[elklindo69]

So we now have Rudy Ghouliani, because when I need a razor sharp mind to explain what the fuck is going on in Trumplandia, I turn to the gibberish spouting nutjob whose brain has metamorphized into green scrambled eggs and ham.

So now you have to ask....is it dumber to:

1. Pressure a foreign government to dig up dirt on your political enemy.

or

2. Rely on Ghouliani to cover it up?

Cuomo: “Did you ask the Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden?”

Giuliani: “No, actually I didn’t. I asked the Ukraine to investigate the allegations that there was interference in the election of 2016 by the Ukrainians for the benefit of Hillary Clinton, for which there is already a court finding.”

Cuomo: “You never asked anything about Hunter Biden? You never asked anything about Joe Biden and his role with the prosecutor?”

Giuliani: “The only thing I asked about Joe Biden is to get to the bottom of how it was that Lutsenko, who was appointed, dismissed the case.”

Cuomo: “So you did ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden?”

Giuliani: “Of course I did.”

Cuomo: “You just said you didn’t!”

Giuliani: “I didn’t ask them to look into Joe Biden. I asked them to look into the allegations that related to my client, which tangentially involved Joe Biden.”

[johnforbes]

This is not a good issue for Democrats because it brings up the real question:

Biden was VP and he was working on issues with Ukraine, so then his son Hunter -- with zero experience -- got billions to manage from Ukraine.

Trump was properly curious regarding the status of what seems to be an enormous Dem scandal if Biden continues to seek the presidency despite the fact that Biden's mind seems to function below that of scrambled eggs.

[sillydaddy]

I watched that interview.....
Rudy Giuliani was playing chess.....and as usual Chris Cuomo was playing with himself..!

[johnforbes]

Elkin has blown many things during his long tenure in the baths of Frisco.

[Clownkicker]

Apparently sillydummy thinks that when he is stacking blocks and they fall over, he is "playing chess".

[sillydaddy]

Apparently Clown thinks that when taking the tour of both Buckingham Palace and Winsor Castle , he is "Castling".

[RealJustme]

First of all there was no whistleblower, at the most it was another leaker.

Second based upon what this anonymous leaker may have alleged, Biden says Trump attempted to use his office to influence Ukraine by withholding money, which is exactly what Biden did and then bragged about it.

Trump set the Democrats and media up once again. He got them to bring the need for an investigation to the American public, now they can't back out of it. I wouldn't be surprised if the leaker was one of Trump's attorneys leaking the call at Trump's request to accomplish just what it's accomplishing. Democrats continue to play checker while Trump is playing chess.

[johnforbes]

I'm very surprised that Democrats are playing up this whistleblower thing.

The entire background of this involves Biden saying things like he didn't talk to his son, but he was on a flight with him to China, long flight, and his son was getting to manage over a billion dollars with no experience, and Biden bragged about getting the prosecutor fired, and the company involved had Kerry's relative and even Whitey Bulger's relative involved.

So, inevitably, the whole context sheds light on Joe and Hunter Biden's apparent efforts to profit from Joe being VP.

And this is Hunter, who was kicked out of a military reserve unit for flunking a cocaine test.

The same guy who married his dead brother's wife.

What sane political operative would want to shine a light on that entire mess?

[sillydaddy]

All this happened on Obama's watch....
So now I'm curious...what's the chance Obama asked Biden for a cut of that money....
After all , if it wasn't for Obama..Joe would never have been able to do this.....

I think that is why Obama didn't want to endorse Biden and tried to talk Joe out of running …
because this would call attention to them both....!

[elklindo69]

If anybody really believes that that the guy who drew on a weather map with a fucking sharpie and then tried to pretend that he had no idea how it happened is going to release an unedited transcript of his phone call to Ukraine....

Well then I have five bankrupt casinos in Atlantic City to sell you.

[johnforbes]

Did Barry O release conversation transcripts with Putin after he promised he would have more latitude after the election?

The only proven collusion with Russia was Hillary selling them uranium and then paying Russian "sources" for fodder for the fake dossier

[johnforbes]

Turns out that CNN says this "whistleblower" had no "direct knowledge" at all of this purported conversation, but instead relied on a rumor in the intel community.

Hum, was it something Brennan was peddling?

[elklindo69]

So Johnnie if that was the case then how come Trump won't release the transcripts? Everything could be easily cleared up if Trump were telling the truth?

[johnforbes]

Probably because of national security, but -- as Trump noted -- any president has to realize many people are listening to such a call.

Therefore, it is very unlikely anything out of the way transpired, like Biden bragging about having gotten a prosecutor in Ukraine fired to help his crooked son.

[RealJustme]

I think that is why Obama didn't want to endorse Biden and tried to talk Joe out of running …
because this would call attention to them both....!

Bingo! Rest assured Obama isn't sleeping at night afraid of what bumbling old Joe might disclose during one his bragging interviews.

[elklindo69]

Nothing says "witch hunt" like Trump's 1/2 dozen panicky tweets within 10 minutes!

[johnforbes]

I support Pelosi going ahead with an impeachment inquiry.

This will help Trump get reelected.

[elklindo69]

I support Pelosi going ahead with an impeachment inquiry.

This will help Trump get reelected.

@BillKristol
Sep 23
The current president of the United States seems to have no real commitment to the truth, the rule of law, American principles and institutions—or, for that matter, free and fair elections. And he has lots of supporters and enablers. That’s the heart of our constitutional crisis.

[sillydaddy]

Well Elk..I guess Donna Brazile getting caught giving Hillary the questions to her debate with Bernie didn't bother you...
nor give you a hint that the DNC will stop at nothing, NOTHING I TELL YOU...to get the edge on an election..!
Just like this time.....!
Since when does someone become a "whistleblower" when he only has second hand information...?


As for this "impeachment inquiry"....Pelosi went along with to get those Trump hating Reps off her back..
knowing full well all they are doing is the same bullshit they have been doing since day one with all their
investigating...The Muller investigation and all the rest has been one big impeachment inquiry...

It's going to be very embarrassing for the Demos to go through all this .. and then have the American people tell then, they never wanted Joe as their President anyway….

[johnforbes]

Elkin, surely you know that Kristol has always hated Trump.

Kristol makes a fool of himself daily on leftist shows on CNN and MSNBC.

[sillydaddy]

The presidential candidates that are Senators are now between a rock and a hard place...
They know the majority of Americans don't want anything to rock the economy boat...
Yet they have to vote yea or nay on impeachment..!
It has already been reported many in the House will be sacrificing their political careers on this...
Will those presidential candidates do the same ?

[RealJustme]

I support Pelosi going ahead with an impeachment inquiry.

This will help Trump get reelected.

Yep they have the hopes of the left up that Trump will removed from office " FOR REAL" this time. The impeachment is going to flop bigger than the Mueller report and the left is going to be OUTRAGED that smoke was blew up their ass again.

[elklindo69]

Well this is what ends up happening when you try to run a country as if it were some sleazy two bit casino and attempt to pull a dimwitted shakedown on the head of a foreign country, anyone could have told you that, ya moronic and overconfident under-qualified imbecile!

[RealJustme]

Well this is what ends up happening when you try to run a country as if it were some sleazy two bit casino and attempt to pull a dimwitted shakedown on the head of a foreign country, anyone could have told you that, ya moronic and overconfident under-qualified imbecile!

Guess that means you're going to be voting against him in the 2020 elections...because that's the liberals only option to remove him from office.

In the mean time, donations to Trump's re-election is up 600% since the Dems announced impeachment attempts. Trump played them like a drum.

[elklindo69]

I suppose all of that money is going to pay for Trump's army of lawyers...

And Justme steps in it again...........................

LMFAO!!!

[RealJustme]

I suppose all of that money is going to pay for Trump's army of lawyers...

Hurts doesn't it?

[elklindo69]

I suppose all of that money is going to pay for Trump's army of lawyers...

Hurts doesn't it?

I think I can hear the fat lady singing?

Let me go check it out...........

[johnforbes]

George Mason brought up maladministration, but it was rejected as a basis for impeachment by the Framers.

But let's assume Dems have their way and impeach Trump, and that lets Biden win.

So President Biden would instantly face impeachment by Repubs because he bragged about influencing Ukraine to fire a prosecutor probing into the deals of his crooked son Hunter.

Would Dems really like this approach?

[elklindo69]

Johnnie....your approach is null and void because it's a pile of steaming bullshit ....why....because Biden's son was never under investigation.

[johnforbes]

George Mason brought up maladministration, but it was rejected as a basis for impeachment by the Framers.

But let's assume Dems have their way and impeach Trump, and that lets Biden win.

So President Biden would instantly face impeachment by Repubs because he bragged about influencing Ukraine to fire a prosecutor probing into the deals of his crooked son Hunter.

Would Dems really like this approach?

[elklindo69]

Johnnie....your approach is null and void because it's a pile of steaming bullshit ....why....because Biden's son was never under investigation.

[johnforbes]

George Mason brought up maladministration, but it was rejected as a basis for impeachment by the Framers.

But let's assume Dems have their way and impeach Trump, and that lets Biden win.

So President Biden would instantly face impeachment by Repubs because he bragged about influencing Ukraine to fire a prosecutor probing into the deals of his crooked son Hunter.

Would Dems really like this approach?

[elklindo69]

Johnnie....your approach is null and void because it's a pile of steaming bullshit ....why....because Biden's son was never under investigation.

[johnforbes]

Ukraine didn't even know about the money until a month after Trump called, so the quid pro quo argument was absurd.

I realize Elkin never heard of George Mason until I mentioned that name, but even young Elkin could learn a little here instead of leaving this thread as uneducated as he arrived.

George Mason brought up maladministration, but it was rejected as a basis for impeachment by the Framers.

[elklindo69]

What money Johnnie.....whoever said anything about money.

Are you now stepping in your steaming bullshit?

[johnforbes]

Come on, Elkin, stop living down to your reputation of Dumbest Person on the Interwebs.

The foreign aid, the money which the Left was saying was part of a quid pro quo.

However, as usual, the Left is guilty with Biden of what it accuses the Repubs of.

[elklindo69]

I'm pretty sure that Trump doesn’t actually believe the Bidens committed any crimes. He just wants an investigation so he can use it to back his conspiracy theories.

Same with the "new" Hillary email investigation.

So apparently Trump will continue to wipe his ass with the constitution until the democrats stop him from doing so....

[johnforbes]

What would Democrats say if Trump Junior had done what Hunter Biden did?

They freaked out about some silly little 15 minute meeting Don Jr had with that Russian lawyer lady who reported back to Fusion GPS.

What Hunter Biden did was collect 50 thousand per month for sitting on a board.

[elklindo69]

Republicans would have gone ape shit bonkers and burned the WH to the ground if Obama shook down the leader of a foreign nation to get oppo research into the dealing of Trump's kids.........

[johnforbes]

That is precisely what 3 Democrat senators did when they asked Ukraine to investigate Trump.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, no Democrats asked Ukraine to investigate Trump's kids.

You can't just make up stupid shit. We aren't all dimwitted, gullible conservatives here, so we tend to notice that sort of dishonest scumbag partisan made up bullshit.

[johnforbes]

Not his kids, but Trump himself.

Please learn from experience.

Every single time I've made such statements, they always turn out to be accurate.

Don't make a fool of yourself yet again.

[Clownkicker]

elklindo said "...research into the dealing of Trump's kids..."

johnfibs then said "That is precisely what 3 Democrat senators did when they asked Ukraine to investigate Trump."-johnfibs

Dimwit johnny needs to look up the meaning of the word "precisely".

----> Clue for morons: It does not mean "approximately" or "roughly" or "something like".

Why can't conservatives ever bother to learn to speak English? It's no wonder they believe every childish lie out of Trump's mouth. They don't actually understand what he's saying. They just nod their heads and bleat.

[johnforbes]

Pursuant to Clown's advice, I demanded that my staff look up the word "precisely."

They found it means "precisely."

[Clownkicker]

Yes, apparently johnforbes' staff told him PRECISELY what I told him.

The question now is whether johnforbes has learned anything about misusing the word.

Unlikely, I know. You can't teach a dimwitted conservative new tricks.

[johnforbes]

I agree with Clown that the word "precisely" means, if you look it up or don't look it up, means "precisely."

It is wonderful to have such moments of accord.

[Clownkicker]

You "Old Dog" you.

[sillydaddy]

I wish Trump would approve MAGA cowboy hat headbands....

[Clownkicker]

silly, you don't need permission from your cult leader to do something. This is America.

Grow a pair and do what you like, despite the condescending glower from your lord and master.

[Clownkicker]

Wait.... what was I thinking?

I forgot, you're afraid of a lawsuit from the guy.