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#63407
Here's a taste of extreme GOP bullshittery..............

Chart shown at Planned Parenthood hearing is misleading and 'ethically wrong'

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The chart features a pair of lines crossing — one headed upward (abortions) and the other headed downward (cancer screening and prevention services).

When referring to the chart in the hearing, Chaffetz said, "In pink, that's the reduction in the breast exams, and the red is the increase in the abortions. That's what's going on in your organization."

"This is a slide that has never been shown to me before," Richards responded. "Excuse me, my lawyer is informing me that the source of this is actually Americans United for Life, which is an anti-abortion group. So, I would check your source."

"Then we will get to the bottom of the truth of that," Chaffetz agreed.


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#63419
Hey Elk....

So you are saying the Chaffetz chart is a lie.

Ok, first of all, what is wrong with Chaffetz chart? Go ahead, tell us exactly what the problem with it is.
I don't think you know, oh statistical genius.

I am waiting for your precise explanation...you know, a true, honest, concise explanation of why chart one is wrong.

Secondly, If PP advice is to check the accuracy of the source (attorney advice to Chaffetz), then why shouldn't a prudent person check the accuracy of PP's chart? Who says that one is right?
#63427
^^^^^^And apparently johnforbes is dumber than that. What county are you from, johnny?
Not to mention Homo AssClown Loser Insipid. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: He's too stupid to get it too.

None of these clowns here even understand you can't put two graphs done to different scales on the same chart.
For that matter, any chart without a vertical scale is pretty much worthless to begin with.

If these clowns understood this, they would be here acknowledging the dishonesty of Chaffetz instead of ridiculing the guy who came and told them the truth.


The reactionary right----don't like the ugly, embarrassing truth? Shoot the messenger. :shock:
Fuck every last one of you dishonest scum.
#63429
By the way, tvd, the Planned Parenthood chart is correct because it contains the exact same data as the first chart, only it is graphed to the same scale, not to different scales.
If you want to question the data, then you have to question Chaffetz's data as well.

I suspect you understand this already, but did you come here and say "I hate to say it, but elklindo is right this time"?
No, you came here carrying water for your handlers, trying to give the impression that elklindo is wrong when you know he isn't.
That makes you complicit in the deceit.

Either Chaffetz knew the chart was bogus, which makes him a liar, just like the organization who created the chart, or else he's too stupid to be in Congress because he doesn't understand how he's being duped by the liars feeding him the lies they want spread.
Which is worse? You tell me.
#63442
So tell me what is wrong with the things I said, dimwit.
Insipid-like yammering does not an argument make.

Show me what isn't "true" in my post.

But you won't because you can't. You're just another reactionary mental limp dick.
#63446
I'll tell you EXACTLY what is wrong with your post.

You ASSUME that I was defending the incorrect version....the one with two Y axis scales (no scale).

I wasn't. So there's that....

You ASSUMED just like you rant about all the time.
Now, watch him say "Don't make up shit and attribute it to me...."
Or, "you used the wrong word"
Or, "you forgot the period at the end of the line above this one...."
Or, "Thank Allah for Elton John...." Wait, what?
Oh yeah. They would have stoned him to death....

I was pointing out that it was very suspicious that Elk posted up his example of "lies", did not expressly explain why it was a "lie", just called it a lie, and appeared he likely did not even know what was wrong with the chart.

But you chime in, run in on your stallion, and save his ass.....

I also argued that if you suspect the source of the data on the "lie" , then an astute person would also question PPs data as skewed also.

We had a heated discussion on abortion a few months back. I was finding numbers like 900k per year.
PPs numbers show 328??k over six years.

I question their numbers, because they have just as much reason to lie about it as the GOP has to mis-represent on a bogus chart.

So there's that....

Now go run a coat hanger up some 8 month along pregnant girl, retrieve the rug rat, and sell it.
Do what you advocate.
#63447
No, tvd, I didn't assume any of the things you said I assumed.
I didn't assume you supported the first chart.
Wrong again.

I knew perfectly well you at least guessed that elklindo was right and that you knew the first chart was bogus and the second chart was right.
That's why I said "I suspect you understand this already, but did you come here and say "I hate to say it, but elklindo is right this time"?
No, you came here carrying water for your handlers, trying to give the impression that elklindo is wrong when you know he isn't.
That makes you complicit in the deceit."

So that is not something wrong with my post.
It is something wrong with your reading comprehension.

You're just pissed at me because I didn't let you go beat up the little kid on the play field like a typical bully.
You couldn't argue that he was wrong, so you came to distract from the truth by trying to embarrass him because you think he didn't know why he was right.
That's just pathetic.
You're like the preppy asshole in Good Will Hunting that tries to embarrass the guy from Southy in front of his date with a bunch of arrogant stupidity but someone stepped in to stop you and showed you for what you really are.

You can thank me for another true post.
#63449
But you can't say WHAT is supposedly wrong about it.

I thought as much.

Or are you saying you DIDN'T know the first chart is bogus and the second correct? :lol:

In that case, I will apologize for overestimating you.
Seriously.
#63451
On this crisp, autumnal afternoon, it seems utterly salient to observe:

If you look closely at that chart, the down-sloping arrow reveals Clownhacker's organic brain syndrome.

As you can see, his brain -- never what one might call robust -- is headed downward toward mush.
#63454
Clownkicker wrote:But you can't say WHAT is supposedly wrong about it.

I thought as much.

Or are you saying you DIDN'T know the first chart is bogus and the second correct? :lol:

In that case, I will apologize for overestimating you.
Seriously.
No, as your idol said...."What difference does it make????"
I have come to this conclusion about you:

Joe Walsh, 1976 "You can't argue with a sick mind"

It aint worth my trouble.
#63457
You clearly can't argue with ANY kind of mind, tvd.

You hold a bunch of vague, sloppy opinions in a mushy mind. If anyone challenges any of them, you accuse the other guy of being sick to mask your intellectual ossification. You can't defend anything you believe with rational discussion or argument. When you're backed into a corner, rather than learn something, you just run away pretending the other guy is the coward.

You're the poster boy for the reactionary Right: just generally dimwitted without a rational justification for anything you believe.
#63458
On this fine autumn evening, with the stars twinkling in a clear sky, one must observe:

Clownhicker's report card from his senior year of high school (the same year he turned 32), read thusly:

"Poster boy for the kneejerk Left. Generally dim and witless without a rational justification for anything he believes."
#63461
tvd wrote:Hey Elk....

So you are saying the Chaffetz chart is a lie.

Ok, first of all, what is wrong with Chaffetz chart? Go ahead, tell us exactly what the problem with it is.
I don't think you know, oh statistical genius.

I am waiting for your precise explanation...you know, a true, honest, concise explanation of why chart one is wrong.

Secondly, If PP advice is to check the accuracy of the source (attorney advice to Chaffetz), then why shouldn't a prudent person check the accuracy of PP's chart? Who says that one is right?
Were you sleeping in math class when they taught how to plot a graph using the X and Y coordinates. So why don't you take a close look at Chaffetz's chart. Did you happen to notice that it has 'years' on the X coordinate. But it doesn't have any units on the Y coordinate?

Do you know why units are placed on a chart? To put the data into proper perspective..

HMMMMM...

Now Chaffetz didn't check the chart...BULLSHIT!

It actually was a chart provided by an anti-abortion group...

:roll:
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