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By snakeoil
#71072
I turned on the news this morning and turned it off in a minute. I'm getting so fed up with 98% of the news cycle being devoted to the craziness of the campaign. We're becoming the laughing stock of the world. Cruz seeks election because the country is not Christian enough. Not to be outdone, Trump flashes his Bible around from the podium. Most countries of the world wouldn't put up with the impact religion plays in politics in the USA; with notable exceptions. I came across this from The Pew Research.
"the religiously unaffiliated population – including all of its constituent subgroups – has grown rapidly as a share of the overall U.S. population. The share of self-identified atheists has nearly doubled in size since 2007, from 1.6% to 3.1%. Agnostics have grown from 2.4% to 4.0%. And those who describe their religion as “nothing in particular” have swelled from 12.1% to 15.8% of the adult population since 2007. Overall, the religious “nones” have grown from 16.1% to 22.8% of the population in the past seven years."
By snakeoil
#71073
From bigthink.com

Although the exact number is hard to pin down, an estimated 13% of the world identifies as atheist. While believing or not believing in a God is a complex personal choice, there is a growing body of evidence that points to certain benefits of being an atheist. Being a theist has its own great advantages, but here are some of the reasons being an atheist could be beneficial (not necessarily in order of importance):

1. HAPPINESS

Scandinavian countries tend to be the least religious countries of the Western world and yet are consistently ranked the highest in the polls that measure a happiness index. Many factors go into such ratings, like economics, life expectancy, healthcare, social safety nets, and the transparency of the government, but it’s hard not to notice a potential correlation between atheism and happiness.

2. INTELLIGENCE

Atheists tend to have higher IQs and have been shown to generally be more intelligent than religious people. Intelligent people also tend to spend more time in school, which in turn leads to greater success professionally.

3. BETTER JOBS

This follows from the previous reason - more intelligent people tend to do better in the workplace. The same studies that have shown higher level of IQs for atheists, also equated that with getting higher-level jobs and higher pay.

4. SELF-ESTEEM & SELF-RELIANCE

These are two sides of the same coin. Atheists are not being told that they are guilty and sinful, as is the case with many religious teachings. This leads to higher self-esteem and a feeling of control over life’s events. As atheists do not expect a deity to help them solve a problem, they will address it personally and directly. The increased self-reliance can have a positive effect on their own lives, but also on the lives of others. When there’s no wheel of life, reincarnation, heaven or hell, the responsibility for made choices lies with individuals.

5. PROGRESS

Atheists tend to value scientific discovery more and are less likely to stand in the way of scientific progress as has often happened for religious reasons. An atheistic society is more rational and science-oriented.

6. HEALTH

Atheists believe in science and would not stand in the way of medical treatments on religious grounds. While there have been studies that showed the mental and physical health benefits of being a believer, there have also been recent studies that showed no significant difference in the mental health of religious and non-religious people. In fact, it can be argued that having strong self-esteem and better economic status would make atheists more healthy.

7. PEACEFULNESS

Atheists do not start wars or commit acts of terrorism for religious reasons, just to prove their deity is the correct one. On the other hand, Marxist-Leninist atheism at the core of communism has certainly given atheism a bad name, but it's not necessarily an argument that it was atheism itself that led to the repressions and killings. There were complex historical, social and economic reasons for that. Atheists tend to not kill others for the sake of atheism.

8. SCEPTICISM

Atheists are generally skeptical and tend to look at issues from a rational, often scientific standpoint that demands proof. For an atheist, elements of reality are observable and can be tested.

9. SOCIAL ISSUES

Atheists tend to be very involved in social justice issues. They do not believe in some higher power or order that could have pre-ordained a human’s lot in life. Everything is of this material universe and can be improved upon.

10. BETTER SEX

It wouldn't be a worthwhile list if it didn't talk about sex. There have been studies that showed atheists having better sex lives than religious people simply due to not feeling guilty about it. Guilt about sex is certainly a strong feature of some of the world's religions and the political discourses they generate (particularly in the US). There are also studies out that show a greater satisfaction with sex among the believers, but as it's also not something they should really focus on and discuss (according to religious tenets), it's hard to know where their responses are coming from.
By johnforbes
#71081
I do agree that atheism can be discussed well apart from its inclusion in communism.

Socialism tends to be non-religious, and most socialists pride themselves on being secular humanists.

All the same, as a person with no religion, I do see many positive organizing and stability reasons for religion in terms of history.

Sure, religious wars have taken place, but religion has also done much good in preaching codes of ethics.

Today in America, there's not much question that the Left wants America to be less a Christian nation but more of a Muslim one.
By Clownkicker
#71082
johnny, why do you do that?

You posted a mostly rational commentary and then end with absolute, unsupported, blithering made up nonsense.
"Today in America, there's not much question that the Left wants America to be less a Christian nation but more of a Muslim one."
^^^^^That's just plain idiotic. There's plenty of 'question' about the Left wanting a more Muslim nation.
In fact, I defy you to post a single statement by any recognized "Leftist" that can be interpreted as wanting a more Muslim nation.
You won't because you can't.

You keep calling me a leftist and I flat out deny your foolish statement. And no one I know wants it either. Why would any "Leftist" want a more religious nation of any kind? You clowns are always ridiculing the Left as being "Godless" fer cripes sake.
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By tvd
#71089
Clownkicker wrote: You clowns are always ridiculing the Left as being "Godless" fer cripes sake.
Well, I know ONE GODLESS sociopath motherfucker....that's for sure.

(Yes you.)
By johnforbes
#71126
Because the Left obviously favors the notion that America become less Christian, less capitalist, less free, more debt-ridden, with more welfare, more illegal immigrants....this is what the Left wants.

Why they want it is the deeper issue.
By elklindo69
#71132
johnforbes wrote:Because the Left obviously favors the notion that America become less Christian, less capitalist, less free, more debt-ridden, with more welfare, more illegal immigrants....this is what the Left wants.

Why they want it is the deeper issue.
Another numbskull who gets his talking points from bumper stickers.....

Not to mention the grammar that's inarticulate.
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By Malcolm
#71136
Cruz seeks election because the country is not Christian enough....
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By johnforbes
#71167
The whole point of Obama keeping open borders, and giving amnesty to illegals to lure more illegals in, and wanting uncheckable Syrians in, is to change America.

The Left wants America to be like Europe -- weak, debt-ridden, drowning in unassimilated Islamics, socialist, and powerless in the face of foreign threats.

Just recently, Obama was in London trying to keep the U.K. in the bloated, futile European Union.
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