and sillydummy.

[johnforbes]

No, that's not the reason.

Snake doesn't like Trump and that certainly falls within his right as a citizen.

I pointed out the obvious flaw in seeking to transform some politician into a moral guide, then moved on to the many other demands upon my time.

It isn't my role in life to counsel Snake on why he might be unhappy today.

[Clownkicker]

No, johnny, morality was only a minor aspect of his larger complaints. Trump's immorality is not THE reason snakeoil doesn't like Trump. He only listed it as one more aspect of Trump that makes him unfit.

Also, your "obvious flaw in seeking to transform some politician into a moral guide" is not an obvious flaw at all.

Once we learned that LBJ was sending soldiers to die for no military reason but only partisan political reasons, then it is absolutely right to condemn his policies, as America did. As to mistresses, nobody cares. They do not make someone "moral" or "immoral" and are irrelevant to the job, unlike LBJ choosing to kill Americans for nothing. But even if his wife was "lazy" that has nothing to do with judging LBJ's morality, does it. Nor does former Presidents failing to show up for a memorial dedication to a war they had nothing to do with reflect of their "morality". They're retired, johnny, leave them alone. It's not their job any more.

It is perfectly fine and not a mere "flaw" to judge your President on his immorality when it causes him to make such disastrous decisions in the execution of his job.


Now, johnny, why don't you address some of the serious points snakeoil made that you simply ignored?

Why? I told you why. You can't. You're intellectually impotent. Nitpicking petty details is all you're capable of.

[johnforbes]

My comments went to the heart of the hypocrisy of Snake's posting.

Other than noting that politicians are not, and should not be, moral guides, the fact that Snake is unhappy in life is up to him/her, not me.

In the same vein, it is clear that Elkin and Clown are very unhappy with their lot in life, and perhaps they could stop reading Marx for a second and ponder why they are so miserable.

[Clownkicker]

You demonstrated no hypocrisy at all in snakeoil's post, johnny. It is very consistent in its views.

I think you are confusing yourself with your own chronic hypocrisy.

[johnforbes]

No, I'm quite clear on his hypocrisy and Clown's.

In general, I'd like everybody to be happy, but obviously Clown and Snake are unhappy on this fine Tuesday, and all I can do is invite them to rethink their Marxism and turn toward the light of freedom and enterprise.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^^^ There's the Trump-supporting Right Wing nut job I've been telling you about.

He is convinced of the reality of his delusional world.

[johnforbes]

Tell me something boy, are you happy in your world of soy?

Or do you need more, is your Marxism a little too hard-core?

[Clownkicker]

Tell me something, girl, why so unhappy in this modern world?

Do you need less Trump? Is he someone you now long to dump?

[johnforbes]

Harumpf, I don't long to dump Trump, you chump.

I trumpet Trump even as a non-mugwump.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^ I pity the fool who is only as articulate as Mr. T.

[elklindo69]

Trumpers claim there is a vast left wing conspiracy to make Trump look stupid....really?

No it happens automatically when the cameras are pointed at Trump.

[Clownkicker]

Have you ever met a Trump supporter who could grasp the concept of a documentary; video that depicts actual events of history? "They're so boring."

They all think a Trump news conference is just the latest episode of Trump's "reality TV" show whenever they see him, so they don't care how stupid he looks. After all, it's just entertainment television to them and that's the sort of stupidity they enjoy watching. They believe that "President Trump" guy is just another inconsequential and harmless character Trump plays on TV, just like that ridiculously solemn "You're fired" joker he played on his last TV show.

They have no idea that what they see on live White House feeds these days is real, with real consequences for the rest of the world.

And yes, he really DOES look and sound that stupid in real life.

[elklindo69]

When coronavirus starts to spread throughout the red states more thourougly.....then it's not going to be funny anymore.

Now DeSantis in Flori-duh deemed WWE wrestling to be an "essential service"

So what did they elect a 14 year old to be governor?

[Clownkicker]

Stop laughing at DeSantis, elklindo.

Have you any idea what becomes of dimwits like johnforbes when they don't get their weekly WrestleMania fix. It ain't pretty.

But I grant you, them WATCHING WrestleMania isn't very pretty either. When you think of johnforbes grunting and spitting in rage while jumping up and down on the couch, with his potato chips and pizza falling cheese-down on the floor, that's pretty disgusting too.

Look at it this way-- it keeps them at home for a few more hours a day, and that's good for everyone.

[johnforbes]

Potato chips and cheese?

Sadly, such food items are banned by my wife who, although undeniably lovely, is a dietary dominatrix.

[elklindo69]

Stop laughing at DeSantis, elklindo.

Have you any idea what becomes of dimwits like johnforbes when they don't get their weekly WrestleMania fix. It ain't pretty.

But I grant you, them WATCHING WrestleMania isn't very pretty either. When you think of johnforbes grunting and spitting in rage while jumping up and down on the couch, with his potato chips and pizza falling cheese-down on the floor, that's pretty disgusting too.

Look at it this way-- it keeps them at home for a few more hours a day, and that's good for everyone.

Come on Clownkicker....the guy can't even figure out how to properly put on a mask. You can't make this shit up.

[RealJustme]

Elk what's wrong with the way he's wearing his mask? It allows him to lift it to drink, eat or make a phone call. He's not trying to keep out gasses, he's trying to suppress his cough or sneeze from projecting out 6 feet.

[elklindo69]

Justme is a microcosm of Trumpism... you people have the tendencies to elect the dumbest fucking morons on the planet.

[johnforbes]

He was an office in the Navy, and is a grad of Yale and Harvard Law.

By way of contrast, Elkin earned his GED while in reform school.

[elklindo69]

He was an office in the Navy, and is a grad of Yale and Harvard Law.

And so was G Dubya and Kushner.

You really don't think the two got in on their merits....now do you?

[johnforbes]

Bush Jr was of course a legacy admission, and I readily concede that was the old form of affirmative action.

But that doesn't make the new form -- affirmative action, now hiding as "diversity" -- correct either.