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#87026
Benghazi: AC-130 Gunship Was On Scene & Requested Permission To Fire, Was Denied By Obama

WAIT Clown aka Lesh at the time swore no one was close enough to help our Americans at the time. He swore up and down no one, NO ONE could help. Eat fucking CROW ASSCLOWN..


ac-130 benghazi

From: Fox News

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command — who also told the CIA operators twice to “stand down” rather than help the ambassador’s team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”

Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.

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EAT SHIT CLOWN YOU POS COMMIE ASS FAGGOT LIMP WRIST-ED SNOWFLAKE
#87028
I know firsthand what a powerful effect this beast has.

Those attacking in Benghazi could not resist the rain of lead this would provide.

What happened, apparently, was that Hillary's Dept of State was furnishing weapons to Syria via this route, and that was probably why the ambassador was at this insecure facility in the first place.

The 2012 election was looming, and Obama was saying "Terrorism is on the run," so they all lied and left those 4 brave men to fight and to die.
#87029
Dogzilla wrote:How do you pack SOOO much stupidity into that head of yours?
Why do you think that is stupid? It makes perfect sense that such a call could have been made, and it makes even more sense that Obama admin would refuse to assist.

The thing about Benghazi....One, attack on a consulate is an act of war. Obama did nothing, which leads to:
Two, they lied about the cause...a fucking video....trying to shift blame to US...as a society...it was US that provoked those poor mis-understood Muzzies.
#87030
The arguments by Obama and his staff, that nothing was done because it wouldn't have helped was ludicrous. Obama, Hillary and their staff ordered everyone to stand down, they then went back to bed. The last they wanted was a drawn out battle with terrorists when they had proclaimed victory and terrorists were no longer an issue in that region.

There will come a time when one of them will be in a dangerous situation and have to ask for help. I only hope their security or the police tell them, "By the time we get there it would be to late" then hang up.
#87037
One of Obama's policies in Afghanistan was that American troops were to provide medical
treatment to injured enemy and interrogate them but if no useful information was obtained..
they were to be returned to their side at or near the same location where captured....

Obamacare at it's finest...... :lol: :lol:
#87052
"Benghazi: AC-130 Gunship Was On Scene & Requested Permission To Fire, Was Denied By Obama"-namandgulfdumbfuck

Unsurprisingly, this is absolutely untrue. There was no AC-130 "on the scene" nor anywhere in Libya at all.
Of the two gunships that might have been deployed, one was in Djibouti and the other closer one was in Sicily.
And Obama never denied them permission to fire because they were never there. Your own article doesn't even claim it was there except in its title, but the title is unsupported by anything in the article itself.

Regardless, the State Department was trying to get permission to fly over Libyan airspace and couldn't send a gunship until such permission was granted.

So not only did the CIA have a rescue team at the compound withing 30 minutes of being contacted, while State was seeking this permission from the Libyan government for the gunship flight, a rescue team had arrived from Tripoli but were held up at the Benghazi airport for three hours by Libyan military because of the chaos surrounding the situation. At that point no one knew for sure where Amb. Stevens actually was, so no one knew where the relief should go to help him.


Your article's second outright lie about the "stand down" orders has been debunked several times:

"Reports of a military stand-down order have circulated almost since the night of the attacks,...
Such reports increased earlier this year after congressional testimony from Stevens’ deputy, Greg Hicks, who said that a site security team at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli had been ordered to stand down — that is, not to go to Benghazi and battle terrorists or rescue U.S. personnel. Mr. Hicks noted that the site security team leader, Army Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson, expressed frustration over being ordered to stand down.
But Col. Gibson said Wednesday that no stand-down order was given, according to the House Armed Services subcommittee on oversight and investigations."-Washington Times June 27, 2013

"Tripoli security team leader LTC. S.E. Gibson soundly debunked the notion that a "stand down" order was given in testimony from a declassified June 26, 2013, House Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation, stating: "Madam Chairman, I was not ordered to stand down."-MediaMatters February 11, 2014

You clowns really need to question the stinking garbage slopped into your troughs by your handlers.

Eat fucking crow, namandgulfdumbfuck. :lol:
#87060
The AssClown's multi paragraph tirade notwithstanding, the surviving security contractors all state unequivocally that they were ordered several times to stand down by the mysterious CIA station chief on the scene. This no doubt was to ensure the Lybians had time to kill Ambassador Stevens to make sure Killery's secrets died with him.
#87065
The JFK people think Obama is.

They are giving him a "Profile in Courage" award for his lies about keeping your doctor, keeping your plan, for 43 million on food stamps, 94 million out of the workforce, for the lies about Obamacare being deficit-neutral, etc.
#87080
*sigh*

You rightards don't even understand what you are supposedly upset about.
This whole issue is about dishonest politically motivated claims by the Right that there were orders from Obama, Clinton, or the Pentagon to "stand down". There were no such orders.
Even Loser Boy AssClown Insipid admits they had nothing to do with any such order: "...the surviving security contractors all state unequivocally that they were ordered several times to stand down by the mysterious CIA station chief on the scene." Yet Loser Boy Insipid still faults Clinton and Obama for 'stand down orders' even after he just admitted they had nothing to do with it.

As for the CIA station chief, he did exactly what anyone out of his depth should have done. He told his employees to wait while he called and asked for orders from his chain of command.
He did what anyone should do in such a situation; not make any potentially disastrous decisions above your pay grade that might damage the U.S.. What he did was tell some private citizens under his authority to wait until he had instructions to act from some informed authority, which is exactly what he should have done.

You dishonest assholes are trying to blame Obama or Clinton (or both) for issuing orders to stand down when it never happened. Nine investigations into this matter have cleared them of this accusation. The Republicans themselves have cleared them of these accusations.
Let it go already. You are nothing but ignorant armchair commandos second guessing the station chief's reasonable decision in the middle of a crisis; to find out what those in authority wanted him to do. No one should send a bunch of private citizens marauding through a foreign country without an okay from your boss.

But if you want to get upset at someone for what happened, get upset at Congress for inadequately funding the State Department that made Clinton unable to provide adequate security at embassies and consulates globally.
Stevens had been begging for better security, State had been begging for funding, but the money wasn't there to provide it. It's STILL not there.
Now Trump is trying to make matters worse by proposing even larger cuts to the State Department, (which you morons are cheering about) and the result will be even more attacks on poorly protected U.S. assets and U.S. citizens around the world. But hey, rich people will get an even bigger tax cut while Americans are killed over seas, so it's okay.
#87082
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Nice pull it out of your asshole Clown! And thats exactly what it was. Pulled out of your asshole and nothing more

Clown the spin queen of a porn board and doing it while at work on the dime of the people.
#87085
namandgulfdumbfuck, all you need to do is show us where anything I said isn't true.
Check for yourself. You won't believe anything I tell you anyway, so go ahead and educate yourself.

I refuted your entire original post, showing it was a flat-out lie fed only to the truly stupid.
Now you need to refute something I said.

But you won't because you can't.
You're just another ignorant, loud-mouthed, impotent turd.
#87089
Clownkicker wrote:namandgulfdumbfuck, all you need to do is show us where anything I said isn't true.
Check for yourself. You won't believe anything I tell you anyway, so go ahead and educate yourself.

I refuted your entire original post, showing it was a flat-out lie fed only to the truly stupid.
Now you need to refute something I said.

But you won't because you can't.
You're just another ignorant, loud-mouthed, impotent turd.
Clown! pulling shit out of your asshole without a link is not refuting anyone. Show me facts with proof or shut the fuck up.
When this happend you swore there wasnt anyone with in days to help out. Remember when I told you I knew a team that was within a few hours geared up and ready to go. now the truth is coming out and as usual your in denial.

Dog go back to sucking Clowns dick like you always do. Oh ya learn to comprehend nut licker
#87091
"When this happend [sic] you swore there wasnt [sic] anyone with in[sic] days to help out."-namandgulfdumbfuck

Untrue, never happened. That's just one more idiotic lie you pulled out of your ass.

Show me facts with proof or shut the fuck up.
#87093
Clown, come on, this is now beyond rational dispute.

There was a stand-down order, and it halted the natural and usual rescue attempt which was auto-triggered by the emergency.

You surely know that, and you even know why it is true in terms of how the military operates in hostile areas.

This is almost like liberals still trying, with half a heart, to say Trump's tweet that he was wiretapped was wrong.

But Trump was right, and there's now a mountain of evidence of that.
#87095
You're right, johnny, this is now beyond rational dispute. And yet you are still here disputing it.
I remind you of the delightfully articulate admonition from your esteemed colleague: "pulling shit out of your asshole without a link is not refuting anyone. Show me facts with proof or shut the fuck up."

There was no order to stand down, and your fictional order obviously didn't halt "the natural rescue attempt" (huh? As opposed to an unnatural rescue attempt?) because they arrived at the compound and rescued the people.

"Five commandos who survived the Benghazi attack, which claimed the lives of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans, made the allegation in a new book, accusing the CIA station chief of delaying a rescue mission.

Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.) said lawmakers never came across evidence indicating the station chief had told his team to “stand down” and abort a rescue mission.
“After interviewing these individuals, including those writing the book, and all of the others on the ground that night, both Republicans and Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee and the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that there was not, in fact, an order to stand down and no evidence was found to support such a claim,” he said.

Contractors and other security officers told the House committee about 25 minutes passed between learning about the attack and the time the commandos departed for their rescue mission, the congressman said.

“The team said they were prepped and ready to go within minutes, but the senior CIA officers responsible for the welfare of all Annex personnel were concerned they might be sending their security team into an ambush so they tried to obtain better intelligence and heavy weapons before dispatching the team,” Ruppersberger added.

He noted that a high-ranking CIA official told the committee the outcome could have been much worse if the rescue team had tried to act sooner."-The Hill Sept. 5, 2014

"A senior U.S. intelligence official also insisted that the CIA security team that initially responded to the attack was not given orders "to stand down in providing support," as had been suggested in media reports.
According to the official, upon learning of the attack at the consulate, the security team at the annex responded "as quickly and effectively as possible." The official described how the security team tried to rally additional support from local Libyan forces and heavier weapons, but that when that could not be accomplished "within minutes" they moved out to the compound."-ABC news Nov. 1, 2012

I await your documented refutation of this post, johnny. Undoubtedly you will give us your evidence that what I just disputed is somehow "beyond dispute".
Naahhh, I'm not really waiting because you never refute anything. You just yammer on and crack embarrassingly unfunny 'jokes'.
#87098
Once again, Tool, I remind you of the delightfully articulate admonition from your esteemed colleague: "pulling shit out of your asshole without a link is not refuting anyone. Show me facts with proof or shut the fuck up."

Back up your ridiculous claim or face the wrath of namandgulfdumbfuck!
You know how he hates made up stupid shit. :lol:
#87099
Once again, Tool, I remind you of the delightfully articulate admonition from your esteemed colleague: "pulling shit out of your asshole without a link is not refuting anyone. Show me facts with proof or shut the fuck up."
So where's your link?
#87101
Clownkicker wrote:[url]http://www.RealTool_is_a_sack_of_shit_troll.com[/url]
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ROFLMAO @ Clown.. "NO SERVER AVAILABLE" JUST LIKE CLOWNS STATEMENT AND HIS BRAIN... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
#87105
WikiLeaks’ latest document dump exposed the Obama administration’s deliberate desertion of Americans in Benghazi.

In an email from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to Obama lackey and counselor John Podesta, Clinton admitted that she and the president issued a stand down order to America troops stationed 3 miles from the U.S. Embassy in Benghazi.

seems Obama and Clinton didn’t want to upset radicalized Muslims in the small Libyan town by sending troops to protect Americans. Instead, Hillary went to bed while radical Islamic extremists attacked and killed Americans in Benghazi on September 11, 2012.

This nanny-state liberalism shows more concern for angry infantile people than holding them accountable for their criminal behavior. And it is treasonous.

The Clinton email in question explained to Podesta that a handful of lives were a small price to pay to maintain U.S. weapons deals with the Lebanese that flowed through Kurdistan and Caledonia:

“Document Number 1254869 clearly shows that Clinton advised Podesta of their intent to have the U.S. military, which was only 3 miles from the consulate when the attack happened, stay put and offer no help. ‘The CIA will get their own people out’ the forward commanders were told.”




The Leftist mindset prefers to placate terrorists for money than to fight evil by protecting Americans on foreign soil.

But it gets worse.

Clinton also confirmed to Podesta that President Obama approved the stand down order.

Clinton’s email alludes to Obama deferring judgment to Clinton. He told his secretary of state to do “whatever she thought was best” to protect U.S. weapons deals with Former Libyan Prime Minister Muammar Gaddafi from being transferred into German hands.

Hillary, Obama, Benghazi stand downThe Obama administration’s inept, leaderless cowardice in the face of radical Islamic extremism signed American death warrants.


The four Americans killed in the Benghazi attacks were U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, U.S. Foreign Service Information Management Officer Sean Smith, and CIA contractors Tyrone S. Woods and Glen Doherty.

As patriots already know, Obama’s and Clinton’s soaked their hands in the blood of four dead Americans.

For those wondering why patriotic Americans pushed for truth in the Benghazi dealings, you just got your answer.

Perhaps Leftists don’t mind Obama and Clinton abandoning our protectors and the people they were protecting. However, we find this to be the act of traitors. Moreover, the fact that they lied and attempted a cover-up is unforgivable.








I'm not even the master of all things Google like our friend the AssClown, and it took all of two minutes to find this.
#87109
So why didn't you post these alleged emails, Loser Boy? :o

You seem to have overlooked them when you quoted your made up stupid shit.
If Wikileaks 'dumped' them, then you should have no trouble posting them.
We'll wait...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You morons will believe absolutely ANYTHING your handlers feed you without question, no matter how transparently fabricated. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Hillary, Obama, Benghazi stand downThe Obama administration’s inept, leaderless cowardice in the face of radical Islamic extremism signed American death warrants."
^^^^^^^ Do you see any clues there that it is made up stupid shit propaganda, Loser Boy? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
#87115
Why didn't you ask Loser Boy AssClown Insipid for a link to the emails, namandgulfdumbfuck?

You know perfectly well that if there is no link, then it's bullshit and Insipid is a liar.

He should show us facts with proof or shut the fuck up, right?

You do think everyone should play by the same rules, don't you, you fucking hypocrite?

All you can do is post babble and attacks? :lol:
#87117
The AssClown is hoping nobody notices the larger point, that he is totally unconcerned that Killery and Obozo's lack of concern and the following cover-up cost the lives of four Americans.

Because he, like Killery feels Ambassador Stevens had to die (dead men tell no tales...it's worked dozens of times before for the Clintons, why not now?) to protect Killery's treachery, and the security contractors were just collateral damage.

The lying cunt bitch compounded her sins and solidified her place in hell by lying through her yellow teeth to the families of those she left to die.

And the AssClown cannot refute one single word.
But he will post a multi paragraph tantrum complete with an emoticon vomit, that I won't bother reading.

And now the trained monkey will perform.
#87119
Dogshit, does sucking the AssClown's ass taste any different than sucking the ass of Igor, Twain or Lucky?

On every board I've ever seen you on you always find someone's ass to suck. Either because you want to be their buddy, or because you need someone to follow around because you aren't very smart or as in the case of Igor, because you got your old ass kicked out and you wanted back in.
#87120
The AssClown Insipid is hoping nobody notices the larger point, that he can't produce a shred of evidence to support his idiotic claim about some supposedly damning emails. This is because they don't exist. They are made up stupid shit, which is all Loser Boy AssClown Insipid ever has. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But I enjoyed his multi-paragraph tantrum where he performed like a trained monkey for my entertainment. Let's all watch as he does it again. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
#87121
I herewith reveal one of Clowntoker's emails to me:

FROM: Clownhicker@socialism.org

TO: John Forbes

SUBJECT: Praise


Mr. Forbes, it has been a very personal pleasure for me to exchange viewpoints on a host of different issues over the past 79 years.

Commencing from what I fondly dub "The Old Days," back when modems were constructed of ivory procured from elephant tusks, I have admired your relentless sagacity.

In fact, I suggest that you buy a boat and name it "Relentless Sagacity."

Sincerely and Respectfully Yours,

Clown
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