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#120628
So this is all great, johnny. What's your point?

Do you actually think any Republicans, without any morals or integrity would blow the whistle on Trump? Seriously?

Now the facts are coming out and they look really bad, regardless of who blew the whistle. Get on with the impeachment already. Republicans don't give a fuck anyway. They have predetermined the verdict and will refuse to weigh the glaring evidence fairly.

Miraculously, Trump is the ONLY honest person in D.C. according to Trump supporters. They smear every military veteran, every career State Department ambassador, every person in law enforcement, every intelligence officer, every career public servant as being corrupt and liars. To them, Trump has never done anything wrong, despite a lifetime of lying, bankruptcies, cheating on multiple wives, and cheating contractors out of their hard-earned money. Republicans are just fine with all of it because they have abandoned all family values, or ANY values besides corruption for personal gain. They long for a dictator who can make them feel safe.
#120633
The point is that Eric Ciamarella was apparently one of the originators of the Russia hoax, and he has apparently been engaged for years in an attempt to unseat Trump after his party lost the 2016 election.

He worked with the DNC and with Brennan and Biden, all of whom hate Trump.

Eric should be willing to testify in public, under oath, and answer questions if -- big if -- he is telling the truth.
#120636
They smear every military veteran, every career State Department ambassador, every person in law enforcement, every intelligence officer, every career public servant as being corrupt and liars.
Clown, you know that's a lie, you're beginning to get as bad as Schiff. That's why you've lost all credibility.
#120639
People say Russia sought to interfere, but other than a few Facebook ads can't prove that.

Mueller never even looked beyond a redacted report from partisan Crowdstrike. He did NOT look at the server, and nobody even knows where it is (destroyed or in pieces no doubt).

Download speeds suggest a domestic download, perhaps by somebody at the DNC, and Seth Rich is often singled out as a possibility.

But there is no proof that Russia tried, in any serious way, and Obama said very much that in October 2016 that it was not even possible given decentralized voting machines not even linked up online.
#120644
"He [Mueller] did NOT look at the server, and nobody even knows where it is (destroyed or in pieces no doubt)."-JOHNFLUBS

So how can you fault Mueller for not looking at something you believe is destroyed? That's just stupid.

"Download speeds suggest a domestic download,..."-johnflubs

Nobody said the downloads weren't done domestically. Only dimwits believe Russia doesn't have agents working inside the U.S..

"...perhaps by somebody at the DNC, and Seth Rich is often singled out as a possibility."-johnflubs

johnny, wild unsupported speculation by Trump supporters is not evidence of anything, dummy.

Criminy, conservatives are truly clueless about how the world works.
#120648
Okay, Tool, name one person who has come out with evidence against Trump that has not been smeared by Trump
Duh, everyone of them have present false evidence, why wouldn't he call them out?

Plus you said:
They smear every military veteran, every career State Department ambassador, every person in law enforcement, every intelligence officer, every career public servant as being corrupt and liars.”
That's another example of false evidence, something Schiff would say, John and I are Vets, please tell us when Trump smeared us. You see how stupid you statement is? :clown:
#120653
Clown, I saw your Thurs. post. yes, some Republicans will blow the whistle. The anonymous "senior Administration official" who wrote the NYT piece a while back is coming out with a book next month. It is supposed to expose to expose Trrrummmp (Damn, I just can't bring myself to even write his name) for the fraud that he is. The book is called "A Warning" written by Anonymous.
#120654
Snake, you can't even type the name of the elected president?

And Democrats have been attempting to undo the 2016 election, so how patriotic is that?

Nineteen minutes after Trump was sworn in was the first newspaper article on impeachment.

None of this is new, and it is born of only one thing -- pure political hatred because the desired candidate, crooked Hillary, didn't win.
#120657
John, Democrats trying to undo the election? Come on!

Remember when Lindsey Graham (and others) had the "Never Trump" movement at the Convention?

Remember all of the GOPers running for the nomination lambasting Trump as totally unfit for office?

Remember when, after the Grab The Pussy comments, Dump said he thought he was done?

Remember That Dumpy didn't even have an acceptance speech on Election Night because he didn't even think he would win.

Before the election, most of the GOPers fought against a Dumpy Presidency because they knew what was coming if he won. Of course now he is the best President in history to them. It seems that the GOPers original instincts were right.

Remember when he said he would release his tax returns? Now he is fighting tooth and nail to keep them hidden. I wonder why?

Remember when he said he was going to replace Obamacare with something so much better but he never came up with his own plan?

Remember when he picked when he picked the oh so great NSC director that he had been warned against only to have to fire him days later?

Remember the Iran Nuke plan that hindered Iran's abilities to obtain nukes? It might have been imperfect but it was working. Now Iran is free to start research again because Dump pulled out of the deal.

Remember his great tax reform that gave 83% of the benefits to the 1%. Even the benefits to the other taxpayers are only temporary.

Remember his great Presidential policies...undo whatever Obama did. I know you'll jump on this one John.

Remember when "Whats His Name" said he will get us out of Afghanistan in a few months? Damn, we're still there.

Remember his great success with Kim fat Boy from North Korea? Sincee his "success" Kim has more nukes and much better missiles.

Remember him pulling out of Syria and leaving the Kurds to the Mercy of the Turks? He had our retreating troops bomb all of the infrastructure and supplies that they had to leave behind. Naturally he changed his mind and sent them back in. Of course we will have to redo the infrastructure and resupply the troops.

Remember how he constantly tears up his own people? Remember that old saying, "Be kind to the people you meet on the way up because you'll meet them on the way down."
#120660
"Remember what the Democrats have done for us lately?"-sillydummy

You mean BESIDES doing their job of investigating a corrupt President?

Well, they have passed over 100 pieces of legislation in the House that McConnell refuses to bring to the floor of the Senate.

How in the world could you possibly know what the Democrats have been doing for you when the Republicans refuse to even discuss or vote on any of it? They are too cowardly to vote on something Americans actually want, so they bury them all and pretend the Democrats aren't doing anything.

Meanwhile, why don't you answer the question "Remember what the Republicans have done for us lately?"

The answer is "They haven't done jack shit lately."
#120665
Meanwhile, why don't you answer the question "Remember what the Republicans have done for us lately?"
Clown I beat your answer of the Democrats' accomplishment of opening several investigations of Trump. Here's a few of the Republicans accomplish in just that last two years:

•Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
•More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
•We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
•Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
•New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
•Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
•African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
•Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
•Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
•Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
•Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
•Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
•Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
•Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
•The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
•95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
•Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
•Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
•As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
•Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
•Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
•Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
•Record number of regulations eliminated.
•Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
•Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
•My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
•Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
•We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
•Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
•Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
•We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
•Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
•Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
•United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
•Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
•Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
•Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
•NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
•Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
•Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
•Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
•Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
•Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
•Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
•Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
•Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
•Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
•Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
•Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
•Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
•Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
•We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.
#120666
Snake, I do understand not liking certain presidents.

For example, LBJ and Nixon sent me a war which left 58,000 dead and hundreds of thousands injured, and left 2 million enemy dead.

But there is now a truckload of clear evidence that partisan top officials -- from McCabe to Comey to Strzok to Page to Yates to Priestap, the list is long -- were indeed seeking to undo the 2016 election.

NINETEEN MINUTES AFTER TRUMP WAS SWORN IN CAME THE FIRST IMPEACHMENT NEWSPAPER ARTICLE.

Snake, be honest and admit that Democrats and RINO Repubs just refused to repeal and replace Obamacare. They did refuse, and Paul Ryan deserves a lot of the blame.

As to disappointing appointees, every president has them. Trump had his share because Dems and RINOS both hated him because he was not a Swamp member.

Obama's Iran deal was a horrible idea.

Obama failed miserably re Syria, and so did a host of others including Merkel.

As to the Kurds, there is a real danger on our southern border this instant, but Democrats don't care at all. And the average Democrat did NOT go fight with the Kurds, and wouldn't know a Kurd from a curd. Spartacus Booker would be very aggressive in a bathroom, but nowhere else.
#120673
Even if some technicality means black unemployment is not at its lowest, why didn't Obama bring it down as Trump did?

Why didn't Obama make female and HIspanic unemployment to historic low levels?

Because Obama didn't care, because he knew 95 percent of blacks would vote for him anyhow based on affinity and they did.

Why did Obama's DoJ , and his FBI and CIA and IRS. permit what were clearly corrupt and partisan attempts to use the machinery of governance to attempt to thwart Trump and then undermine him in seditious fashion?

Should Repubs be writing fake dossiers on Bernie and Liz and Joe?

Should Bernie and Liz and Joe be wiretapped for political reasons, as Trump was?
#120675
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... a-michigan
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[quote]Nearly a decade ago, Republicans swept into office in state legislatures and in the House of Representatives, and went about remaking American politics — despite a Democrat in the White House. Almost immediately after the GOP captured several pivotal state governments in 2010, they began a frenzy of gerrymandering that seemed to guarantee Republican majorities for the rest of the decade. 

Under the gerrymandered maps, Republican state Senate candidates “won a minority— 49.5%—of the two-party statewide vote, but still won 29 of 50 seats (58%).” GOP state House candidates “won a minority—48.8%— of the two-party statewide vote, but still won 65 of 120 seats (54%).” [/quote]
#120681
•Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan?

https://e360.yale.edu/digest/the-trump- ... power-plan
According to The Guardian, the amount of CO2 emitted from U.S. power plants over the next decade will be at least 12 times higher than under the Obama-era plan. The 300-page rule acknowledges that an increase in CO2 emissions and fine particulate pollution could lead to up to 1,400 premature deaths annually by 2030, The New York Times reported. It also notes that the new plan could cause 48,000 news cases of exacerbated asthma and at least 21,000 new missed school days annually.
#120682
Snake, I was a very serious investor in 2008 and paying very close attention to what was going on.

I don't need any link to any site to discuss it.

I don't blame Obama in particular for the Crash of 08 because both Bush Jr and Obama were trying to increase home ownership by allowing mortgages for more poor whites, more blacks, more Hispanics. Also, there was a general real estate bubble in an area of the economy (homes) which was deemed by many "experts" able to resist a deep drop.

Do I give credit to Obama for pulling America out of that? Not really. It was a combination of historic low interest rates, and bond buying programs by central bankers here and abroad, and it was also investors like me who kept their noses to the grindstone and kept buying stocks.

By Sept of 09, my portfolio had completely recovered from 08 and started to increase. Those people who sold low were in trouble, had to buy high, or simply lost faith in stocks and had to watch as the stock market moved up for the next decade.

Do I give credit to Trump for indicators like the Dow increasing from 18,000 to where it is today? Well, Trump has urged the Fed to be stimulative, and Trump cut regulatory burdens, but no president alone should get credit or blame for the economy although any president can help set a tone.

In general, Obama leaned toward redistribution of wealth, and he admitted that. Trump leans more toward capitalism, although it is true that Obama led than 1 million net worth in office and is now worth 12 times that.

Obama, who now has an oceanfront mansion in Martha's Vineyard, is a capitalist for himself, and so is Liz Warren. Even Biden made millions after leaving the VP slot.

I grew up doing manual labor in ranching, and am now a multi-millionaire. Liz Warren was once a poor person from Oklahoma. Obama's father was an alcoholic Marxist prof and his mother a white PhD, and they had some money but were not rich.

America permits success if a person works hard, or works smart, or knows somebody, or invents something even as balky as Windows...
#120686
I don't blame Obama in particular for the Crash of 08 because both Bush Jr and Obama were trying to increase home ownership by allowing mortgages for more poor whites, more blacks, more Hispanics. Also, there was a general real estate bubble in an area of the economy (homes) which was deemed by many "experts" able to resist a deep drop.
John, a bit of revisionist history here isn't it? Obama wasn't in office when the crash hit. remember when Obama and Mccain met in the White House before the election?
#120690
Snake, go back over what I wrote.

I've been a serious investor for decades, so the stuff about trying to pin blame (or give credit) to any one transitory politician for this or that economic situation is just too superficial.

And don't get me started on Bush Junior, who failed to spot the urgency of getting out of military situations, and who failed to secure the southern border even after 9/11.
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