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By BilboBagend
#9992
Yes, Mitt. It's time to "Put Up or Shut Up".

Or, to quote the birthers, "Why doesn't Mitt release ten years of his long form tax returns."

It's clear why. The only question is, "Is Mitt actually hiding tax fraud, not just elite tax evasion?" At the least there is real reason to believe he has committed tax fraud in his tax deferred retirement savings accounts based on the forms he has already released.

It's time to clear this all up with some blue sky openness, but it seems it is NECESSARY for Mitt to be the first Presidential candidate in modern history to hide his tax returns.
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By namngulfvet
#9995
Hey dildo bagfull every president over the past years has provided at least one to two years of tax returns.. did Ojacakss provide his tax returns for the past 10 years... If not shut the fuck up.... You idots need to go back to sucking the shit out of Ojackasses asshole.
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By namngulfvet
#10000
Daily douche are you saying Ojacakss provided 12 years of tax returns? If so can you prove this..

Its normal for a president to provide one to two years. did you require john VC Kerry to provide 10 years...NO....I didnt think so idiot.
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By namngulfvet
#10001
Individual income tax returns — including those of public figures — are private information, protected by law from unauthorized disclosure. Indeed, the Internal Revenue Service is barred from releasing any taxpayer information whatsoever, except to authorized agencies and individuals.
Like all other citizens, U.S. presidents enjoy this protection of their privacy. Since the early 1970s, however, most presidents have chosen to release their returns publicly. In the hope of making this information more widely available, the Tax History Project at Tax Analysts has compiled an archive of presidential tax returns.

THIS MEANS ITS NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 10 YEARS OF TAX RETURNS DOPE HEAD..

http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.n ... taxreturns
By justdoit
#10005
You are correct, its not required to show your tax returns to be president.
Its also not required to be elected....
His stand is hurting his creditability. If he has nothing to hide and everything is on the up and up why not just present them.
What is the Romney team gaining here???
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By namngulfvet
#10011
justdoit a dead rat would be better then Ojacakss.

hemoose how can you respect the office of the presidency when you have a lying sack of shit Marxist Communist in office doing his best to destroy the greatest nation on the planet.
He despises rich (even though hes rich himself),
he despises the private sector,
he despises any who is successful, he continues to point fingers,
he never takes responsibility for anything (except he killed Ben Laden) ,
Hes put the country so deep into dept its going to take hundreds of years to get out.
hes spend over 6 Trillion dollars to put us in debt,
hes created a heath system that is going to raise taxes over a Trillion dollars on the nation,
we are paying over 8 million a day in interest to china,
hes against all America values and traditions,
hes for socialism,
All he does is lie,
hes in support of cronies who donate to his agenda,
hes allowed his left wing olicies to cripple small business,
hes divided the country,
hes the biggest racist on the planet.
hes never provided an oz of leadership
hes extremely arrogant,
hes intolerant,
he refuses to release his collage transcripts,
hes extremely hypocritical.
By justdoit
#10044
Namgulfvet
Your personal feelings toward Obama doesn't really matter here. The question is, Should Romney show his tax returns .
I contend- if there is nothing to hide, justdoit. Hes loseing credibilty with voters and droping in the polls due to his stance.
Again what is the Romney team thinking by not just presenting them, cause what their doing isn't putting out fires...
By themission1428
#10053
justdoit wrote:Namgulfvet
Your personal feelings toward Obama doesn't really matter here. The question is, Should Romney show his tax returns .
I contend- if there is nothing to hide, justdoit. Hes loseing credibilty with voters and droping in the polls due to his stance.
Again what is the Romney team thinking by not just presenting them, cause what their doing isn't putting out fires...
It's hopeless talking to Namgulfvet because he already made up his mind. It is Obama that is at fault. No matter what. If you read his post and his answers they all have that bent that there is nothing right with Obama.

Its more of an ideology to him first. And America is just second. People like him sometimes you just have to move on.
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By namngulfvet
#10067
moose how can you respect the office of the presidency when you have a lying sack of shit Marxist Communist in office doing his best to destroy the greatest nation on the planet.
He despises rich (even though hes rich himself),
he despises the private sector,
he despises any who is successful, he continues to point fingers,
he never takes responsibility for anything (except he killed Ben Laden) ,
Hes put the country so deep into dept its going to take hundreds of years to get out.
hes spend over 6 Trillion dollars to put us in debt,
hes created a heath system that is going to raise taxes over a Trillion dollars on the nation,
we are paying over 8 million a day in interest to china,
hes against all America values and traditions,
hes for socialism,
All he does is lie,
hes in support of cronies who donate to his agenda,
hes allowed his left wing olicies to cripple small business,
hes divided the country,
hes the biggest racist on the planet.
hes never provided an oz of leadership
hes extremely arrogant,
hes intolerant,
he refuses to release his collage transcripts,
hes extremely hypocritical.
By justdoit
#10174
Leroy
Great! I think it's the right thing to do to quell the doubters!!
But as I 1:30pm eastern 8/6/2012
CNN, FOX, MSNBC hasn't posted a thing.

Where did you find the info??
Let us know
thanks
By Leroy
#10180
Sorry, can't remember, just remember seeing selection boxes on a website dedicated to Romney, for each years tax returns - will see if I can find it later.

So, why is Obama still hiding his?
By justdoit
#10183
Hmmm, I am looking at the header, just saw about Romney, didn't see anything about Obama's taxes, But then he (Obama) has posted his returns for the last 12 years. I would be happy if Romney posted his last 5.
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By namngulfvet
#10185
Why is it so important for Romney to produce 12 years of taxes.
Have you made demands to see his birth certificate, his collage application, his collage transcripts, whats in Obama care, and most important..... I'm more interested in the Fast & Furious docs then Romneys tax returns. I'll bet Romneys taxes didnt kill 300 people including two American Border Agents.

What has Obama accomplished besides
41 straight months of unemployment
23 million out of work
$16 Trillion in debt
45 million Americans on food stamps.

You libs love to cherry pick Romeny but you let the worst president in history slide. Are you a Marxist Socialist or communist?
By justdoit
#10192
namgulfvet
First I didn't make demands to see anything, I didn't start this post. That being said
Romney
I believe Romney's taxes are all legal, my problem is are they ethical. Do I want a president who sings the National Anthem in one breath while hiding money in the Cyman Islands and Swiss Bank accounts in the other so that he he can live very large in this country' yet not pay what many would consider his do. Thats my problem with taxes, the wealthy have an unfair advantage. Sure they pay a higher rate at first glance, but have so many ways to deduct and hide (Cyman etc). that their rate is in fact lower, and I think if we saw Romney's returns much much lower. I know the "Buffett" law if inacted would only pay for something liker 6 days of our budget. But It would help level the playing field for taxpayers. And that is what the Romney team is trying to hide, the Unfair tax code.
Can he do it, sure is it right? only a vote will tell if we as a country feel it is. And I think the Romney team knows it, thats why they are running a 4 minute mile away from disclosing.
Obama
I'm not going to talk about his birth cert, college transcripts, in my opinion thats silly.
Fast and Furious, Obama care, valid points and something that see the light of day. ...
By Leroy
#10193
justdoit wrote:Hmmm, I am looking at the header, just saw about Romney, didn't see anything about Obama's taxes, But then he (Obama) has posted his returns for the last 12 years. I would be happy if Romney posted his last 5.
How about Obama's election contributions - why did he remove the Zip code box from the initial donation website (the only reason to do that is to be able to claim you don't know where the contribution actually comes from, allowing foreign contributions without blame).

How about the documents that Obama has refused to provide that are even more relative to his background and intent than those tax records for Romney?
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By namngulfvet
#10195
First I didn't make demands to see anything, I didn't start this post. That being said
Romney
I believe Romney's taxes are all legal, my problem is are they ethical. Do I want a president who sings the National Anthem in one breath while hiding money in the Cyman Islands and Swiss Bank accounts in the other so that he he can live very large in this country' yet not pay what many would consider his do. Thats my problem with taxes, the wealthy have an unfair advantage. Sure they pay a higher rate at first glance, but have so many ways to deduct and hide (Cyman etc). that their rate is in fact lower, and I think if we saw Romney's returns much much lower. I know the "Buffett" law if inacted would only pay for something liker 6 days of our budget. But It would help level the playing field for taxpayers. And that is what the Romney team is trying to hide, the Unfair tax code.
Can he do it, sure is it right? only a vote will tell if we as a country feel it is. And I think the Romney team knows it, thats why they are running a 4 minute mile away from disclosing.
Obama
I'm not going to talk about his birth cert, college transcripts, in my opinion thats silly.
Fast and Furious, Obama care, valid points and something that see the light of day. ...

Justdoit asking for Romneys tax returns is a demand all liberals are making. And you really think asking Obama about his transcripts is silly asking about his birth cert is silly??? Really you dont care about his past or what past he claims but has never proven...

Heres a question for you justdoit... Do hate all wealthy people or just the ones that arent Obamas campaign contributors??? And why now? Did you hate theme 3 years ago and why do you hate them so much. some place some how they or their father made money by working their asses off. Now you want to confiscate it all in in the name of socialism... How much is Obama giving up? How much is John VC KJerry giving up, What about the Kennedy.. Again educate yourself son.
By justdoit
#10211
namgulfvet
Reread what I wrote. I never said I hate the wealthy, if I did show me where. I said I have a problem with the system, the rigged tax system that favors the wealthy. That's a big difference.
If ya feel the need of the personal attacks like why I hate this or that so much, Its going nowhere with me bro, I'm not playing that game.


Now to get back on track of this post
Would you have a problem if It was found out, brought to light as a fact that Mitt Romney paid no taxes for 3 of his last five years of 1040's?
I would have a problem with it if it came to light. And I think a lot of others would also. And I think that's the reason The Romney team is doing all they can to keep his return under wraps till it hopfully fades away.
By BilboBagend
#10212
I doubt if Romney's taxes are all legal. That said, they are also probably not far different than the majority of tax filings at the upper income level. Filled with clearly illegal and fraudulent expenses, deductions, and credits that will most likely never be audited. Also, if audited, there will be sufficient plausible deniability and blame of technical errors in such a complex filing that they will be able to argue their way out of most penalties or minimize such penalties, thus still have a net positive return on a totally legal filling. In other words, standard business practice.

Just another reason the common person is screwed by a political system tuned to advantage and entitle the wealth class.
By Leroy
#10219
BilboBagend wrote:Just another reason the common person is screwed by a political system tuned to advantage and entitle the wealth class.
And you think that Odumbass has some realistic connection to the COMMON PERSON?

His people, and himself, are in the upper .5%, and he's screwing you daily while telling you that he's doing it for your own good and if you just hang in, he will give you want you really need.

Do you really think that a woman that wears a $7000 shirt is in touch with the COMMON PERSON?
By Leroy
#10237
BilboBagend wrote:I doubt if Romney's taxes are all legal.
I bet you won't find a single person, at any economic level, that files the 1040 non-short form, that is 100% legit in everything they claim - this is not something that only applies to the wealthy.

Dumbass!
By themission1428
#10249
Leroy wrote:
BilboBagend wrote:I doubt if Romney's taxes are all legal.
I bet you won't find a single person, at any economic level, that files the 1040 non-short form, that is 100% legit in everything they claim - this is not something that only applies to the wealthy.

Dumbass!

Yeah just as like as having account in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland ? Also having a horse participating in the Olympics ? Sure they don't look like a common man would do ordinarily.

I find it hilarious that somehow you are trying to paint Romney as a regular Joe when clearly he is not. Just because not finding a single person, at any economic level, that files the 1040 non-short form, that is 100% legit in everything they claim it doesn't automatically make Romney a regular person.

Romney went to an elite boarding school.
He studied at Stanford and Harvard
His father was the Governor of Michigan
He has Swiss Bank Accounts and accounts in the Cayman Islands
He is worth 250 MILLION dollars at least
A regular bet for him is $10,000.00 as evidence from the debate when he got pissed he challenged Rick Perry or Newt Gingrich. Man...10,000.00 dollars is like a two or three months worth of salary for most Americans.
He is the only presidential candidate to have a horse participate in the Olympics.
He went missionary work as a mormon in France I think. He speaks French.

You gotta be insulting the intelligence of most Americans when you try to paint Romney as a regular guy just because nobody (according to you) is declaring 100 legit on their 1040 short form.

I think he just got around $140,000.00 in tax cut if i'm not mistaken.
By lumpster
#10250
They made a great case today.. both Romney and Reid are mormons and they are having a pissing contest.. let them fight it out.. Reid has the goods on Romney and they say the two groups of mormans hate one another..
By themission1428
#10253
lumpster wrote:They made a great case today.. both Romney and Reid are mormons and they are having a pissing contest.. let them fight it out.. Reid has the goods on Romney and they say the two groups of mormans hate one another..


lol....only one of them can be right. So we will see what happens....
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By namngulfvet
#10289
Reid has the goods on Romney and they say the two groups of mormans hate one another.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Libs are so fucking stupid its funny.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
By themission1428
#10295
namngulfvet wrote:Reid has the goods on Romney and they say the two groups of mormans hate one another.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Libs are so fucking stupid its funny.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Namvulfvet what else do you want for free from your socialist marxist communist ? You want to FREE rent ? car ? clothes ? beer ?

I am a liberal and work 7 days a week employing people and taxing taxes. You are a republican who gets FREE stuff from Obama thru taxes of other hardworking americans.

Why don't you work and be more productive ? As your champion conservative host Sean Hannity says "Don't depend on the government to provide for you."

It's so ironic that a liberal is the one working and paying taxes while you a republican complaining about the trillion dollar debt of America is sucking money off from the government. (as Sean Hannity says, "My hard earned money".) Not to metion being you a racist.
By themission1428
#10370
namngulfvet wrote:You dont know if I work or not asshole. You dont have a clue what I do.



stupid libs!
I agree with Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly on this....What else do you want for free from the government Namgulf ? You want free car ? beer ? pay your rent ?

I guess Hannity was right.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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