[johnforbes]

What matters is what is true.

Hillary on 9/12/12 told the PM of Egypt that a video had "nothing" to do with Benghazi.

She told Chelsea the same.

Then she lied to the mother of one of the 4 brave dead men.

So we have the Sec of State, Rice, and Obama telling lies about Benghazi.

Elkin doesn't care, but he should care about a president and Sec of State lying about a foreign attack.

[Clownkicker]

Dimwit, we HIRE Secretaries of State to lie, just as we hire Presidents to lie.
We're talking international chess here, johnny, you naive child.
Sometimes we want our leaders to posture for the world in order to mislead them regarding the state of our knowledge and to give an impression of strength or weakness beyond the reality.

What do you think their job description is anyway?
The only thing that concerns me from these people is whether they help or hurt the nation.

Show us where these alleged lies hurt America and maybe someone will listen to your incessant droning.
Otherwise, dump your drool bucket and give us some peace from your yammering.

[johnforbes]

That is not even remotely honest.

No Democrat, and no "journalist," would tolerate such lies from a Republican Sec of State.

[Clownkicker]

So you CAN"T tell us how these alleged lies have hurt America?

That's what I thought.

You really need to read The Art of War again, johnny.

[tvd]

Just reinforces Clown's controlling mindset...dishonesty.

He is Ok with it. And again it reinforces my statement that liberal solutions dumb down expectations.
Liberals always lower the bar. Never raise it.

As in it is OK for our leaders to lie.....How about requiring integrity from our leaders rather than accept lying dishonest scumbags like Clinton to "lead"? That raises the bar rather than lowering it.

[sillydaddy]

Lies have always being part of the conducting of business between governments...they like to call it diplomacy.

But lying to one's own nation has never been tolerated...not even in Russia,China or North Korea, to name a few.

Lying at any level... creates mistrust.

I beg to differ with you Clown...Hillary was not hired to make up lies about the murders of Americans.

In the case of Benghazi...it appears lying was for selfish reasons and not to protect the nation.

If that is not the case....then Hillary was given the opportunity to make that clear....

Today the Demos are saying that Hillary requested this last hearing to set the record straight.

Yet she added nothing new to the investigation.

They see it as a victory...why?..simply because Hillary did not raise her voice or lose her "cool" during questioning!

and had her friends in the committee condemn every round of questions as harassment and

being politically motivated and giving Hillary every opportunity to make campaign speeches .

What about the families of those murdered...

where is their victory? Those families know no more about the deaths of their loved ones

than they did before.

[RealJustme]

Democrats don't care about contradictions made by other Democrats; facts don't matter, it's the sound bites they listen to. Today's Democrats don't care if what another Democrats says has no relationship to the facts, it's completely irrelevant to them.

[johnforbes]

In the new Democrat version of America, the law doesn't matter.

Lois Lerner can target Repubs, destroy evidence, and all is dandy.

Hillary can let 4 brave men die, not even try to rescue them, then lie about it, and all is fine.

[elklindo69]

Now that Hillary has testified under oath and according to the right wing...she lied.

Then this would constitute obstruction of justice. From what I know obstruction is a criminal offense. Now I suppose the right wing will have witnesses to 'refudiate' her testimony and debunk the lies!!!

[sillydaddy]

We are all witnesses Elk......she said she had a long list of things she could have done different about Benghazi..

When pressed for examples she couldn't name a single one ! :lol:

[elklindo69]

We are all witnesses Elk......she said she had a long list of things she could have done different about Benghazi..

When pressed for examples she couldn't name a single one ! :lol:

Well there are many things in life that I could have done differently but that's a different story.

But it's nice and convenient of you to admit the hearings are nothing more than a sham and a complete waste of taxpayer dollars. The the GOP went through an 11 hour cluster fuck and learned what...nothing!!!

And I suppose investigation number 9 will be the hearing where they will gather evidence to bring down Clinton on Obstruction charges....

Bravo SillyDaddy...way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: :mrgreen: :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:

[johnforbes]

No, according to Hillary's own email, she lied.

[elklindo69]

No, according to Hillary's own email, she lied.

Will investigation number #9 be the obstruction of justice hearings?

Waiting for the charges to come through.......................................................................

[Faceman675]

Dimwit, we HIRE Secretaries of State to lie, just as we hire Presidents to lie.
We're talking international chess here, johnny, you naive child.
Sometimes we want our leaders to posture for the world in order to mislead them regarding the state of our knowledge and to give an impression of strength or weakness beyond the reality.

What do you think their job description is anyway?
The only thing that concerns me from these people is whether they help or hurt the nation.

Show us where these alleged lies hurt America and maybe someone will listen to your incessant droning.
Otherwise, dump your drool bucket and give us some peace from your yammering.

So you are OK with Nixon's lying about the Water Gate break in? By your own standard "Show us where these alleged lies hurt America"

You would never accept, nor should you, this level of deceit from a republican administration. As with Nixon's lies about WG Hillary and the Obama admin were lying for political gain prior to an election. The big difference being that Nixon lied about a political dirty tricks (breaking into his opponents Campaign HQ) where Hillary's and Obama's lies were about the death of 4 Americans one of which was our ambassador.

[Clownkicker]

"So you are OK with Nixon's lying about the Water Gate break in? By your own standard "Show us where these alleged lies hurt America" "-Faceman

Jesus H. Chrisis, the break in was a crime.
Covering it up was a crime.
Conspiracy to commit crimes is a crime.
Lying under oath is a crime.
Obstructing justice is a crime.
Operating with illegal slush money is a crime.

And you wonder why I get so exasperated with you guys?
Crimes harm America. If you can't see a serious problem with Nixon's very real crimes, then there's no point in wasting any more time trying to enlighten you on the subject.

There have been seven investigations into Benghazi and not one of them came up with any criminal charges, or even accusations.
Not sending a rescue team into likely death is not a crime. You can disagree with the one who made that decision, but it is a legal decision.
Telling some parent of a dead serviceman a phony reason for their death (if in fact Hillary did that) is not a crime.
Our government lies to the parents of dead servicemen all the time when giving the real reason for the death would expose secret actions or jeopardize security for living operators or inform the enemy of our real intentions. And that's just a few of the reasons for doing so. This does no harm to America and often actually helps America.

All lies are not created equal.
Do you see any difference between the two cases yet?

[johnforbes]

By her own email, the Sec of State lied about Benghazi.

She told her own daughter she knew it was terrorism, then lied in public for 3 weeks after.

Four brave men died in Benghazi WITH NO RESCUE ATTEMPT.

Obama flew off the next morning to a fundraiser in Vegas.

Hillary deleted THIRTY TWO THOUSAND OF HER EMAILS.

[Clownkicker]

See? Even johnforbes agrees with me.

He didn't even try to refute a thing I said.

[sillydaddy]

I myself...am left speechless ...after reading Clown's post.

[RealJustme]

Not sending a rescue team into likely death is not a crime.

Lying under oath is a crime and it's been proven Hillary and several high ranking Obama members have lied under oath. It's especially egregious since their lies involves covering up the deaths of Americans. Lying under oath to cover up murders is a felony in any court in America. But to Clown breaking into an office is a worse crime. :o

Oh, by the way, Clown doesn't like Hillary or Obama. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[johnforbes]

Watergate was a tiny, tiny problem compared to Benghazi, the perversion of the IRS to go after political enemies, and the gigantic lies told about Obamacare.

But I was glad Nixon paid a price for Watergate.

Now, for far larger scandals, Obama is worshipped by liberals.

[Clownkicker]

"I myself...am left speechless ...after reading Clown's post."-sillydaddy

Now there's the first reactionary here that has enough sense to just shut up when he realizes he's got nothing to say.

Sadly, RealTool and johnforbes clearly didn't learn that lesson yet.
They can't refute anything I said, but they still keep yammering.

[RealJustme]

They can't refute anything I said

Other than defending Obama and Hillary with hollow words what did you say? How about some facts to support your argument they're innocent.

[Clownkicker]

I haven't made an argument that they're innocent, so feel free to go fuck yourself, Tool. :lol:

[johnforbes]

Watergate was a tiny, tiny problem compared to Benghazi, the perversion of the IRS to go after political enemies, and the gigantic lies told about Obamacare.

But I was glad Nixon paid a price for Watergate.

Now, for far larger scandals, Obama is worshipped by liberals.