[elklindo69]

Forty-five States Refuse to Give Voter Data to Trump Panel

Forty-five states and the District of Columbia are mounting a bipartisan rebellion against President Donald Trump’s commission on vote fraud by either declining to release any of the requested data or by providing only limited information to the panel.

The Presidential Advisory Commission on Voter Integrity's request for extensive personal information about voters has ignited a firestorm in many states, including from both Republican and Democrat officials who oversee elections.

The panel is seeking "dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information."

Nineteen states — both red and blue — and D.C. are flat-out refusing to comply with the request, citing privacy concerns and some claiming the 15-member vote fraud panel is politically-motivated.

[Intrepid]

Bottom line:

Killery Rotten Clinton is not President.

[RealJustme]

Nineteen states — both red and blue — and D.C. are flat-out refusing to comply with the request, citing privacy concerns.

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No one really believes the federal government doesn't already have the names, dates of birth and social security numbers of people, the federal government issues the social security numbers, not the States so it's not privacy concerns, it's about concealing who voted. They know checking who registered to vote against federal records would disclose that every State registered people to vote who shouldn't have been registered. Everyone knows it would disclose voter fraud is YUGE and require drastic changes to fix. Hillary claims the voting was rigged but is oddly against reviewing the data to determine if there was voter fraud.

No one wants to rock the boat but Trump is going to do just that. I'm just thrilled that even though there was massive voter fraud Trump still won.

[sillydaddy]

The President believes there may have been voter fraud and
at same time the Russian investigation commission has the INTEL Agencies saying the Russian "meddled"
with the election...and their word alone is being taken as the only "proof". BUT

With their actions..the states are now, in effect..
contradicting the Intel agencies' claim the Russians messed with the election.. :o :o

[RealJustme]

Top it off Democrats are claiming Russia interfered in the election by hacking into the DNC's server but are refusing to allow the commission investigating the hacking to access the server. The server is the key to the hacking but it's off limits to the investigators. How in the hell can they conduct a real investigation of the hacking without examing the key piece of evidence?

[sillydaddy]

Jeffery Lord, Trump supporter. brought that up on CNN and made the same
assessment....to which John Berman could only say, " Moving on to our next story..." :lol: :lol: :lol:

[johnforbes]

There has never been any serious attention given to the DNC's claim of hacking, or why the DNC refused to turn over its servers/computers to the FBI.

Or at least allow their forensic experts to examine them with DNC personnel.

Comey should have made a very big stink about this.

[Dogzilla]

There has never been any serious attention given to tRumpf not turning over his tax returns, or why he met with the Russians so many times.

[johnforbes]

Come on, you want to read financial disclosures to look for conflicts of interest.

They are not found on tax returns.

Nobody is required to reveal tax returns, and the only reason the Left Wing wants Trump's returns is for more ammo with which to attack him.

The Left is so obviously dishonest about NOT wanting to root out corruption that Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch NEVER investigated the biggest corruption in U.S. history -- the Clinton Foundation.

[Dogzilla]

The biggest corruption in history is going on right now. tRumpf and his band of merry criminals is bleeding us dry.....on many levels.

[Intrepid]

Name a few of those levels Dogshit.
You can't because all you do is listen to Madcow's talking points and you, especially YOU never think for yourself about anything.

By the way how is that 25th Ammendment thing going?
And any word on impeachment ?

[Dogzilla]

I watch Maddow about the same amount that I watch Fox. And I've learned to question everything that is said, and the possible reasons for saying it. Can you say the same?

For most of my information, I simply watch and listen to what Donnie himself says and does. He is making a mess at every move. That he is doing so....at home and abroad....is clearly visible for anyone who is interested in the truth. And no.....Alt facts are not real facts.

[johnforbes]

Anybody who consumes CNN and NBC and the usual liberal newspapers would indeed think Trump was failing.

Actually, though, he has done a great job, although he needs to light a fire under hacks like McConnell.

[Clownkicker]

No, Trump hasn't done a "great job," johnny. Even Republicans acknowledge that. That's why they are avoiding facing their constituencies at home.

Trump doesn't know how to lead, he only knows how to dictate, which is why he won't be able to "light a fire" under guys like McConnell.
They have no respect for Trump. There is nothing Trump can do to them and he has nothing to offer them.

Guys like McConnell are playing sloppy chess while Trump is playing Chutes and Ladders.

[sillydaddy]

I like to see CNN for the entertainment value only......they always make sure to do a disclaimer on every story, so they can have an out if they get sued for the bullshit they report....then
Watch Jim Acosta at the WH briefings "running around banging into walls"...reminds me of Curly from the Three Stoogies....Watch him ask questions and when he does hear the answer he wants , he starts lecturing the
Press Secretary.. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[sillydaddy]

It's not lack of respect from the Demos and some of the Reps.....it's fear...fear because the President is slowly draining the swamp...they are being exposed, the Demos for the obstructionism and those Reps for their weakness... :o :o

[Intrepid]

As I said Dogshit, you can't name a single thing.
You are supposed to be educated, be capable of intelligent thought and you fail every time.

You see why I am so disgusted with the public school system?
With people like you infecting the minds of our kids there is no hope except for private schools.

[Dogzilla]

I didn't teach enough hate and racism for ya, eh?

[sillydaddy]

Well...Dog, at least, it would have been something.. :o :o

[Clownkicker]

Meanwhile, we have another 'Pence Faceplant' revelation; MIKE PENCE CAN'T READ!

http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/07/mike ... pment.html


What an arrogant asshole.
He's in a clean room, fer cripes sake, and he's touching stuff against explicit orders not to.
Apparently Pence doesn't know there are oils, acids, and bacteria on his skin that can damage critical metals.
But I'm sure it couldn't has cost more than a million or two.

[tvd]

I see you get your info from erroneous sources, but he is NOT in a clean room.

NOT IN A CLEAN ROOM.

There are multiple ppl there in business suits. If in a clean room, everyone would have to be suited up in the proper clean room attire...a lint free white coverall, with booties over their shoes and hair and face coverings.
NASA does not do tours thru clean rooms.

Reality of the situation is this:
They were in a normal visitor viewing area. The part in question was most likely a downlevel version of the part in use i.e. a demo part, and put out there for ppl to look at. The sign is most likely there to prevent the display part from getting all smudged up from ppl touching it, and to keep from having to clean the demo part every day.
It is on a display pedestal "fer cripes sake" and NASA doesn't put critical parts out on display that can be ruined simply by touching....get real "fer cripes sake".

So it is unlikely that any "million or two" was lost at all.

Now before you go off and find some link that contradicts me....and post it up as irrefutable proof....remember that I worked out there, I know the daily procedures, and I am far more qualified than YOU to even discuss the technical side of the space program. I have had my hands ON Space Shuttle heat shield tiles, the shuttle engine transport shields, and hands ON SSME parts of all kinds.

Now Google up something on this subject that you know nothing about.

[tvd]

By the way, Orion is built by Lockheed Martin, so any critical, sensitive parts and associated "clean rooms" will be at a Lockheed Martin facility...not at KSC.

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/ssc/orion-eft1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Clownkicker]

It figures, tvdunderhead misses the point entirely.

tvdolt claims to have worked in the field and yet he's here essentially saying it's perfectly okay that someone disregards written instructions in a facility where high-dollar equipment is sitting to be viewed.
He gets sidetracked on my sarcastic jokes and ignores the problem. Yes, he's a Trump supporter.

Dimwit, I'm perfectly aware that all this probably means is someone is going to have to thoroughly clean the parts he touched. It shouldn't cost more than a few thousand dollars.
But it could have been much more critical, and Pence wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
He decided he knew better than anyone else what he could and couldn't touch. Like I said, he's an arrogant asshole.

I say this because I have experienced that kind of person many times in my work. It cost me a lot of money and time undoing the damage some curious asshole caused after explicit instructions not to touch anything I was working on.
ONE LIGHT TOUCH can sometimes send a part tumbling, endangering those below and destroying a one-off part, making it necessary to manufacture another from scratch, including the machine set-ups. Even something intentionally on display can be knocked over. Shit happens.

But none of this really matters. The point is, Pence has written instructions right in front of him in a space facility and he ignores them.
But no, tvd "worked out there, I know the daily procedures, and I am far more qualified than ME to even discuss the technical side" and he doesn't give a rat's ass. He knows expensive shit happens but he still makes excuses for Pence instead. That's because he's as big an asshole as Pence is. Pence is his guy so he can do whatever the hell he wants. It's the same way every asshole feels about the world around him. It's symptomatic of the Trump administration.

Anyone who actually worked in such a place would know that ignorant looky-loos are an expensive chronic nightmare to be coped with because in one way or another they are writing the checks. (Even if it's just some sort of "good will" tour) If tvd was an honest person who actually built anything in his life, he would have verbally slapped Pence silly for his stupidity and self-importance instead of making excuses for his childish lack of impulse-control.

[johnforbes]

There are loud people planted by Soros at town hall meetings.

Don't confuse that with reality.

Trump is doing fine, but CNN and NBC and ABC et al. have just surrendered any pretense of "journalism" in favor of partisan Left Wing hate.

[tvd]

Meanwhile, we have another 'Pence Faceplant' revelation; MIKE PENCE CAN'T READ!

http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/07/mike ... pment.html


What an arrogant asshole.
He's in a clean room, fer cripes sake, and he's touching stuff against explicit orders not to.
Apparently Pence doesn't know there are oils, acids, and bacteria on his skin that can damage critical metals.
But I'm sure it couldn't has cost more than a million or two.

This is what YOU wrote fucktard. You wrote it.
I addressed it.
Your link to the nymag article that YOU posted is full of false statements.

When you try to prove something, try to use factual sources, FUCKTARD.

[tvd]

Oh yeah...the problem of cleaning that part still remains....

Clown, why don't you volunteer to clean it? You could use the same bottle of 409 and roll of paper towels that you use in your day job of cleaning the peep show private booths.

[Clownkicker]

Jesus H. Chrisis, who's the Mr. Know-it-all now? :lol:

Maybe you should have googled it or something before you opened your big fat mouth, tvdunce?

The Orion clean room is not one of those white-suit, everyone-in-a-walking-garbage-bag rooms, Mr. I-know-everything-there-is-to-know-about NASA.
https://www.nasa.gov/exploration/system ... nroom.html

It's in a warehouse with all sorts of dust and street clothes about.
"The demands of a clean room in the VAB are not nearly as strict as those in the Operations and Checkout Building hangar where the Orion capsule will be built. In fact, the technicians in the O&C are already working with a similar setup to build the capsule components into a working spacecraft. Because even a slight contaminant can create problems inside a capsule, the O&C's entire high bay is kept to high cleanliness standards with the area around Orion given an extra layer of protection.

In the VAB, the requirement is to keep visible contaminants, such as specks of dirt and dust, off the outside of the capsule.

It may not sound like a big deal for something that will be exposed to space, but an earthly bit of pollen or sand or even a human hair can confuse a star tracker, lead to a build up around an exhaust port or block a thruster, for example."-NASA

What I said is correct, Pence was in a "temporary clean room" which is open to a larger dust-filled warehouse.
The moving air is what protects its contents.


As to the "But I'm sure it couldn't has cost more than a million or two." It's a hyperbolic joke, you imbecile.
I already explained it to you. No intelligent person would think it cost $2 million to clean a chunk of metal, fer fuck's sake. The line is so obviously stupid it is to make the point that whatever it costs to clean again, it's too much just so some dumbfuck asshole can think he's above the rest of humanity.

That's the trouble when I don't use emoticons to spell it out for you clowns.
I expect some smidgen of intelligence out of you morons, but I never get any.
(By the way, it DIDN'T cost more than a million or two to clean, did it, dummy? :lol: )


And still you can't comment on Pence's stupid arrogance, Mr. "I Fucking Worked At NASA". :lol:

[johnforbes]

During his towel era in Frisco, Clown touched many things he shouldn't have.

[tvd]

Go "Clean Room" your peep show booths.

[Clownkicker]

See, tvd, you aren't a man.
You can't just admit when you're wrong. You refuse to educate yourself and ridicule me because I try to educate myself.

You're actually mad at me because I'm right, and that's just a mental illness.

[johnforbes]

I applaud Clownslacker's efforts to educate himself.

However, in his sad case, the task is enormous.

[Clownkicker]

It IS an enormous task in my case, johnny.

It's also an enormous task in your case. You're just too stupid to understand it.

Unfortunately, it's an impossible task in tvd's case because of his contempt for knowledge.

[johnforbes]

Educating Clownslacker may be a quixotic task.

As for me, my French teacher did recognize the futility.

[Clownkicker]

C'est la vie.

[tvd]

See, tvd, you aren't a man.
You can't just admit when you're wrong. You refuse to educate yourself and ridicule me because I try to educate myself.

You're actually mad at me because I'm right, and that's just a mental illness.

See, Clown, you are just a psycho. You will argue about the time of day or the color of the sky.
If I said the sky is blue, you would spin up an opposing position, and go to it.
It is pointless to engage you. Pointless.

And I am deliberately ignoring your demands that I comment on Pence. Deliberately.

And, to correct your ERROR (OMA!!! Clown erred!!!) on your 9:08 post, I never said I worked for NASA, ever.
You go find where I said I worked for NASA. It will give you something to do this afternoon.

[Clownkicker]

"And I am deliberately ignoring your demands that I comment on Pence. Deliberately."-tvdumbfuck

Since I never demanded you comment on Pence, you're just making up stupid shit.
I merely pointed out that, being a partisan tool, you didn't and won't comment.

And I couldn't care less whether you worked for NASA. It's irrelevant. You're still a dickwad and you claimed to be an authority in the area of NASA's project.
But you aren't, obviously.

Even now you can't admit you were wrong about everything you said in your Jul. 11, 7:52 a.m. post.
You're still hoping your lame diversions will make everyone forget you aren't a man. :lol:

[RealJustme]

Proof clown is a psycho.^^^

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^ Well, your idiotic diversions worked with RealTool. :lol: :lol:

Let's wait and see who the next ignorant mush-brain is.

[johnforbes]

There's actually a legal principle to describe Clownlicker's appearance:

"error on the face"