[sillydaddy]

Last week Obama passed an important historic milestone.....

there were no ceremonies and no statements issued by the White House, in spite of the significance..

which is why you may not be aware, Obama now has the most shameful distinction of being....

continuously at war longer than any other American President in US history.

Obama has taken military action in a total of seven countries,...Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Pakistan..

Somalia and Yemen....without the authorization of Congress.. If you include covert operations the list

could be much longer.

Back in 2009, the awarding of the Noble Peace Prize to Obama on the basis of expectations was

unprecedented. But after eight years of continuous warfare and now the announcement that arms will again

be made available to Vietnam.... the Nobel Committee should take another unprecedented action...

It should revoke Obama's peace prize and demand repayment of the prize money.

Your thought?

[johnforbes]

Clearly that prize, given for no reason but hope, should be revoked.

Even after all these years, it remains shocking that no attempt was made by Susan Rice, Hillary, and Barry when they knew Benghazi was under attack.

Naval Air Station Sigonella, in Sicily, was less than 800 miles from Benghazi.

Two Special Forces units were there.

An AC-130, with commandos, could have arrived in time.

And, even when you cannot help a trapped group, your conscience should tell you to try.

[Clownkicker]

This is why dimwits like johnforbes will believe anything his handlers tell him: he can't do the math.

johnny, an AC-130 from Sicily would have taken three hours to get loaded and fly to Benghazi at top speed.
The Ambassador was dead within twenty minutes of the start of the attack.

Do you see any problems at all with your lame-brained assertion about them being able to "arrive on time"?

[johnforbes]

The fighting went on for more than 10 hours.

There are apologists who now say we couldn't have arrived in time to help.

First, that is untrue.

Secondly, you try even if you fail.

You don't let 4 brave Americans fight and die in a foreign land without trying to help.

They didn't help, then they lied about it afterward.

And they lied for cheap political reasons -- to win the 2012 election.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^Reactionary dimwit johnforbes thinks arriving 2 hours and 40 minutes after the four guys are already dead is the same as being "in time to help."

Stupid fucker. :lol:

[sillydaddy]

Like Hillary...Clown believes, "What difference does it make!".

[johnforbes]

These events unfolded over 13 hours.

So a rescue could have arrived.

But, even assuming otherwise, you try.

What sort of person leaves Americans to fight bravely -- and die -- without trying to help?

Answer?

Rice and Obama.

[elklindo69]

So was there a 13 hour continuous assault on the facility?

So the US government is supposed to have a rapid reaction force ready on a monents notice ready to deploy the instant a demonstration turns into rescue operation.

[johnforbes]

They not only "should" but do.

There is constant training for such situations -- not the precise scenario presented by Benghazi, but things in that vein.

Traing is what the military does, and preparation is the watchword.

Most people in journalism don't know this, but when the flash alert went out assets began moving and so what had to happen was a non-authorization for border crossing.

So, any way you cut it, D.C. stopped a rescue attempt which would have started in motion minutes after the first alert.

Knowing what we know now, would any lives have been saved by an AC-130 showing up? That is unknown, but no terrorist would continue doing anything faced with steel rain from that beast.

What does a decent person do when he hears about somebody in trouble? Try to help.

What was done was 1) No help and 2) Lies.

[Grog]

Once again Forbes unwittingly demonstrates that his only actual experience with the military and its members was as a short arm inspector master sergeant in the REMF wing at the Saigon Cowboy General Hospital dispensary. :lol:

[johnforbes]

Actually, I'm demonstrating actual experience as opposed to Grog's leftist ignorance.

If you had ever seen that beast in operation, you would know how quickly it would change the mind of a terrorist into mere self-preservation.

You would also know that training is constant and that it is aimed at various scenarios -- not precisely like Benghazi, of course, but in the same vein.

Why did Obama go to bed that night, then get up for a fundraiser in Vegas the next day instead of sending help?

Why did Rice and Hillary tell the lie about a video?

[RealJustme]

There are apologists who now say we couldn't have arrived in time to help.

First, that is untrue.

Secondly, you try even if you fail.

Yep that's the libtards' speaking points but would they accept a police department declining to respond to a 911 call from a family being knifed to death...because they felt they probably couldn't have arrived in time to help?

I also agree, it's time to get out us out of the 7 ongoing wars Obama has our military bogged down in, not to mention the wet nursing thousands of our our military doctors and nurses are doing across Africa. We need to leave those people alone and let them kill themselves in peace.

[elklindo69]

There are apologists who now say we couldn't have arrived in time to help.

First, that is untrue.

Secondly, you try even if you fail.

Yep that's the libtards' speaking points but would they accept a police department declining to respond to a 911 call from a family being knifed to death...because they felt they probably couldn't have arrived in time to help?

I also agree, it's time to get out us out of the 7 ongoing wars Obama has our military bogged down in, not to mention the wet nursing thousands of our our military doctors and nurses are doing across Africa. We need to leave those people alone and let them kill themselves in peace.

Seven wars?

hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I don't remember the government declaring 7 wars

Another Justme lie, but that's par for the course.

Bombing 7 countries is more accurate. Rightie neocons should be happy...we are hitting the terrorists "over there" before they "come here." That was the whole neocon narrative about Iraq that so many G Dubya supporters were parroting.

[RealJustme]

I don't remember the government declaring 7 wars

Another Justme lie, but that's par for the course.

Bombing 7 countries is more accurate.

Dude, bombing a country "IS" an act of war, and you're correct, our government didn't approve of Obama's acts of war, he did it on his own without the authorization of Congress. Do you really think that if a "country" started bombing D.C. or any other United States city, we wouldn't see it as an act of war? You would think by now you would have learned to think before you question any of my posts.

[johnforbes]

Elkin seems incapable of thought.

Would he really rather fight terrorism "here" rather than "there"?

Surely even Elkin isn't that crazy?

[Clownkicker]

johnforbes seems incapable of thought.

It's sillydummy and RealTool who are criticizing Obama for fighting terrorism "over there."

And you're so dishonest you give them a pass on their ridiculous stance and instead jump on elklindo who is the one defending Obama's policy of fighting them "over there."

Surely even johnforbes isn't that hypocritical?

[Intrepid]

I want Elkindoofus, without the aid of Wikipedia, to define Neocon.

He can't do it.

[elklindo69]

I don't remember the government declaring 7 wars

Another Justme lie, but that's par for the course.

Bombing 7 countries is more accurate.

Dude, bombing a country "IS" an act of war, and you're correct, our government didn't approve of Obama's acts of war, he did it on his own without the authorization of Congress. Do you really think that if a "country" started bombing D.C. or any other United States city, we wouldn't see it as an act of war? You would think by now you would have learned to think before you question any of my posts.

From what I remember the Iraqi government requested for the US government to bomb ISIS in Iraq. So you are here to complain that Obama is doing his job by killing terrorists "over there" before they "come here?"

BTW how do you know that the US government is unilaterally conducting air strikes? Therefore it's really not an act of war if the US government has implicit support to bomb terrorists. I would hardly think that any of these 7 countries as you claim would really complain if an aircraft carrier was sending in jets to kill terrorists...right?

Looks like your nonsensical theory went up in smoke...

[johnforbes]

Elkin seems incapable of thought.

Would he really rather fight terrorism "here" rather than "there"?

Surely even Elkin isn't that crazy?

[Clownkicker]

johnforbes seems incapable of thought.

It's sillydummy and RealTool who are criticizing Obama for fighting terrorism "over there."

And you're so dishonest you give them a pass on their ridiculous stance and instead jump on elklindo who is the one defending Obama's policy of fighting them "over there."

Surely even johnforbes isn't that hypocritical?

[johnforbes]

Elkin, like Clowntoker, seems incapable of thought.

Would he -- or they -- really rather fight terrorism "here" rather than "there"?

Surely even Elkin and Clowndoper aren't that crazy?

[RealJustme]

It's sillydummy and RealTool who are criticizing Obama for fighting terrorism "over there."

Obama isn't fighting anyone other than his political opponents and our own military. Trump will actually allow our military members to shot our enemy.