[johnforbes]

Clowntoker, Grog, and Elkin are all very honest and they are all gentlemen of honor, so they will want to apologize for being utterly wrong about Trump's tweet.

Clearly, Trump was "wiretapped" as his tweet said.

This thread will give the leftists a convenient space to post their apology.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, why would anyone apologize for saying there was no evidence that Obama wiretapped Trump Tower?
At every point where I said it, it was true. One needn't apologize for telling the truth.

Now johnforbes, being a dishonest partisan hack, will still refuse to admit that Trump was wrong when he claimed that Obama "wiretapped" Trump Tower, despite the fact the FBI, the House Intelligence Committee, the Senate Intelligence Committee, and everyone else involved have found no evidence whatsoever to support the claim.
Even Trump couldn't produce any evidence to support the claim.

So why is johnforbes so obstinate in refusing to accept the truth when his own partisan hacks down at FOXnews and Breitbart can't refute it?

[johnforbes]

Oh come on, it was long clear that Trump's server was checked for commo pings to 2 Russia banks, and that is de facto wiretapping the tower.

Surely the Left cannot seek to take refuge in semantics?

It was clear from the start of this that Trump was correct because, if you Google the Fairview program and Stellar Wind, you'll learn the pervasive nature of scrutiny.

Project Dragnet was more scrutiny of Trump and transpired long before he even sought public office.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, it was perfectly legal and correct that the intelligence organizations were surveilling Russians as they did.
It isn't Obama's fault that Trump and half his staff are tied up in collusions with the Russians. If they hadn't been, this would never have become a problem in the first place.

When are you clowns going to stop only being concerned only with the theoretical legalities of this surveillance and start to pay attention to the facts about Trump and his crowd that were uncovered by it?
You don't care the Flynn was a foreign agent. You don't care that Manafort was laundering money for the Russians. You don't care about any of it.

Leaking the Pentagon Papers was illegal too, but someone had to do it. And it's a good thing we found out what was going on.
Same as it's a good thing we are finding out about the traitorous scum running this country today.

[johnforbes]

It was discretionary that Flynn register, but I'm fine with him doing it. My basic concern is that nobody, of any party, should be able to leave a job as a general/admiral and then go lobby.

As to Trump being wiretapped, of course he was.

Google Fairview, Google Stellar Wind, or Project Dragnet.

Rice abused the intel agencies for political reasons and we all know it.

We also know Obama's people politicized the IRS, for heaven's sake.

It was long clear that Trump's server was checked for commo pings to 2 Russia banks, and that is de facto wiretapping the tower.

[Intrepid]

The AssClown is wrapped tightly in one of his silly ass word games over the words "wire tapped" and will not be shaken loose.

Especially since his employer caught him wasting 90% of every day using the company computer to access and throw tantrums on a porn site bulletin board.

We've all noticed his choke chain has been severely jerked limiting his ability to spew the Marxist party line.

For these gifts we are eternally grateful.

[RealJustme]

Trump set the democrats and media up. He announced Obama had monitored him and then refused to provide the evidence he knew was there. Democrats, Obama Administration and the media fell for it and denied it ever happened. After letting them make complete fools out of themselves, he lets the evidence come out. The Obama Administration, democrats and media all are once again proved to be corrupt. Death by a thousand cuts.

I told everyone, while everyone is playing checkers, Trump is playing chess.

[namngulfvet]

I love watching all these libs on here squirm then throw themselves into spin mode an squirm some more :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Dogzilla]

Chess?? LMAO....Donnie couldn't even name the pieces on a chess board.

You sound like a rapist, flamingfag.

[johnforbes]

Don Lemon and all of CNN can't make it go away.

Look, every rational person knows what happened here -- Susan Rice, close as a "sister" to Barry, abused her ability to request unmasking in order to surveil a politician she didn't like.

This is just garden variety wiretapping (id est, electronic surveillance) and plain old ordinary corruption in politics.

[namngulfvet]

Chess?? LMAO....Donnie couldn't even name the pieces on a chess board.

You sound like a rapist, flamingfag.

We noticed you didnt either. Yet Donnie is a billion are and your nothing but a porn board arm chair wannabe

[Dogzilla]

At least I'm not you.

[johnforbes]

Look, every rational person knows what happened here -- Susan Rice, close as a "sister" to Barry, abused her ability to request unmasking in order to surveil a politician she didn't like.

This is just garden variety wiretapping (id est, electronic surveillance) and plain old ordinary corruption in politics

[Clownkicker]

johnny, you're demonstrating your ignorance again.

It was perfectly legal for Rice to request to "unmask" the names of Americans in those reports. It is done regularly by all political parties in such situations, and done for sound security reasons.
It was the intelligence agencies that made the decision to unmask, not Rice. She couldn't unmask anything.

The only thing that isn't proper and legal about what happened is the leaking of those names.
And predictably, Trump and the rest of you morons haven't got a shred of evidence that Rice leaked anything.

[RealJustme]

It was perfectly legal for Rice to request to "unmask" the names of Americans in those reports.

The courts will decide that, a Grand Jury has already been formed to look into her actions. Session said he will insure Susan Rice gets fair treatment.

[Clownkicker]

Tool, you clowns don't understand what the term "unmask" even means. It does not mean that the names are passed out to the public.

It just means that if an intelligence agency deems it reasonable that the person filing the request to "unmask" has reason to believe it is in the national interest to know the name, then they release the name. The redaction is 'reversed' on that one document for a legal purpose.

Rice couldn't have done jack shit alone. She couldn't discover the names without going through channels exactly as Republicans do in the same sort of situation, and for the same reasons. It happens all the time, but you're letting your handlers convince you it's some kind of evil plot. That's because you are gullible simpletons.

You clowns are letting your handlers get you to piss your pants over a scary sounding word that is just a routine process for all administrations.

And no, Tool, Rice will not be in court over "unmasking" the names, dummy. It isn't something that is illegal.

[johnforbes]

Clown, I'm not going to start practicing law here, but you are wrong.

There's a specific test, and it was NOT met just because Rice got curious what her political foe was up to.

As to leaking, Rice was married to a journalism exec, so you draw your own conclusion as to what really happened.

It is one thing to have a political viewpoint, but quite another to be naive about human nature.

Bear in mind, Rice is a proven public liar.

[elklindo69]

And I suppose Trump will provide evidence that Rice lied and committed a crime?

:lol: :mrgreen: :lol:

[Intrepid]

Elkindoofus, that evidence is already proven.
Try to keep up.

[johnforbes]

That smoke you smell is from Rice's hard drive being deleted and undergoing reformat.

Look, everybody knows what happened here, and it was just ugly human nature.

Barry and his sycophants were in power 8 years, and they got intoxicated by power, and they then abused power.

[Grog]

So far, the Rice affair appears to be Benghazi Part II. How much time and money did the GOP waste on that witch hunt? :lol:

[johnforbes]

Not enough.

When you give stand down orders to stop 4 brave men from being rescued, when you don't even try, that's really just beneath contempt.

Then Rice and Barry and Hillary lied about it for partisan reasons.

[Grog]

Except on Hannity, I never saw any evidence of an order to stand down on anything that could have made an actual difference.

Perhaps it's in the information you people have recently gleaned on Rice? :lol:

[johnforbes]

Perhaps it is in an interview with one of the people actually told to halt?

Also, perhaps it is the knowledge that a rescue procedure in such a circumstance would be commenced as a matter of course (something Grog would not be aware of) and that somebody would have to order a halt to stop it from flowing forward.

[johnforbes]

Given the relentless courtesy this fine forum is famous for, let's keep this thread going as an opportunity for Clown, Grog, and Elkin to apologize for doubting Trump's tweet.

He was indeed surveilled, it went on 24 hours per day, and it went on for years.

Under programs such as Fairview, Stellar Wind, and Dragnet, he was surveilled at 18 different business locations, and so were his business associates including some of the ones familiar to TV viewers (e.g., Carolyn).

[elklindo69]

First Johnnie claimed that Donnie was right about being wiretapped. Now Johnnie is claiming that Trump was being surveilled?

So which one is it Johnnie???

:lol:

[sillydaddy]

Elk must have been the valedictorian when he graduated for idiot school.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

[johnforbes]

Trump's tweet said "wiretapped."

In quotes to signify -- for brain-dead kids such as Elkin -- the meaning.

[elklindo69]

Wiretapping specifically refers to the monitoring of electronic communications (phone/internet).

Surveillance refers to broad range of activities to keep a close watch on someone. You know...bugging Trump's microwave oven to monitor dining activities!

LMFAO!

:lol:

[johnforbes]

Both were reportedly done.

Trump was surveilled since 2003 at 18 different business locations.

Google the Fairview program, the Stellar Wind program, the Dragnet project, etc.