[johnforbes]

Remember the lawmaker who yelled "You lie" to Obama when he claimed illegals would not get Obamacare?


WHEATON, Md.—When federal lawmakers wrote the act overhauling the nation’s health-care system six years ago, they ruled out any possibility of extending health insurance to illegal immigrants.
Local officials where many of those immigrants live are treating them anyway.

A Wall Street Journal survey of the 25 U.S. counties with the largest unauthorized immigrant populations found that 20 of them have programs that pay for the low-income uninsured to have doctor visits, shots, prescription drugs, lab tests and surgeries at local providers. The services usually are inexpensive or free to participants, who must prove they live in the county but are told their immigration status doesn’t matter.

Whether such programs are appropriate is a matter of debate

[RealJustme]

Wilson was right, Obama lied.

[Clownkicker]

"Local officials where many of those immigrants live are treating them anyway."-article

Why, THOSE SONS OF BITCHES!


johnforbes is trying to get you to believe that if there were no ACA, all these people would be sick and dying in the street, as they should no doubt.
Of course, somehow johnny managed to overlook the fact that he didn't show any of the programs were actually paid for by the ACA.

"For communities that provide care to illegal immigrants, the financial commitment is significant. Interviews with officials in the 25 counties indicated that local initiatives provide nonemergency care for at least 750,000 unauthorized immigrants across those counties, costing them more than $1 billion a year—almost all from local funds."-from the same article johnforbes posted, so he read it and knows he's lying

In other words, johnforbes is intentionally trying to mislead everyone by dishonestly linking this medical treatment to the ACA and the shout of "You lie!"
I wonder why Dishonest john did that?
He has already suckered RealTool with his lying.

[brandon]

25 counties spending a billion dollars every year on health care for almost a million illegal immigrants.

Sounds like a big problem for those taxpayers. I'd bet that some of them struggle to pay for their own health care.

[Clownkicker]

"County politicians figure it is cheaper, safer and easier to give basic health services to immigrants who can’t get insurance than to treat them only in the county’s emergency rooms.

“If federal programs exclude people who live here and get sick here, then someone has to care for them,” says George Leventhal, a Democratic council member who a decade ago started a local initiative to provide care to uninsured immigrants here in Montgomery County, Md., a suburb of Washington. “We all pay anyway.”"-johnforbes' article

What do you suggest should be done with these people, brandon?
And I mean real world suggestions, not pie-in-the-sky dream world 'they should all go home tomorrow' crap?
They won't.

What do you suggest be done with them TODAY?
And what is actually best and cheapest for the U.S. citizens in those counties?
For example, say the Zika virus appeared in your community. Would you think it a good idea to vaccinate the illegals in your town 'for free' along with everyone else? Or do you think it wise to let them pass it along to the next town?

[johnforbes]

Can I sneak into Mexico and get free health care courtesy of the Mexican taxpayers?

No, nor should I.

Where illegals should be getting sick -- or being well -- is on the streets of the nations where they are citizens.

[sillydaddy]

Pie-in-the-sky dreams.........then why are the illegals so afraid of Trump?

Trump is not going to forcibly deport 11 million illegals...but he can convince the people

that they are carrying all these illegals on their backs....and the people will do the rest....

maybe by simply denying them jobs....

or if an incentive is needed, some tax credits to benefit employers for not hiring illegals..

Or even a reward program for turning them in...after all they are criminals...maybe not dangerous

but criminals just the same... The main thing is to not make it easy for them to stay here illegally.
.

[tvd]

Fucking Clinton...AGAIN....

Look up a graph of illegal population starting with Reagan and ending with Odumbass.

I provided it quite a long time ago, before the great schism. A graph from CNN.

It clearly shows during Clinton's admin, illegal population went from 2 million to 8 million.

As I said, and have been saying....FUCKING Clinton, again.... :evil:

[tvd]

Oh, and a positive step in reducing the illegal population will be to remove the incentives for them to stay (free healthcare, anchor baby laws), prevent new ones from entering, and prosecute employers who hire them.

Then, initiate a program for transportation back to Mexico, which would be provided happily at their asking.

Oh, and Odumbass...here's a novel idea.....LET THE INS DO IT's JOB!!!! Fucking idiot tells the border patrol to look the other way....what a crock.

[johnforbes]

Mandatory E-Verify could quickly, easily, and cheaply end most of the hiring of illegals.

The game up, millions would self-deport.

Not all, but many.

And the illegals on Obamacare go well beyond that article, with many free clinics where citizenship will not be checked, so as Wilson said he did lie.

Clownhicker is also telling lies, but that is a daiily event and not newsworthy.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^johnforbes couldn't come up with a single case of illegals getting free care under the ACA. :lol:

Then he couldn't find a single lie in my post, so what does he do?
First he diverts and distracts, pointing everywhere but at the topic.
"Uhhh, there must be free clinics somewhere." :lol: But not from the ACA, dummy. That's local support again.

And then he accuses me of lying when he can't find one.
The Republican playbook in action: divert, distract, lie, then accuse the other guy of lying.
johnforbes has been taking lessons from RealTool.

[johnforbes]

Mandatory E-Verify could quickly, easily, and cheaply end most of the hiring of illegals.

The game up, millions would self-deport.

Not all, but many.

And the illegals on Obamacare go well beyond that article, with many free clinics where citizenship will not be checked, so as Wilson said he did lie.

Clownhicker is also telling lies, but that is a daily event and not newsworthy.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^^Repeat the lies many times, a la Trump and the Nazis, until the lies become 'true'.

Page two of the Republican playbook.

[johnforbes]

If the Mexican people offered this many incentives to break the law, 12 million Americans would sneak into Mexico and live there illegally.

It was always beyond dispute that Obamacare would be given to illegals via thousands of free clinics and other programs which have stated they do not check citizenship.

I don't blame illegals (except the criminals) for taking advantage of the stupidity of Democrats.

But American taxpayers have to pay for this insanity, and there are always leftist nuts to attempt to rationalize it (as Clownhicker is lamely attempting to do).

[elklindo69]

Illegals do not qualify for federal health care coverage nor can they purchase insurance over the exchanges.

Another Forbestardo lie.

Rinse...Wash...Repeat!!!

:lol:

[johnforbes]

Elkin, we all recognize your stupidity, but even with that you clearly didn't bother to read what I wrote.

I was correct.

Sad to say, illegals are getting Obamacare now, and they will through a variety of free clinics, and everybody (Gruber included) knew it all along.

Wilson was correct.

[elklindo69]

Illegals do not qualify for federal health care coverage nor can they purchase insurance over the exchanges.

Another Forbestardo lie.

Rinse...Wash...Repeat!!!

:lol:

[sillydaddy]

That's because they get it FREE! NumbNuts!

[Clownkicker]

It was always beyond dispute that johnforbes is a hypocritical ignoramus who has no idea what he's talking about.

Again he repeats his lie that free clinics have something to do with "Obamacare" and all he has to back it up is the claim that it is "beyond dispute".
The trouble is, anyone who knows what they're talking about disputes johnny's lie.
To be fair, johnforbes did dupe sillydaddy with his lie. (But it is beyond dispute that that is not a difficult thing to do with the dim witted.)

[sillydaddy]

Thousands of illegal immigrants have been allowed to illicitly enroll in and receive taxpayer-funded healthcare benefits from Obamacare......

http://www.newsmax.com/US/Obamacare-hea ... id/596383/

[Clownkicker]

Don't click on that link.

It dumped over 60 cookies onto my computer and froze it up twice when I cleared them off and tried the second time.
If you expect anyone to read that article you better copy-and-paste it onto this board.


Jesus H. Chrisis----NEWSMAX fer cripes sake.

[johnforbes]

One look at Clownobesers burgeoning belly and you'll realize he ate all 60 cookies.

If the Mexican people offered this many incentives to break the law, 12 million Americans would sneak into Mexico and live there illegally.

It was always beyond dispute that Obamacare would be given to illegals via thousands of free clinics and other programs which have stated they do not check citizenship.

I don't blame illegals (except the criminals) for taking advantage of the stupidity of Democrats.

But American taxpayers have to pay for this insanity, and there are always leftist nuts to attempt to rationalize it (as Clownhicker is lamely attempting to do).