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By Clownkicker
#120945
"Dude looks like a lady!"-RealTool

And RealTool looks like an absolute moron. But should he be ridiculed for the way he looks?

Of course not. He should be ridiculed for the moronic things coming out of his mouth.
By sillydaddy
#120956
First of all, the president was not intimidating anyone..
Actually Schiff is the one intimidating the witness....
He's the one that allowed the tweet to be announced to the witness in the middle of her testifying
and then used her reaction to attack the President...!
Nothing became of that accusation, Why? because the it's the Demos that are guilty :O
By johnforbes
#120957
Exactly, Schiff was the one transmitting the info.

Fiona was born in the UK, Yovanovitch apparently from Canada, and Vindman in Ukraine.

They deliver these pompous lectures on what American foreign policy should be, and what American patriotism is, but none of them were even born in America.

Apparently Vindman was shaken up by some roadside bomb in Iraq and received a Purple Heart. He also served in Germany and South Korea. Okay, just showing up in a combat zone is dangerous, so I'd grant him that.

But an O-5 is no big deal, as any veteran can tell you. And he was clearly passed over for promotion and probably only retained at 22 yrs because of language ability. So, in essence, he was doing translation confirmation for accuracy.

Vindman does NOT make foreign policy, nor does some "female" like Fiona Hill, nor does the airhead Yovanovitch who was not even on the July phone call in question and was only fired because the Ukraine president wanted her to leave and because she was NOT implementing Trump's policy as ambassadors are supposed to do.
By Clownkicker
#120963
"Vindman does NOT make foreign policy, nor does some "female" like Fiona Hill,..."-johnflubs

Now we see that typical conservative contempt for women. johnny didn't say "nor does some ambassador." No, he said "female". It's the female part that bothers him. He can't fault the things she said so he attacks her for being an 'uppity' woman in an attempt to make conservative dimwits forget the damning testimony she gave.

Welcome to the ugly world of Trump supporters and their ingrained misogyny.
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By RealJustme
#120969
Now we see that typical conservative contempt for women. johnny didn't say "nor does some ambassador." No, he said "female". It's the female part that bothers him.
What's false about John's statement? Plus it can't be the female part that bothers him, because the dude's not a lady.
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By RealJustme
#120972
Tool, made up stupid shit is not an argument.
You're the one that made up shit about what John said, I'll repeat my question, what's false about John's statement?
By Clownkicker
#120974
Tool, the real question is what part of what johforbes said is RELEVANT?

Like "Apparently Vindman was shaken up by some roadside bomb in Iraq and received a Purple Heart. He also served in Germany and South Korea. Okay, just showing up in a combat zone is dangerous, so I'd grant him that.
But an O-5 is no big deal, as any veteran can tell you. And he was clearly passed over for promotion and probably only retained at 22 yrs because of language ability. So, in essence, he was doing translation confirmation for accuracy."-johnforbes

All johnforbes has besides deserved respect for Vindman's earlier service in Iraq is that Vindman's still doing a good job in accurate translation. So how does that in any way reflect poorly on Vindman? It doesn't. johnny just tries to make it sound like it does because he's got no evidence to impugn Vindman's service, as always.

Or "Fiona was born in the UK, Yovanovitch apparently from Canada, and Vindman in Ukraine.
They deliver these pompous lectures on what American foreign policy should be, and what American patriotism is, but none of them were even born in America."-johnforbes

There is nothing whatsoever relevant about not being born in America as long as they ARE Americans now, which they are.
johnny has no evidence that any of them did anything wrong or he would have listed that instead of merely making moronic personal attacks with innuendo and nothing else.
johnny is just playing on your ingrained xenophobia. It works on the dimwitted quite easily. That's why Trump plays on your simple minds so often. It's an easy way to manipulate dimwits. There's nothing wrong with being an immigrant, of course. There's nothing relevant about being an immigrant. We are a country of immigrants. But johnforbes, like Trump, tries to make it sound like a bad thing. It isn't.
johnforbes is merely a partisan scumbag hypocrite, just like you.

Or "Vindman does NOT make foreign policy, nor does some "female" like Fiona Hill, nor does the airhead Yovanovitch who was not even on the July phone call in question and was only fired because the Ukraine president wanted her to leave and because she was NOT implementing Trump's policy as ambassadors are supposed to do."-johnfibs

Of course, it would be a crime to implement an illegal foreign policy. It would be wrong for anyone to do so. Trump simply fires anyone he can't get to break the law for him. And if they do break the law for him, then he eventually fires them anyway.
Instead, Vindman and Hill chose to do the right thing for America, which is an alien concept for Republicans. Republicans do the expedient thing to remain in power and personally profit from their policies at the cost of America's interests. But johnforbes tries to make Vindman and Hill doing the right thing for America appear to be a bad thing, which is just repugnant to any good American.

johnforbes has nothing. He plays on the simple minded because he can't find anything bad to say about those he dislikes, so he picks on their bow tie or their uniform or their appearance or some other irrelevant thing to avoid the facts while pointing his finger elsewhere. It's what partisan hypocrites do.
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By RealJustme
#120979
Vindman and Hill chose to do the right thing for America
Clown, that's the problem, they don't get to determine what they "feel" is right for America, it's really that simple.
By Clownkicker
#120982
Nobody said they did what the "feel" Tool. You made it up just like all your other made up stupid shit.

They did the right thing because rationally they didn't want to be complicit in a crime, dummy. That isn't a bad thing. It's a good thing.
By Clownkicker
#120988
"Clown, that's the problem, they don't get to determine what they "feel" is right for America,...."-RealTool

They didn't "determine what they "feel,"" dummy. You made it up.
By johnforbes
#120996
The relevant parts of my prior post, well, they shine brighter than Alpha Centauri:


Exactly, Schiff was the one transmitting the info.

Fiona was born in the UK, Yovanovitch apparently from Canada, and Vindman in Ukraine.

They deliver these pompous lectures on what American foreign policy should be, and what American patriotism is, but none of them were even born in America.

Apparently Vindman was shaken up by some roadside bomb in Iraq and received a Purple Heart. He also served in Germany and South Korea. Okay, just showing up in a combat zone is dangerous, so I'd grant him that.

But an O-5 is no big deal, as any veteran can tell you. And he was clearly passed over for promotion and probably only retained at 22 yrs because of language ability. So, in essence, he was doing translation confirmation for accuracy.

Vindman does NOT make foreign policy, nor does some "female" like Fiona Hill, nor does the airhead Yovanovitch who was not even on the July phone call in question and was only fired because the Ukraine president wanted her to leave and because she was NOT implementing Trump's policy as ambassadors are supposed to do.
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