[BilboBagend]

Now that the end of year federal budget cliff is nearing Republicans are now quoting economic theory and studies that predict correctly that if the defense budget is cut $600,000,00.00 then 2,000,000 jobs will be lost. That federal spending does create jobs and leverage job creation.

It's simple they believe real economic theory when it is applied to their favored spending and out of the other side of their mouth say it is incorrect for spending they dislike.

Romney has already spoken out of both sides of his mouth on this subject: 1) he supports fully the Ryan budget, and 2) he can not cut federal spending by $1,000,000,000.00 because it will cut GDP by 5%. Which is it. It's clear it's just about what morons want to hear. Romney knows real economics but has to lie about it to his base. That's the case for all the Republican leadership. Destroy the country for the benefit of the Republican Party is the strategy. It has been well executed for years. It has been working for years. It is the Republican plan for the future.

[namngulfvet]

yap yap yap yap tell us daily Bagfulll of liberal crap what are Obamas qualifications if he has any.

[BilboBagend]

Well, some Republicans finally understand some economics. Others? Still stupid.

[themission1428]

yap yap yap yap tell us daily Bagfulll of liberal crap what are Obamas qualifications if he has any.

Yeah....namngulfvet.....why don't you refute what Bilbo just said. Let's see how good conservatives are with facts.

Prove to the whole world reading this that you, as a conservative, can handle debates based on facts and not emotions.

Your "yap yap yap" comment on a factual thesis is what makes politics here in america go down the drain.

Show to us that conservatives are good with facts and not emotions.

I have a feeling you cannot answer what bilbo just said above because you are not that well informed like him.

Prove it....at least for once...let other conservatives be proud that you can do it by facts....

[themission1428]

yap yap yap yap tell us daily Bagfulll of liberal crap what are Obamas qualifications if he has any.

What can you say about what Bilbo said above that your presidential candidate, the one that will save America, is talking both sides of his mouth on this particular issue ?

Bilbo is giving you facts. Can you answer it by facts as well ? Prove to us that you are well informed by your conservative views and not just hating liberals and Obama. Common...i challenge you being a gulfvet.....lets see what you got brain wise not hate and lies....prove it man....answer it....

[namngulfvet]

themission
Dildo never show or speaks fact when it comes to conservatives issues. Daily Doofus aka Dildo Bagfull has been on this board for the past few years and has never once shown facts about squat. He loves to pull shit out of his ass just to be shit stirring shit bag he is.

[snakeoil]

Ever wonder why the GOP (and Romney especially) is constantly harping on lowering taxes on the rich? Now for the rest of the story.

Romney has a $100 million IRA set up for himself in foreign banks and a $100 million IRA set up for his sons. The reason for depositing your assests in foreign banks is that the money isn't taxed until you bring it back into the generous USA. So...if you lower taxes, you pay less tax on the money you stashed away to avoid taxes in the first place.

BTW-I'm sure that those foreign banks have ONLY invested Romney's money in USA factories and such.

[BilboBagend]

One of the reasons Romney will never release his tax returns is he will need to explain how he accumulated $50,000,000.00 to $100,000,000.00 in a tax preferred retirement savings account with maximum $30,000.00 per year tax free contributions.

Taking the lower number of $50,000,000.00. That is 1600 years of contributions. Ok, that's unfair. Say 90% is growth and 10% is contributions. An amazing unheard of performance for such an account. Then it's only 160 years of maximum contributions.

[Leroy]

Wealth envy is a common trait of the radical liberal.

[BilboBagend]

Wealth Envy

is a dishonest term made up to make an emotional appeal to morons. It is necessary when there is no honest objective arguement to be made by dishonest people.

[namngulfvet]

is a dishonest term made up to make an emotional appeal to morons.

guess this makes you a moron didlo....

[BilboBagend]

We know, as I said, that's the best you have.

[Leroy]

You're right Dildumb, Wealth Envy should just really be called CONTEMPT and GREED. People like you have CONTEMPT and GREED towards those that have more than you do or ever will, and you hate them for it, because inside you really hate yourselves.

Wealth Envy more clearly describes what you zealots suffer from.

[namngulfvet]

Dildo at one time posted as wanderlust a very wealthy retired PE with over 300 acres of property. He claims to have a machine-gun, a nasty pit bull and and sweet fast sports car. yet he condemns those who are rich. funny I never once heard him condemn John VC Kerry for being rich. But then what do I expect out of a hypocrite like Daily douche or wanderdoofus or what ever the fuck nic hes using now.

[themission1428]

You're right Dildumb, Wealth Envy should just really be called CONTEMPT and GREED. People like you have CONTEMPT and GREED towards those that have more than you do or ever will, and you hate them for it, because inside you really hate yourselves.

Wealth Envy more clearly describes what you zealots suffer from.

Does Warren Buffet have contempt and greed over less rich people like him when he says rich people should pay their right amount of taxes ?

Its not the contempt and greed its the system that is not fair and balance. The rich avoids paying taxes by using tax loopholes but profiting from the very system they try to beat.

Don't tell me Jesus Christ had contempt and greed towards those who have more than him. He was against the people who exploited their own and yet don't let the rules apply to them.

You listen to too much right wing talk radio and right wing media propaganda. What you are saying is the same talking points that the republicans and right wing media is spouting when it comes to this issue.

[Leroy]

You're right Dildumb, Wealth Envy should just really be called CONTEMPT and GREED. People like you have CONTEMPT and GREED towards those that have more than you do or ever will, and you hate them for it, because inside you really hate yourselves.

Wealth Envy more clearly describes what you zealots suffer from.

Does Warren Buffet have contempt and greed over less rich people like him when he says rich people should pay their right amount of taxes ?

Its not the contempt and greed its the system that is not fair and balance. The rich avoids paying taxes by using tax loopholes but profiting from the very system they try to beat.

Don't tell me Jesus Christ had contempt and greed towards those who have more than him. He was against the people who exploited their own and yet don't let the rules apply to them.

You listen to too much right wing talk radio and right wing media propaganda. What you are saying is the same talking points that the republicans and right wing media is spouting when it comes to this issue.

Buffett - yep, contempt and greed rule his life now that he's made more money than he could ever use - you can tell this because he's not giving away anything that would lower HIS or his families living standards - his claims are dishonest and misleading, but, as a liberal, you would not see this because you are blinded by your ignorance and refuse to cure your ignorance.

Jesus didn't care about wealth, he let people decide what to give, and he didn't take from people like liberals do.

I don't follow talking points, that's something the weak minded do - I believe what I say and that some thing happen to agree or disagree with some list somewhere means nothing.

[namngulfvet]

DILDO likes to run on talking points proving hes not an independent thinker. Warren Buffet made a big issues about how he paid less taxes then his secretary. Later on we found out how and why. He didnt lie but then he didnt tell the truth either. Hes secretary who is getting paid a salary was getting taxed, while Buffet was living off the company credit card. But did you hear one squeek out of dildo or Odummy or the meatspin. No not one word. Then we have dildo who claims to be a very wealthy retired PE (has yet to prove that) with over 300 acres of land and all these rentals. Has he disclosed his taxes to prove how much he pays. No he continues to flap his gums about Ojackasses talking points. my point here is its ok to be a hypocrite with libs. But then we all knew that didnt we.

[themission1428]

You're right Dildumb, Wealth Envy should just really be called CONTEMPT and GREED. People like you have CONTEMPT and GREED towards those that have more than you do or ever will, and you hate them for it, because inside you really hate yourselves.

Wealth Envy more clearly describes what you zealots suffer from.

Hey Leroy....let me prove to the readers here that you are lying and is brainless...

How can buffet be greedy and envy other people when he wants his secretary to pay less taxes than him ? She earns less money than him and yet she pays more because of republican congress that makes law for the rich to pay less taxes. In return big companies contribute huge money to republicans politicians. Its a quid pro quo. Buffet does not like that.

Second, Jesus Christ was chastised by the rich and elite because He hang out with poor people. Tax cheaters and big businessmen got angry with him because he disturb their business inside the temple. Republicans never live what Jesus did...You see pastors driving mercedes benz, having affairs, hiring male prostitutes and their wives having affairs and they received 200,000 salaries.

Name one national politician republican who practices how Jesus live. Romney is no Jesus Christ. He is worth 250 million dollars, have tax havens in Switzerland, Cayman Islands, He favors corporations.

Obama closely practices the values of Jesus Christ than Romney. Romney and republicans are like those business owners who got mad at Jesus because he chase them out of the temple for doing business there.

Can you prove here that Romney shares the value of Jesus Christ better than Obama with regards to concern to the poor ? Prove it....write your facts here. And i'll expose you to the world that you are lying and twisting facts.

[themission1428]

DILDO likes to run on talking points proving hes not an independent thinker. Warren Buffet made a big issues about how he paid less taxes then his secretary. Later on we found out how and why. He didnt lie but then he didnt tell the truth either. Hes secretary who is getting paid a salary was getting taxed, while Buffet was living off the company credit card. But did you hear one squeek out of dildo or Odummy or the meatspin. No not one word. Then we have dildo who claims to be a very wealthy retired PE (has yet to prove that) with over 300 acres of land and all these rentals. Has he disclosed his taxes to prove how much he pays. No he continues to flap his gums about Ojackasses talking points. my point here is its ok to be a hypocrite with libs. But then we all knew that didnt we.

Namgulfvet....cite your source here that Buffet was living off the company credit card. Post a link or be specific with your source on this statement of yours.

Remember....you said living off the company credit card. Not part of his expenses ok ? you said living off so that means all of his expenses were charge on company credit card.

I am 200 percent sure that either you are lying or twisting facts here. That is why i challenge you to back up your claim because your integrity is at stake. Can't wait to expose you again as lying or dishonest with your facts.

Remember you said Buffet was living off the company credit card. And Buffet said about his secretary that she was paying more than him for years. So your article would prove that Buffet was living on company credit card for YEARS as well.

hahaha....i could smell your lies....remember...many people are reading this post and your credibility is at stake. Also it is a sin to tell a lie and bear false witness against thy neighbor. As a conservative you should know that....you are suppose to be more God fearing than libs right ? Just don't be a hypocrite ok ?

Your turn now....where's your fact ?

[BilboBagend]

You no make up some amazing shit namngulfvet, but that speaks only to your total lack of any credibility.

[namngulfvet]

How does Warren Buffett live on $100,000 salary without ever selling a single share of Berkshire stock?

From 1956 to 1969 Warren Buffett managed the Buffett partnership which gave him 25% of the profits after a 6% guaranteed return to his partners. With that arrangement Warren was able to generate $25 million in net worth, most of which was invested in Berkshire Hathaway. However Mr. Buffett kept 1% of his money outside of Berkshire. That portfolio estimated at $400 million generates over $40 million per year in annual income. Which is how he and his family affords to fly as many as 300 hours per year on wholly owned subsidiary NetJets planes. As a side note, Warren personally pays for the use of the jet.

http://www.robertpmiles.com/faq.html

Buffett stated that he only paid 19% of his income for 2006 ($48.1 million) in total federal taxes (due to their being from dividends & capital gains), while his employees paid 33% of theirs, despite making much less money.[138] “How can this be fair?” Buffett asked, regarding how little he pays in taxes compared to his employees. "How can this be right?" He also added:

"There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett

[namngulfvet]

Now dildo tell me he isnt pulling out his credit card to live off of. Im sure he isnt carrying around a 100 grand in cash you stupid fucking doper. You are the most ignorant person on the face of this planet dilrod.

[BilboBagend]

LOL, keep it up moron. You tell everybody just how corrupt and irrational you are with every post.

[themission1428]

How does Warren Buffett live on $100,000 salary without ever selling a single share of Berkshire stock?

From 1956 to 1969 Warren Buffett managed the Buffett partnership which gave him 25% of the profits after a 6% guaranteed return to his partners. With that arrangement Warren was able to generate $25 million in net worth, most of which was invested in Berkshire Hathaway. However Mr. Buffett kept 1% of his money outside of Berkshire. That portfolio estimated at $400 million generates over $40 million per year in annual income. Which is how he and his family affords to fly as many as 300 hours per year on wholly owned subsidiary NetJets planes. As a side note, Warren personally pays for the use of the jet.

http://www.robertpmiles.com/faq.html

Buffett stated that he only paid 19% of his income for 2006 ($48.1 million) in total federal taxes (due to their being from dividends & capital gains), while his employees paid 33% of theirs, despite making much less money.[138] “How can this be fair?” Buffett asked, regarding how little he pays in taxes compared to his employees. "How can this be right?" He also added:

"There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett

Namgulfvet you are twisting facts again. You gotta be kidding me when this is your source ???? lol....how low can you go ?

1) The article says 1956 to 1969 not 2006 to 2012. Laws have changed from 1956 to 2012 specially that Congress is made up by republicans paid and bought for by lobbyist oil, gas, big pharma, halliburton and other huge companies.

Dude....1956 ? Even Newt Gingrich is already on his 4th wife leaving the previous ones who were suffering from cancer or cheating on others with an intern.

2) He earns $100,000.00 in salary per year and lives in Nebraska. The cost of living in Nebraska is not the same as New York. Plus the fact that Buffet is a very frugal person. His car is old, does not wear fashion designer clothes and even doesn't have a horse like Mitt Romney. Romney who at the same time charges tax payers of $15,000.00 as transportation cost to transport his horse.

Buffet is a billionaire and Romney is only a millionaire. Yet Buffet is more frugal than Romney. Of course, Buffet is just going to have more money.

Dude...it's economics. If you live way below your means then you are way off.

3) He makes more money from not paying taxes on dividends and capital gains tax. This he is against and would like to be repelled so that millionaire like him can pay more in taxes.

This exemption from not paying tax on dividends and capital gains tax was passed by the Bush Administration. Same administration who started the Fast and Furious. This capital and gains tax was lobbied by the rich people so they don't need to pay taxes and not get in jail. Because how can you be in jail if you are following the law ? So they made up the law by lobbying republicans and Bush and Cheney.

Namgulfvet you are lying again. At the very least twisting information. The way you let it sound Buffet was really living off the company credit card. But when your source are dissected you always get caught twisting it or lying.

Can't you be honest at least once in your ideology ? Why do you have to lie to show your hate ?