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#84702
Dennis Kucinich had a disagreement with Obama on foreign policy and was thinking of a bill.

He found out that Obama's DNI wiretapped a phone call while he was inside his office in the House.

It has long been known that Obama's people wiretapped Israel, France, Germany, Italy...the list goes on.
#84733
Read what I wrote.

Kucinich sat and listened to the audiotape.

And he has been on TV in recent days telling his story.

A tiny amount of Googling will, as usual, prove I don't post things which are not easily supported.
#84736
Above please find what I believe they call a "link."

Not of sausage, but it takes you to a web site, and there you can view a moving picture which some of the tech-savvy kids call a "video."

On that video, Dennis Kucinich says precisely what I said he said.

It is on something called the "Internet," which I have not yet found but believe may exist.
#84737
I must congratulate you on two points, elklindo.

First of all, you finally got a reactionary clown to post a link to support his claims, something johnforbes in particular virtually never does. He won't even put quotation marks around a plagiarized comment.

Secondly, you got under johnforbes' skin so completely that he felt compelled to justify himself with a yammering triple posting when a single simple post containing the link was sufficient to respond to the inquiry. :lol:
#84741
Why would I have any interest in refuting it, silly?

johnforbes is still just flailing around grasping at straws because he knows there isn't a shred of evidence to support his belief that Obama tapped Trump. He's trying to dazzle you with bullshit.
johnny thinks that by 'proving' Obama tapped other people it somehow proves Obama tapped Trump, even though trump himself can't find any evidence of it despite the fact he has access to the best intelligence in the world.

Have you noticed that johnforbes can't refute THAT...eh silly? :lol: :lol:
#84750
Not a "shred"?

Come on, the NY Times and BBC and all sorts of Left Wing sources have been reporting extensively on "wiretapping."

They called it -- let's use their term -- "wiretapping."

The Left is flailing about trying to avoid what their own media outlets have been saying for months.
#84754
johnny, nobody but you is talking about "wiretapping".

I concede that "wiretapping" goes on every day in this country under every administration.

But what intelligent people are talking about is "wiretapping of Trump by Obama" and on that subject you've got zilch, as always; same as the NY Times articles, same as The Guardian so far.

There's still not a shred of evidence that Obama ever "wiretapped" Trump.
Trump himself, with his access to the greatest intelligence organization in the world, couldn't deliver anything to Congress to back up his impulsive, childish tweeting.
In that respect, Trump is exactly like you: intellectually a loudmouthed adolescent.
#84827
The NSA with their vast resources has no need to do anything as pedestrian as "wire tapping" anyone.
You may be assured every communication you make, even here, is recorded somewhere.
Trump used an incorrect description of what took place, but those communications were recorded and transcribed.
The proof is the transcriptions have been illegally revealed.
As the lawyers say, case closed.
#84828
Clownkicker wrote:I must congratulate you on two points, elklindo.

First of all, you finally got a reactionary clown to post a link to support his claims, something johnforbes in particular virtually never does. He won't even put quotation marks around a plagiarized comment.

Secondly, you got under johnforbes' skin so completely that he felt compelled to justify himself with a yammering triple posting when a single simple post containing the link was sufficient to respond to the inquiry. :lol:

Says the "Clown" who lives in a glass house...ROFLMAO
#84864
It is as if the Left forgot its talking points.

As recently as late January, leftist outlets such as the NY Times and Guardian spoke repeatedly about "wiretapping."

Now, suddenly, they pretend Trump wasn't wiretapped.

What apparently happened was a prof who claimed a link between a big Russian bank and Trump, so she wanted the FBI to investigate, and that apparently happened but they found no link.

Apparently, there were two warrants, one FISA and one not, on Trump in October.

His server, outside the Tower, was tapped for under 2 weeks, they found nothing, and the investigation into Russian connections moved on.

At this point, I'm mainly curious to know what really happened as opposed to making any partisan points.

Whether you are on the Left or the Right, do you really want an Administration to wiretap opposing political candidates?
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