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By johnforbes
#99525
So it appears that the FBI (translation: the taxpayer) also paid for this fake memo. Hillary paid something like 12 million toward it, but it is even worse that taxpayers partly funded this fake and partisan dossier.

This was used dishonestly to wiretap Trump for political reasons.

This is just what the KGB, or the secret police in some Banana Republic, would do.
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By RealJustme
#99527
It also discloses that the FBI Deputy Director testified before Congress that without the "Clinton" dossier, there would have been no justification for surveillance on the Trump campaign. That means Mueller's whole investigation took place based upon an illegal surveillance warrant and a fake "Clinton" dossier.

CNN is calling it an outrage that sensitive FBI information was released and that Mueller should be allowed to continue his investigation of Trump and any inquiry into the FBI and DOJ be put on hold until Mueller's investigation is completed and action take against those involved and possible obstruction of justice charges brought against Trump.

Pass the popcorn
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By namngulfvet
#99528
RealJustme wrote:It also discloses that the FBI Deputy Director testified before Congress that without the "Clinton" dossier, there would have been no justification for surveillance on the Trump campaign. That means Mueller's whole investigation took place based upon an illegal surveillance warrant and a fake "Clinton" dossier.

CNN is calling it an outrage that sensitive FBI information was released and that Mueller should be allowed to continue his investigation of Trump and any inquiry into the FBI and DOJ be put on hold until Mueller's investigation is completed and action take against those involved and possible obstruction of justice charges brought against Trump.

Pass the popcorn
CNN what a fucking joke
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By RealJustme
#99529
House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi Democrats expressed deep concern that Republicans will try and use the contents of the memo to undermine the credibility of the FBI and DOJ as Mueller investigates Russian election meddling and any ties to Russia.
No shit!

In other words, so what if the investigation of Trump is based upon fake information and unlawful acts by the FBI and DOJ, we've only had 11 months to find something using unlawful surveillances, we need to keep the investigation going until we can find something against Trump. She wants to keep the unlawful government acts going.

If Mueller had any ethics he would step forward and say the whole investigation is tainted and should never had been opened, therefor he's done.
By Intrepid
#99534
My understanding is that the FISA judge that issued the warrant can cause the applicants to appear in his court to show cause why they falsified the application or withheld information on how the fake dossier was obtained. And unless he's also in the bag, he can hold the applicants in contempt and proceed with any other legal penalties as he sees fit.

We shall see.
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By RealJustme
#99536
WOW, Kelly summed it up very well.

"What we now know is, surveillance was conducted on the person standing in Clinton's way from becoming President by the FBI, with the blessing of the DOJ based upon a report funded by the Clinton campaign and produced by a man who openly declared that Trump must be stopped from becoming President."
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By RealJustme
#99537
My understanding is that the FISA judge that issued the warrant can cause the applicants to appear in his court to show cause why they falsified the application or withheld information on how the fake dossier was obtained.
Yep, there is more than enough grounds for Franks hearings, every judge that was used as democratic tools should be angry and call for the hearings. This may not happen since it appears the FBI and DOJ went judge hunting for those most loyal to the Democratic party to get the warrants. Most were special appointments by Obama. It only makes sense that Obama would stuff the federal courts in D.C. with his minions.

We're finding out where that 800 Billion in Obama stimulus money in his first year went and it wasn't to shovel ready jobs. They can only account for 40 Billion of it.
By johnforbes
#99540
Apparently the judge they used was an Obama appointee who was Hispanic.

Hopefully, he was lied to by the folks bringing in the applicaation for a warrant to wiretap.

We already have too many corrupt people without adding another.
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By RealJustme
#99541
Apparently the judge they used was an Obama appointee who was Hispanic.

Hopefully, he was lied to by the folks bringing in the applicaation for a warrant to wiretap.
Nope, turns out he didn't ask for the source of the information of if it had been vetted, which has lawyers and judges scratching their head, he'll claim he was just extremely careless when granting the warrants.
By Clownkicker
#99548
You clowns just don't get it. The 'Dossier', true or not, isn't even relevant to the Mueller investigation.

The trigger for the investigation was George Popadopoulos, not Carter Page.

So any warrant against Page, even if it were shown to be illegal somehow (which it won't be) wouldn't change a thing about the validity of Mueller's investigation.

You guys really need to turn off Hannity and FOXnews. They are not your friends. They're making you look like frenetic fools.
Or in RealTool's lingo, you're all having meltdowns from watching a FOX TV reality show.
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By namngulfvet
#99551
You clowns just don't get it. The 'Dossier', true or not, isn't even relevant to the Mueller investigation.
Says Clown our self appointed know it all Attorney..

Stupid fuck. If its based on the false information that leads back to this Memo.. Muellers investigation is dead..
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By RealJustme
#99569
There was collusion with foreigners to influence the election and that is a fact that doesn't even require an investigation.
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By tvd
#99572
All this corruption on behalf of HRC. Armies of behind the scenes schemers plotting to take down Trump, to ensure her victory.
All the money spent.
All the crimes committed.

And she STILL couldn't win.....

LOL
By Clownkicker
#99577
^^^^^ Another simplistic partisan conservatard cartoon of made up stupid shit for dummies. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

What else can you do when you are unable to understand facts and reason and can only FEEL something is terribly wrong in your unfathomable world? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
By johnforbes
#99615
It isn't just a feeling when high FBI officials knowingly used a fake dossier to spy on a presidential candidate.

And wasn't it Rosenstein who signed the FOURTH FISA application just last April or May -- wiretapping a sitting president for pure political reasons.

The cynicism was breathtaking.

And Chris, other than letting McCabe retire on full pension, what has he done to clean house?

Today, Strozok and Page are sitting in Personnel doing nothing and getting paid, aren't they?
By elklindo69
#99620
johnforbes wrote:It isn't just a feeling when high FBI officials knowingly used a fake dossier to spy on a presidential candidate.
That's total and utter bullshit Johnnie.

You don't know if that's true. The information used to obtain the FISA warrants haven't been made public or even been made available to the congress.
By johnforbes
#99622
Actually, the sad thing is that it is true.

Steele was fired as a source/consultant for the FBI due to unreliability.

He shopped the fake dossier around, and finally Mother Jones (to the Left of Marx) and Buzzfeed had interest.

The FBI had the dossier checked apparently, but found it had only "minimal" accuracy.

Then it was used over and over -- and yes, over the 3rd time and again the 4th time last April or May -- as the main basis for the FISA warrant to wiretap the Trump campaign/transition/presidency.

McCabe apparently often voiced his dislike of Trump in meetings; it was no secret.

These are FBI people, for heaven's sake, not ordinary citizens.

They knew who cobbled together the fake dossier, knew it was fake, knew the partisan bias of Steele, and knew it was their "insurance policy" as Strzok said.

The intel apparatus of one president (Obama) was used to help elect Hillary and, failing that, to derail Trump.
By elklindo69
#99640
Bullshit Johnnie....

The Carter Page investigation was triggered because he bragged that he was a Russian advisor and the findings of the dossier have already been verified.

Additionally the FISA warrant for Page was renewed three time...which means the information for the original warrant was corroborated. And at that point the dossier becomes irrelevant.
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By RealJustme
#99641
That's total and utter bullshit Johnnie.

You don't know if that's true. The information used to obtain the FISA warrants haven't been made public or even been made available to the congress.
McCabe who was the Acting Director of the FBI and a far left Democrat testified under oath to Congress that without the Hillary funded dossier by Christopher Steele, the FBI would have never even sought to obtain FISA warrants.

Mueller's whole investigation has been a waste of tax payer's money and abuse of power through deception and corruption. If he was a real man he would wash his hands of the whole matter.
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By namngulfvet
#99644
elklindo69 wrote:Bullshit Johnnie....

The Carter Page investigation was triggered because he bragged that he was a Russian advisor and the findings of the dossier have already been verified.

Additionally the FISA warrant for Page was renewed three time...which means the information for the original warrant was corroborated. And at that point the dossier becomes irrelevant.
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By Clownkicker
#99645
"McCabe who was the Acting Director of the FBI and a far left Democrat..."RealStool

More made up stupid shit from The Tool.
McCabe is a lifelong Republican and voted in the Republican primary in 2016.

"...testified under oath to Congress that without the Hillary funded dossier by Christopher Steele, the FBI would have never even sought to obtain FISA warrants. "-RealStool

More made up stupid shit from RealTool
It never happened.

Why is it you dimwitted partisan hacks can't post without just making up stupid shit? :shock:
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