[johnforbes]

If, as reported, it is true that the informant met with Schiff or his staff BEFORE, then this was never even a whistleblower case really.

Second, it looks like the IG -- or somebody who changed the form to permit hearsay/rumor/gossip -- was seeking to leak classified info and tried to pretend it was whistleblowing.

[RealJustme]

The IG is now saying the informant mislead him on it being first hand knowledge and not having discussed it with anyone else before coming to the IG. Turns out Schiff and his team recruited the informant and prepped that person on what to report to the IG...exact same MO as the Russia farce.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^^^ More made up stupid shit from The Tool.

You clowns are really flailing when you don't even pretend any longer to have any evidence whatsoever for the made up garbage you post.

[johnforbes]

Under that scenario, which various reports say is accurate, this person would NOT be a true whistleblower at all.

He/she would merely be a person who heard gossip about the content of a private call between two foreign leaders, wanted to leak that to hurt Trump, but also wanted to not be found guilty of leaking classified into, and so he/she went to Schiff for guidance.

[elklindo69]

Me: Did you see the text messages that established a quid pro quo between Trump and Ukraine?

John Forbes:

[johnforbes]

There was a quid pro quo, but it was between Biden and Ukraine.

And Biden and China.

[elklindo69]

I'm waiting for that quid pro quo with Trump and America....

[johnforbes]

First, we all must defer to Elkin's expertise with blowing whistles, a skill he honed in the baths of Frisco.

That aside, this was not a genuine whistleblower case at all, but instead a case of partisan leaking of classified info in an attempt to damage Trump and his ability to speak candidly and privately with foreign leaders.

Remember Obama saying he could be more helpful after the election to Russia?

[Clownkicker]

First, we all must defer to johnforbes' expertise with being a partisan douche bag, a skill he honed over his entire life lived as a douche bag and hypocritically partisan.

That aside, this was a genuine whistleblower case because nothing was leaked at all but went through specified whistle blowing protocols per the law. And in fact everything in the complaint proved to be true as we all now see since Trump incriminated himself by releasing the transcript of the phone call containing the criminal behavior he continues to freely admit to.

Remember Lindsey Graham saying of Bill Clinton in 1999: "He doesn't have to say "Go lie for me" to be a crime. You don't have to say "Let's obstruct justice" for it to be a crime. You judge people on their conduct, not magic phrases."

[johnforbes]

This was not a genuine whistleblower case at all, but instead a case of partisan leaking of classified info in an attempt to damage Trump and his ability to speak candidly and privately with foreign leaders.

Remember Obama saying he could be more helpful after the election to Russia?

[sillydaddy]

So the second whistleblower claims he has first hand knowledge of the Presient's call to Ukraine..
That means this guy was in the room and as such was an advisor to the President..!

So all this is for show , a circus now...
This guy is useless as a whistleblower,,,He's just an asshole ..
But the Demos will use him for show..because they know they can't trust him..!

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^ Here we see the Trump-supporter version of thing, which is, if you don't have first hand knowledge of an action, you can't be a whistleblower. And if you DO have first hand knowledge, then you can't be a whistle blower.

In other words, they believe a President is above the law because they can never be accused of wrongdoing, and the section of the Constitution covering impeachment was just our founding fathers jacking off.

Why do conservatives want to jack off on the Constitution? They have no respect at all for our Republic with three co-equal branches of government. Once again we see that what they actually crave is a strongman dictatorship like North Korea or Saudi Arabia.

[johnforbes]

Although we all respect Clown's experience with blowing whistles from his tenure in Frisco, he is wrong.

This was not a genuine whistleblower case at all, but instead a case of partisan leaking of classified info in an attempt to damage Trump and his ability to speak candidly and privately with foreign leaders.

Remember Obama saying he could be more helpful after the election to Russia?