[johnforbes]

I suspect that millions of illegals didn't know enough, or care enough, to vote.

But they could have, and perhaps did.

CNN is saying Trump's claim is false, but CNN has not the slightest idea whether they are right.

[RealJustme]

It's not in question if illegals did vote, it's been proven in court some did, it's the matter of how many voted that's in question. The fact that any voted is 100% our voting system is broken, voting requirements need to be made as tough as any process that requires proof of identity. It's easier to vote than cash a check.

[Clownkicker]

This thread is one more reason to believe johnforbes flunked out of college. (Or SHOULD have flunked out of college for more than just his plagiarism.)

The evidence CNN has is that they looked for any evidence that massive illegal voting occurred and they didn't find any.
That's why they keep saying that at this point there is no evidence that massive illegal voting occurred---because there is no evidence of it. Even Republicans can't find any.

To prove illegal voting DIDN'T happen one must look at 100% of the millions of votes cast.
To prove illegal voting DID happen, one need only find a few thousand cases of it; a far easier thing to accomplish than examining 130 million votes in 50 states.
Imagine the screams from the Teabaggers and Republicans. They would be here railing against the waste of tax money being spent on something nobody but lunatics believe happened, and they would go to court to stop it, just as they went to court to stop recounts in just a few states where the results were close.
But johnforbes thinks it reasonable to demand evidence that his own guys would make impossible to find.

One can only prove something DID happen because things that DID happen leave evidence behind that one can find.
Things that didn't happen do not leave evidence behind that one can find.
This is why any child (and certainly a college graduate) knows the burden of proof falls on Trump to prove his absurd claims, and not on anyone else.

[namngulfvet]

This thread is one more reason to believe johnforbes flunked out of college. (Or SHOULD have flunked out of college for more than just his plagiarism.)

The evidence CNN has is that they looked for any evidence that massive illegal voting occurred and they didn't find any.
That's why they keep saying that at this point there is no evidence that massive illegal voting occurred---because there is no evidence of it. Even Republicans can't find any.

To prove illegal voting DIDN'T happen one must look at 100% of the millions of votes cast.
To prove illegal voting DID happen, one need only find a few thousand cases of it; a far easier thing to accomplish than examining 130 million votes in 50 states.
Imagine the screams from the Teabaggers and Republicans. They would be here railing against the waste of tax money being spent on something nobody but lunatics believe happened, and they would go to court to stop it, just as they went to court to stop recounts in just a few states where the results were close.
But johnforbes thinks it reasonable to demand evidence that his own guys would make impossible to find.

One can only prove something DID happen because things that DID happen leave evidence behind that one can find.
Things that didn't happen do not leave evidence behind that one can find.
This is why any child (and certainly a college graduate) knows the burden of proof falls on Trump to prove his absurd claims, and not on anyone else.

If Johnforbes did go to college its way more then your education Jizzy. Yours is from a 3rd world shit hole where you learn to become a union hack sucking your bosses cock all day long so he will allow you to post on a porn board everyday. In your mind you seem to think your this big hero and saving the world by pounding on the key board and beating your little tiny black cock. It no wonder your wife likes BWC.

[Clownkicker]

....and nambypambyvet stops by to tell us he's got nuthin', as always.

Well, thanks fer nuthin', dumbfuck. :lol:

[johnforbes]

We all respect Clowntoker's A.A. degree from Lower Swampwater Junior College.

Still, it must be noted that Clownlicker has furnished not one iota of evidence that illegals did not vote.

Clowndoper has made a affirmative statement that Trump is wrong, which means Clowntoker must have proof illegals did not vote.

I challenge him to provide that proof, but he has none.

[Clownkicker]

"His Lordship has made a affirmative statement that Trump is wrong,..."-johnfibs

And where did I say such a thing, dummy?
I said Trump has provided no evidence for his claims and neither has anyone else.

Please provide a quotation that duplicates something I actually said that supports your lie, johnny.
Surely a law school grad like you should be able to come up with a valid quotation to support your assertion. :lol:

[Dogzilla]

Does Insipid have a new identity? Nambyfuckface sure does sound like his style.

[Clownkicker]

I hate to say it, Dog, but numbnutsjizzvat is probably more insane than Insipid, hard as that is to believe.

Insipid at least makes the effort to pretend to be sane. nambypambyvet doesn't even try.

[Intrepid]

It was too good to last for long, but we see Madam President is back, although he has been lurking all along (just as he does outside the ladies room at his local Target store).

We also notice that AssClown Loser Marxist Tool recognizes my superiority to him in all things.

[johnforbes]

On every thread, Clownlicker has made the affirmative assertion that Trump is wrong.

Thus, Clownhicker -- like CNN -- must have some evidence proving illegal immigrants didn't vote.

All I'm doing is asking for that proof.

CNN has none, nor does Clown.

[Clownkicker]

So johnforbes had nothin'.... again. Not a single quotation from me, or even CNN, for that matter.

Who would have guessed. Just more made up stupid shit. :lol:

The intellectual impotence of the Right...

[johnforbes]

On every thread, Clownlicker has made the affirmative assertion that Trump is wrong.

Thus, Clownhicker -- like CNN -- must have some evidence proving illegal immigrants didn't vote.

All I'm doing is asking for that proof.

CNN has none, nor does Clown

[Clownkicker]

"On every thread, His Lordship has made the affirmative assertion that Trump is wrong."-johnfibs

I have never said any such thing even once, johnny. And I certainly haven't said it on every thread.

I told you I didn't, you have no evidence to support your idiotic claim, and you repeat your falsehood with knowledge that it's false.

That makes you just another liar here.

And that means you've got nothin', as always.

[johnforbes]

On every thread, Clownlicker has made the affirmative assertion that Trump is wrong.

Thus, Clownhicker -- like CNN -- must have some evidence proving illegal immigrants didn't vote.

All I'm doing is asking for that proof.

CNN has none, nor does Clown.

[Clownkicker]

I would say the damp trousers you're sitting in were the result of the fire extinguisher used on your flaming pants, johnny, but it is far more likely you simply wet them yourself.

[Dogzilla]

tRumpf is wrong. He's wrong on everything he says or does. Dead wrong.

All you have to do is prove that I am wrong. Go for it, Forbsie.

[sillydaddy]

Dog...you're wrong... :o :o :lol: :o

[johnforbes]

To me, it seems unlikely that millions of illegals actually voted.

But nobody knows.

CNN and the others who confidently claim Trump "lies" about illegals voting are making an affirmative claim, which is that illegals did not vote.

But they have no evidence -- just their own partisan opinions.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, this thread is a perfect example of why you are consistently nothing but a hypocritical pussy.

Trump made the absurd claim first. Trump must prove his claim first.
To claim the election system is broken is what demands evidence to support such a claim.
The default position that the election system works does not need to have "evidence" to know it works. It has worked for hundreds of years. It can be assumed it still works until someone comes up with evidence to the contrary.

But as this thread shows, you're too big a pussy to demand of Trump what you demand of others.

Why? Because you're nothing but a dishonest partisan hack.
Forget that you haven't the foggiest idea of how logic works.

[johnforbes]

It was Obama who, shortly before the election, mocked the notion that US elections could be hacked.

Then the Democrats lost in an electoral landslide, so then they began claiming Russian hacking influenced the election when most voting machines are not even connected to the Internet.

After that, Dems began saying they "won" in the popular vote sense, so Trump said that was millions of illegals voting.

So there were partisan, affirmative assertions on both sides.

It is beyond dispute that illegals can vote. Obama even recently said nobody would pursue illegals who did vote, and he was quite candid about that on TV.

So all there are opinions on both sides.

CNN has boldly said Trump's claims are "false," but CNN has no evidence to show that.

So far, Trump has said he will investigate and perhaps that would yield evidence.

My view is that some illegals surely did vote, but I doubt if it amounted to millions.

[elklindo69]

I suspect that millions of illegals didn't know enough, or care enough, to vote.

But they could have, and perhaps did.

CNN is saying Trump's claim is false, but CNN has not the slightest idea whether they are right.

Johnnie's pushing the idiot logic again...

argumentum ad ignorantiam

:lol:

[Dogzilla]

Dog...you're wrong... :o :o :lol: :o

Go ahead and prove that. I'll wait.

[johnforbes]

The Left is making an affirmative statement -- that illegals didn't vote, or didn't vote enough to sway a thing.

They have ZERO EVIDENCE to support that.

[Clownkicker]

So johnny, what you're trying to say is "The Left" has just as much evidence to support their assertion as Trump has to support his positive statement that there was massive illegal immigrant voter fraud, which is "ZERO EVIDENCE" right?

Is that your point, johnny; that CNN has the same credibility as Trump?

Why don't you just say so if that's what you think?

[johnforbes]

Trump has said he'll push some sort of investigation and that is what should occur.

There is plenty of evidence that illegal aliens can vote, and are encouraged to by some legislators, in California and New Mexico and so forth.

There is zero evidence how many illegal aliens voted.

Surely, some did, but I personally doubt it would amount to millions.

But I don't know, which is more intellectual honesty than CNN and its leftist pals can summon up.

[Clownkicker]

"There is zero evidence how many illegal aliens voted."-johnforbes

^^^^^ There it is. johnforbes admits that Trump has zero evidence for his claim that millions of illegals voted.

But for some reason johnny only attacks CNN instead of both CNN AND Trump.

That's what makes johnforbes the epitome of the dishonest partisan hypocrite.

[johnforbes]

What I posted was the truth -- that there is no non-anecdotal evidence how many illegal aliens voted.

Surely some did because states such as California, New Mexico, and the others make it so easy for them.

Just before the 2016 election, Obama assured illegals they could vote and not be pursued. What a remarkably anti-American thing to say.

[elklindo69]

Trump claimed that 3 - 5 million people voted illegally. So along your line of thinking that would make Trump a liar, because he hasn't proven anything yet.

It's nice to see for once that you think Trump is a liar after all...

[sillydaddy]

But of course..Kohn thinks all the problems that plagued the last election...
accusations of Russian meddling, Hillary's baggage...
will somehow magically disappear and Hillary will win if another election is held..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

[elklindo69]

Any day Trump will come up with the proof that 3 to 5 million people "illegally" voted for Hillary!!!

:lol: :mrgreen: :lol:

[Clownkicker]

"What I posted was the truth -- that there is no non-anecdotal evidence how many illegal aliens voted."-johnflubs

And what I posted is the truth -- there is no non-anecdotal evidence how many law degrees johnforbes holds.
Nobody here has ever seen anything but unsubstantiated rumors and blowhard braggadocio on that subject.

That's a fact.

[namngulfvet]

Clown! Nothing you say is the truth.. Everything you say is pulled out of your asshole. And being pulled out of your asshole does not make it facts. You know the board rule about posting shit without arbitration. If no link its bullshit

[alteregocpl]

It doesnt matter which side of the fence you'really on, The accuser is obligated to present the burden of truth. PERIOD!

[Clownkicker]

Why is it you clowns always resort to attacking me when you can't disprove anything I say?

Bunch of impotent pussies.... :lol:

[johnforbes]

How many law degrees?

The same as most people.

You can take grad training and get a second degree such as an LLM in tax, but to me an MBA or master's in finance would be more valuable.