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By snakeoil
#95889
Here's a hot topic for you to chew on, the seemingly insane worship of the flag of The Confederacy. I live just below the Mason-Dixon Line and, at times, I see more Confederate flags than US flags. I consider this to be an insult to our country and our flag. A few thoughts on this:

a. I invite anyone who cherishes the Confederate flag to go to any country in the world and fly the flag of the rebels of that country. Call me in a few days and let me know how that turns out. Saudi Arabia is tolerable this time of year, go fly the ISIS flag in the capital.

b. I feel that the reasons most fly the Confederate flag is because of racism, the need to fit in, the need to be different or because of perceived slights by our government.

c. Many claim that the Civil War was not fought over slavery but over state's rights. Please reread your history books. From Wikipedia:
The causes of secession were complex and have been controversial since the war began, but most academic scholars identify slavery as a central cause of the war. James C. Bradford wrote that the issue has been further complicated by historical revisionists, who have tried to offer a variety of reasons for the war.[23] Slavery was the central source of escalating political tension in the 1850s. The Republican Party was determined to prevent any spread of slavery, and many Southern leaders had threatened secession if the Republican candidate, Lincoln, won the 1860 election. After Lincoln won many Southern leaders felt that disunion had become their only option, because they thought that they were losing representation, which would hamper their ability to promote pro-slavery acts and policies.[24][25]
d. Those embracing the Confederate flag seemingly ignore or are oblivious to the impact the Civil War had on the health of the country.
The war resulted in at least 1,030,000 casualties (3 percent of the population), including about 620,000 soldier deaths—two-thirds by disease, and 50,000 civilians.[11] Binghamton University historian J. David Hacker believes the number of soldier deaths was approximately 750,000, 20 percent higher than traditionally estimated, and possibly as high as 850,000.[20][216] The war accounted for more American deaths than in all other U.S. wars combined.[217]
One in thirteen veterans were amputees.
Remains of both sides were reinterred.
National cemetery in Andersonville, GA.

Based on 1860 census figures, 8 percent of all white males aged 13 to 43 died in the war, including 6 percent in the North and 18 percent in the South.[218][219] About 56,000 soldiers died in prison camps during the War.[220] An estimated 60,000 men lost limbs in the war.[221]

Union army dead, amounting to 15 percent of the over two million who served, was broken down as follows:[6]

110,070 killed in action (67,000) or died of wounds (43,000).
199,790 died of disease (75 percent was due to the war, the remainder would have occurred in civilian life anyway)
24,866 died in Confederate prison camps
9,058 killed by accidents or drowning
15,741 other/unknown deaths
359,528 total dead

In addition there were 4,523 deaths in the Navy (2,112 in battle) and 460 in the Marines (148 in battle).[
Please note that the casualties were more than in all of the other US wars combined.
By sillydaddy
#95898
snake ..If the Civil War had been fought to free the niggers....then how come niggers today live
like slaves in the big cities of the precious and righteous North? :o :o
By johnforbes
#95908
Wikipedia is a liberal site.

Beyond that, it is not authoritative whether one happens to agree or disagree with it on some topic.

It is simplistic to claim the Civil War was fought over slavery. Like any war, that one involved many moving parts.

If states don't have rights, why is California a sanctuary state -- a haven for illegal immigrants breaking federal law?
By Clownkicker
#95916
johnny, it isn't "simplistic" to repeat the claims of the states who seceded. They are the ones who claimed the war was about slavery. I take them at their published word.

You are simply parading your ignorance of the motivations the states themselves gave for the war.
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By RealJustme
#95918
I invite anyone who cherishes the Confederate flag to go to any country in the world and fly the flag of the rebels of that country. Call me in a few days and let me know how that turns out. Saudi Arabia is tolerable this time of year, go fly the ISIS flag in the capital.
The Saudi's will also arrest if you if you have a bible. This stupid intolerance and hatred has to stop. I don't have a confederate flag but if someone else wants to have one who am I to say they can't have it? Libtards are assholes!
By Intrepid
#95927
They are the ones who claimed the war was about slavery. I take them at their published word.
-Comrade Homo AssClown Loser Marxist Tool.

JA-SUS Crissus...what a delusional tool.
Comrade Homo AssClown Loser Marxist Tool, being a recipient of the benefits of the Civil War should know that the inbred, grits slurping, cousin fucking, cornpone chomping, ter-bakky chewing southern redneck, some of whom to this day refuse to possess a five dollar bill because it bears an image of Lincoln (I am not kidding you) still refer to that conflict as, "The war of Northern Aggression."
But he's a st000pid niggah so what do you expect?
By snakeoil
#95936
The Saudi's will also arrest if you if you have a bible. This stupid intolerance and hatred has to stop. I don't have a confederate flag but if someone else wants to have one who am I to say they can't have it? Libtards are assholes!
Justme...That's terrible! Arresting someone for carrying the book of Jewish fairy tales.
By snakeoil
#95939
Wikipedia is a liberal site.
I had a salad for lunch yesterday and I'm sure that the salad was a liberal salad. My dog is a liberal too, he hasn't had a job in years.
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