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#91693
Well, who would have thought, no team wants Kaepernick, he played the race card and it didn't work, he still can't get a job playing football. He finally gets it and says he's made his point and will now stand and promises that no more using his position to protest racist America. He also promised no more socks while in uniform with pigs wearing cop hats.

What he doesn't get is, he's a losing quarterback that offended fans with his protests and created division among team members, he has NOTING but his afro to offer. Like a typical libtard he feels none of that matters because he's black.
#91696
No, Tool, "none of that matters" BECAUSE HE'S A FUCKING FOOTBALL PLAYER, YOU DIMWIT.
Nobody cares what he thinks. And nobody cares whether or not he plays football.

You clowns will desperately dredge up anything, even ancient non-news, to distract from the failures of Republicans in Congress and the White House, won't you.
#91731
I absolutely can defend the right of anyone to take a knee during the National Anthem, sillydummy.
You're just making up stupid shit like Realtool and johnforbes now.
People can do anything they want during the Anthem. It's still a free country, to some extent.


That right is absolute. The Constitution guarantees it. It protects me against goose-stepping conformists who insist I behave the same way they do just because they say I should. They make up some stupid rule out of thin air and then try to cram it down everyone's throats.

Well fuck you.

When I say "who cares?" or "nobody cares" about Kaepernick, it's because nobody cares about Kaepernik, dimwit, not even the tools making a big deal about him. They're tools being manipulated by their handlers to distract from the real news of the day.

If you don't like watching people exercise their inherent human rights on TV, then turn off your friggin TV.
If you like to watch football, then get over yourself and watch football. Your opinion of whether some guy stands up or sits down or kneels at some particular time is just your own idiocy granting silly importance to your prejudices.
There's no Federal law about it and there's no NFL rule about it. It's all in your heads.

You clowns keep saying you don't care about what Al Gore says and you ignore him. But for some reason you shit your pants over what a nobody football player says and does. :lol:
#91756
You're the one calling those with non-conforming ideations "fake" Republicans, johnny.

If it's not actually what the Right Wing wants, then it's at least what dishonest hypocrites like you want.
Stop projecting your own dishonest failings into the Left Wing.
#91785
And what does campaigning on repealing Obamacare have to do with them holding a different opinion on what's best for their constituencies and not voting for a bill that didn't actually repeal Obamacare?

You're the one calling those with non-conforming ideations "fake" Republicans because they didn't vote for a terrible bill that their party leader didn't even like.
If anything, you should be applauding them for keeping their promises and voting against a bill that didn't actually repeal Obamacare.
#91793
Clown it has been only six months since Trump took office.....
Obama took office in January, 2009 and after months of revisions,
finally signed Obamacare into law in March, 2010....

The Left laughingly loves to point out that it has not been done...to hide their fear that it will get done! :o :o
#91794
sillydaddy, you just made the case for why the Republican 'plan' is so terrible. They only spent six months doing a difficult job that took Obama and Democrats 18 months of hard work to do.

Republicans have been voting on terrible bills after only a few weeks of secret meetings on a subject that actually takes months of work and hearings to cobble together competently. Obama worked hard for months on the ACA.
Trump was off at a golf tournament instead of being in D.C. hustling votes like a real President would do.

"The Left" has no fear that "it" will get done. They would love "it" to get done.
It has a fear that another truly horrific bill like the previous bills will get done.
Unfortunately, Trump and the Republicans are too lazy to actually do the work on a realistic bill.

Fortunately, Trump and the Republicans are lazy and so desperate for their first "win" that they are going to move on to something more suited to their meager talents.
#91823
Procedure paves the way to substance.

The law works that way.

Alas, the Senate too.

It took Obama 14 months to ram through Obamacare. Hillary's health plan failed.

Health care legislation is a high-failure potential endeavor, no matter what party you are in.

Obamacare today is a failure.
#91843
Yes, "at all" dimwit.

You're saying they should have voted for the phony "skinny bill" in the hopes that they would find out what was in the actual health care bill at some point in the future.

The skinny bill was NEVER a serious proposal. McConnell proved it with Ryan.
It was cynical politics at the very worst I have ever seen. No one should condone that sort of nonsense by voting for it.

And nothing is stopping Republicans from pursuing a serious bill now. But you still want to blame the only three Republicans who apparently give a damn about people. You're still pretending that the three are somehow stopping health care revision. They aren't. They have done nothing to stop "repeal and replace." It could be done by next year if Republicans cared to do it.
Instead of dishonestly blaming them, you should be blaming those who are too lazy to do the hard work of producing a serious bill. They could have had an open process from the start and not wasted six months. It's on them.

Incidentally, didn't you notice that two of the three Republicans who voted against it were terminally sick themselves?
Is that what it takes to get the horror of taking away insurance from millions of people through the skulls of Republicans? A terminal diagnosis?
When will Republicans grasp the fact that we are ALL terminal?
#91844
You still are not getting what I said.

Procedure precedes substance.

The skinny thing was silly, of course, but it was the only means available to get to substance.

If you have an appeal but are procedurally too late you may well have slumbered on your rights and may never get to the meat (the substance).

You do procedure first -- the right tribunal, the right timeframe, etc.

Is it nutty how the Senate functions? Sure.
#91851
No, I get exactly what you said, and I demonstrated it by what I said.

What you aren't getting is that they were never "procedurally too late" so that isn't an excuse.
They had, and have, months to produce something serious and get it into the legislative queue. They could have started working on it five years ago, but they didn't. They could have started working on it six months ago, but they didn't.
Nothing is stopping them now.

There was never any need for Republicans to put up the "skinny bill" for a vote besides political dishonesty, laziness, and cruelty.
And your pleading gross incompetence by the Republicans ("they were "procedurally too late") is not a justification for voting for a horrific bill.
#91864
Another President would have said that it was going to take the rest of this term and the next to
repeal and replace Obamacare......that would have been fine with the Republicans and fine with
the Democrats as well...in the meantime it would remain a promise still to be kept..
But they never...and I do mean never....counted on Trump... :o :lol:
#91899
Clown, you are still misunderstanding what I said.

I gave lateness as an example, not the reason here.

Repubs have been saying for 7 years they want to repeal, and then they went to repeal and replace.

Should they have long ago come up with some bill so sound it could have garnered support from even fake Repubs like McCain?

Hell yeah.
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