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#117831
Mueller's testimony is a "disaster" for Democrats and himself. Mueller must be the only person in that room that had not heard of Fusion GPS, even Elk has heard of them. Watching it now, he's weak and elderly often confused and had made several false statements based upon what he said and written in the past.

Another great day for America! Mueller will be facing perjury charges after today.
#117832
Evidently Mueller had no TV in his house, no radio in his car, never read a newspaper, and never knew about computers.

Look, everybody with even a slight awareness of D.C. knew about Fusion GPS, knew Hillary paid for the dossier, knew the dossier was fake, and so on.
#117839
Mueller lied under oath several times and the lies are starting to come out. He should be held to the same standard Flynn was. Mueller said President George H. W. Bush appointed him to his post in Massachusetts, but records show Mueller was appointed to that post by President Ronald Reagan in 1986.

As Mueller himself pointed out when he charged Flynn, the untruth under oath is a lie no matter why the untruth was spoken, it's a felony thus the charges.
#117841
"Mueller said President George H. W. Bush appointed him to his post in Massachusetts, but records show Mueller was appointed to that post by President Ronald Reagan in 1986. "-RealTool

Look at the desperation of these clowns grasping at straws.

By the way, Tool, what "records" show this? Have you been swallowing your handlers' propaganda without question again? :laugh:
#117842
Today was swing 6 by the Democrats and they refuse to let go of the bat! Did you see the look on the Democrats' faces as the hearing neared the end? They looked like they had been at a funeral to long and the body was starting to stink.

By the way Mueller looked and acted like he needed to be hooked up to an IV and put on oxygen. What today told me is that Mueller didn't have the mental power to run that investigation, he struggled to answer even basic questions, he couldn't remember facts, evidence, or even his own conclusions. He didn't even know what was in his own report, his team of Resistance Democrats wrote that report and had senile Mueller sign it.

A MAGA day and the White House is celebrating big time! ;)
#117861
Evidently Mueller was acting like a CEO overseeing a large corporation...
He delegated the job of hiring to that asshole Weissmann who hired his friends
and Mueller also gave Weissmann the task of handling the intorrgations...
I remember reading an article saying Mueller even gave up coming into the office
and would stay away weeks at a time...I think it was true.
Ever notice that whenever the news media showed a photo or vid of Mueller , it was
always the same one?..even after months on the job.. :laugh:
#117866
"The entire second half of the absurd report is devoted to smearing Trump, but they found no evidence to charge him."-johnfibs

Again, a desperate Republican tool tells us the exact opposite of the truth.

johnforbes really needs to watch Mueller's testimony before continuing to make a fool of himself.
#117873
Admittedly, watching Mueller was painful.

This was clearly the Weissman Investigation because Mueller was in outer space, and couldn't even name the president who handed him his first big legal job.

The second part of the Mueller report was garbage because a prosecutor charges or shuts the hell up.

What Mueller did -- really what Weissman and Rhee did -- was toss out a bunch of garbage for political purposes, while admitting they were unable to charge.

Meanwhile, Mueller's entire team knew -- had to know -- that the dossier was utterly fake from the start.

What a disgrace, and a political disaster as liberals like Chuck Todd and Chris Wallace admit.
#117876
"The second part of the Mueller report was garbage because a prosecutor charges or shuts the hell up."-johnfibs

Despite his highly questionable law background, johnforbes still doesn't seem to understand that Mueller was not a "special prosecutor" but was actually a "special counsel" charged with writing a report to the Attorney General. It was not primarily his job to prosecute Trump. But if he had failed to include a report of all the evidence he found about obstruction of justice, he would have been remiss in his duty to the AG. It was the AG's job to decide whether to prosecute Trump. And you see where that gets America.

"What Mueller did -- really what Weissman and Rhee did -- was toss out a bunch of garbage for political purposes, while admitting they were unable to charge."-johnfibs

No, dimwit, they carefully laid out a bunch of undisputed facts. (you know, those things all conservatives call "garbage")
Everyone knew from day 1 that a sitting President could not be charged while in office, so what johnforbes is actually saying is that no President should ever be investigated because they can't ever be charged with a crime. That's just stupid.
Well, unless the guy being investigated is a Democrat, of course. johnforbes never lets his hypocrisy get in the way of his partisan politics.

Meanwhile, even if the quite real dossier is called "fake" by morons who don't know the meaning of the word, (I have tried repeatedly to get him to look up simple words like "socialism" without any results) it is still irrelevant to the facts uncovered about Trump's obstruction. That investigation had nothing to do with the dossier. It was about Trump's daily crimes we all witnessed on TV.

You're welcome, johnny. You can now tear up that worthless piece of toilet paper you have in the frame on your wall.
#117879
Of course, his job was to prosecute Trump.

That is why 19 staff lawyers were all Democrats, and included hyper partisans like Rhee and Weissman, who cried at the Javits Center when Hillary lost.

He asked Mueller to be on the team, and became his deputy, and the investigation began AFTER Weissman was informed that the dossier was fake, that Steele hated Trump, and that Steele asked the State Dept to circulate the fake dossier in order to influence the 2016 election.

Dems pretend to be concerned about election interference, but the fake dossier was intended to do just that.
#117884
johnny, why would Trump's own acting attorney general (a man Trump himself appointed to the job) appoint someone to prosecute the man who hired him? He didn't, dimwit. And Democrats had nothing to do with the appointment either.

Rosenstein simply appointed the most qualified patriotic man of integrity he could find. At the time, Republicans loved it.
But when he started exposing the truth, then Republicans (who all HATE exposure of the truth because it always makes them look bad) suddenly try to smear his good name of lifelong service to America.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves......if it were possible for you to even FEEL shame.
#117888
What "truth" did Mueller expose?

Not one single charge was related to collusion with Russia.

Mueller's failure was in meeting his own standard -- a quiet investigation done with integrity, as he said.

His team of 100 percent partisan Democrats leaked to their media pals, and the public had zero confidence in his biased team.

Mueller too was hopelessly conflicted because he had been turned down for a job by Trump.

I respect Mueller's time as a Marine, but his inquiry was a complete disgrace, and it ignored the real truth that it was based on a pack of lies -- the fake dossier.
#117893
"Not one single charge was related to collusion with Russia."-johnfibs

As your own side is so eager to point out, "collusion" is not a chargeable crime, dummy. It's an ethical crime. So OF COURSE there is not a single legal charge related to collusion.

There WERE charges about conspiracy, money laundering, lying to the FBI, and various other serious charges. But collusion? Why do you keep pointing out the self-evidently irrelevant that no one ever claimed would be charged?

"Mueller's failure was in meeting his own standard -- a quiet investigation done with integrity, as he said."-johnfibs

There was not a single leak from the Mueller investigation. That's "quiet" and that's "integrity." There was not a single public statement by Mueller beyond indictments handed down. That's "qiuiet" and that's "integrity."

If Trump continually made a racket about it all, making a "quiet investigation" impossible, you can't blame Mueller for it. Mueller never even defended himself against Trump's and the Right Wing media's unending and unfair belligerent attacks.

"I respect Mueller's time as a Marine, ..."-johnfibs

No, you don't. Every post you make about him shows an utter lack of respect for all that he's done for this country.

"...I respect Mueller's time as a Marine, but his inquiry was a complete disgrace, and it ignored the real truth that it was based on a pack of lies -- the fake dossier."-johnfibs

The obstruction of justice investigation had NOTHING to do with the quite real dossier, you dishonest scumbag. And look at all the dirt Mueller dug up on that front. Ten cases of obstruction that any patriotic American should be upset by. But Republicans aren't upset in the least, which tells you all you need to know about their hatred for America and the rule of law.


but his inquiry was a complete disgrace, and it ignored the real truth that it was based on a pack of lies -- the fake dossier.
#117900
Oh, be serious.

We all knew 2 yrs ago that Mueller had found no collusion on Trump's part because his team was constantly leaking.

Why?

Because the entire thing was political.

Dems are claiming to respect the rule of law, but they want 12 million illegals to vote.
#117907
Funny, Tool. Now post something relevant to a guy you don't think broke any laws who then obstructed justice.

If he had actually done nothing wrong, he would have let them do their job and prove it. But he didn't "resist" being 'hanged' as you pretend.
He BROKE THE LAW in an attempt to shut down the investigation. And that's a crime, dimwit.

You don't get to justify Trump committing crimes by saying he was innocent, so it's okay for him to commit crimes. :clown:

Conservatives--- they just can't grasp the law. They hold the rule of law in contempt, as RealTool proves to us once again.
#117908
Think if Obama had ever tried to claim that Article II of the Constitution put him above the law and gave him unlimited executive powers.

The conservatards would have impeached Obama in the House and convicted in the Senate before all of the words had even finished coming out of his mouth....
#117916
Trump was angry about the attempt to smear him, and any reasonable person would be.

But Trump did not fire Mueller, and the White House cooperated extensively with Mueller's probe.

Mueller delivered a two-volume report which he clearly didn't write, and the first volume was proper.

The second volume was outside his mandate, and pretended -- for the first time ever, and contrary to DoJ rules -- that a special counsel is supposed to exonerate people.

Weissman and Rhee knew better, and Mueller had to be either senile or dishonest not to know that volume 2 was wrong.
#117930
"Trump was angry about the attempt to smear him, and any reasonable person would be."-johnflubs

But that doesn't justify obstruction of justice, does it, johnny, no matter how "angry" you might be.

"But Trump did not fire Mueller,..."-johnflubs

But that's not for lack of trying, is it, johnny? Why you pretend it's okay for Trump to ask his staff to do his dirty work for him is beyond me. Trump told more than one person to fire Mueller for him. It isn't to Trump's credit that they all refused to obey his instruction.

"The second volume was outside his mandate, ..."-johnfibs

It certainly WASN'T "outside his mandate" dummy. He was authorized to pursue any crimes uncovered by his investigation into Russian meddling and the Trump campaign's collusion. If Trump hadn't repeatedly tried to obstruct the investigation there wouldn't have been any second volume, would there, johnny?

johnny, you have to be either senile or dishonest not to know that volume 2 is right, sadly. You just don't like it because it is damning to your particular partisan politics. You have never refuted a single thing outlined in the second volume, have you. You haven't done it because you can't show where any of it is not factual.
#117942
Oh, come on.

If Mueller's time as a Marine places him forever above criticism, then so does my time.

The truth is that, although I do respect Mueller's time as a Marine, all of us veterans have to perform well in civilian life too.

Mueller ignored the fake dossier at the heart of his probe.

He fretted about Trump Jr's brief meeting with the Russian lawyer, but ignored that lawyer's meeting the day before and day after with Fusion GPS, the source of the fake dossier.

And Mueller took TWO YEARS of time to produce absolutely nothing with his team of NINETEEN DEMOCRATS.
#117953
Trump committed crimes and then lied about it and then obstructed justice and then lied about it and then obstructed justice a lot more times and then lied a lot more times and then conservatards were all like....

OH YEAH!!! I’m down to support this shit show because Trump gets my KKK racism going..............
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