Political discussions about everything
#56521
Somebody on TV the other day asked this question: "If Obama were not working in the best interest of America, what would he be doing differently?"

From terrible economic policy, to horrible foreign policy, to socialized medicine, to higher taxes, to enormous deficits, to lies about Benghazi, lies about Obamacare, lies about the IRS...
#56542
I don't know about the bounties but I feel we should have paid for scalps instead of whole bodies, would saved everyone a lot of time and money.


Concerning the deal Obama is working out with Cuba, Castro says he doesn't trust the United States but he does trust Obama, that's very telling that Obama doesn't have America's interests in mind in the talks. Obama will indeed give the farm away.
#56543
So negotiating to give back occupied land is ridiculous, Tool?

If Castro had Cuban troops sitting in south Florida for 50 years, I guess negotiating to 'give it back' would be absurd on his part and against the best interests of the Cuban people, right?

Ending what is essentially a 54-year state of war is against the interests of the American people?
That's your position?
Why do you think a perpetual state of war is in our interest?

The fact that Guantanamo is indisputably on Cuban land and thus not subject to U.S. law is the very reason for having the prison camp there, Tool.
#56553
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Why do you think a perpetual state of war is in our interest? ~~ Clown
We are no more at war with Cuba than we are with Russia. But they are both Communist....and we as a Democracy can not trust these Communist countries no further than we can throw them. And if I remember correctly, right now, we have sanctions against both of them.
#56586
The Cuban government seized over a trillion dollars in property and equipment from Americans, that's what started the whole riff, until they give it back there can be no discussions of making nice with the Cuban government. My Grandfathers business was taken from him and his home because he refused to join the communist party, now Obama wants to make things right with the Cuban government by giving them my tax money? :shock:

What we see from Obama is him tossing our enemies lifelines on the tax payers' backs.

Carlos
#56589
"My Grandfathers business was taken from him and his home because he refused to join the communist party,..."-RealDuped

Undoubtedly, then, you support the Palestinians over Israel because in 1948 the Israelis took their land and homes and you don't want diplomatic relations with Israel until they give it all back?

I'm surprised that you hold such a consistent position on this issue.
You're usually nothing but a hypocrite.
#56596
Undoubtedly, then, you support the Palestinians over Israel because in 1948 the Israelis took their land and homes and you don't want diplomatic relations with Israel until they give it all back?
You compare Palestinians to Cubans? Cubans are a hard working people taken over by a communist government. Palestinians are lazy land squatters who elected a terrorists government. Israel gave them land to live on and they used it to set up military operations against women and children, Israel took their land back.
#56615
sillydaddy wrote:In 1996, Congress passed a law insisting Cuba repay Americans for what was taken, before the embargo can be lifted.

Let's see if Obama obeys this law.....
Cuba must be a car collectors dream.

I want to get my hands on a bottle of Cuban rum...
#56620
Cuba must be a car collectors dream
Not to a real collector, they're rusted 500,000 mile cars patched together with very few of the original parts, including scrap metal, engines and parts from different models and very little left from the car as it started out. The cars are amusing but of little value to collectors. Leave it up a liberal like Clown to try and justify the billions this will cost America in exchange for pieces of junk cars and cigars. :lol:
#56624
RealJustme wrote:
Cuba must be a car collectors dream
Not to a real collector, they're rusted 500,000 mile cars patched together with very few of the original parts, including scrap metal, engines and parts from different models and very little left from the car as it started out. The cars are amusing but of little value to collectors. Leave it up a liberal like Clown to try and justify the billions this will cost America in exchange for pieces of junk cars and cigars. :lol:
Whoever said that "all" of the cars would be "completely" authentic!

Did you really think that all of the collector cars in the US are completely "authentic."

BTW...What the hell is wrong with the United States having normalized relations with Cuba? Are the Cubans sponsors of state terrorism? No. Do they run a dictatorship? Yes. But so does China.

Cuba will be eventually be nothing more than a tourist destination.
#56644
"You compare Palestinians to Cubans?"-RealTool

No, I compared taking homes and businesses from one group of humans to taking homes and businesses from another group of humans. I think the injustices should be judged equally while you think they should be judged differently because you're a bigot. And we know you're a bigot because the only difference in the losses of each group are that one group is Cuban and the other group is Arab. Oh yeah, and that the Cubans could freely go to the U.S. and thrive while the Arabs never could and were put into desert concentration camps. What a douche bag.


"Cubans are a hard working people taken over by a communist government. Palestinians are lazy land squatters who elected a terrorists government."-RealTool

Tool, the Cubans did it to themselves.
If the Batista government wasn't so oppressive and corrupt, there wouldn't have been a civil war in the first place.
The Palestinians were invaded. They had nothing to do with it.
That in itself makes the Palestinians more sympathetic than the Cubans.

And by the way, someone is not a "land squatter" just because you kick them out of their home and force them onto a reservation.


"Israel gave them land to live on and they used it to set up military operations against women and children, Israel took their land back."-RealTool

Israel had no right to "give" them anything, dimwit. It wasn't theirs to give.
The Israelis didn't 'take their land back'. They were invading non-Semitic Jews from Europe. They had nothing to do with Palestine. They never owned it at any time in history.
And why the conservative double speak? Taking away someone's home where they've been for thousands of years is not "giving them" something, you evil scumbag.
And the Israelis didn't even 'give' them the reservation. The U.N. did. The Israelis just kicked them out.

Are you also going to pretend that if a hoard of Europeans invaded and threw you out of your home, that you wouldn't attack them back when all other peaceful means were denied to you?
#56654
The historical presence of the Jewish people in the ‘Holy Land’ is well-documented, and visible in extensive archeological remains, but also in historic writings by early Greek, Roman, pagan, and other visitors to the area. The Palestinians are from Arab countries who were pushed out and chose to settle on Israeli lands. Israel allowed them to settle there until they attacked Israel and tried to push Israeli's off their lands. This is all documented, history books can be rewritten just because you hate Jews. Palestinians are the trailer trash of the Arab world, exactly why no Arab country will allow them on their lands. It was the Israeli's who took them in only to be betrayed.
#56657
.......Thus began in November of 1947 what is euphemistically called the ethnic cleansing of Palestine by the combined forces of the Jewish armies, the Haganah, the Stern, and the Irgun as they drove more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs from their homes leaving them destitute, homeless and abandoned without a country in what is now the largest refugee Diaspora in the world.....

Just, I don't hate anybody.....I hate injustice .....Peace
#56662
You know it's real easy for me to tell a friend from an enemy. Right after 9/11 Palestinians by the thousands poured into the streets celebrating for hours even shutting down businesses to allow their employees to join in on the festivities... while Israeli's lit candles and prayed for those who were killed and their families, Israeli's then vowed to help us track down the scum bags involved. SCREW the Palestinians.

Now back to Cuba, please don't try and compare a Cuban to a Palestinian, Cubans for the most part are good hard working people who don't want to kill anyone.
#56667
"You know it's real easy for me to tell a friend from an enemy."-RealTool

You really need to learn the difference between a "friend" and an "ally".
Israel holds the U.S. in contempt and only uses us for money and military support.
The minute we are no longer useful to them they will stab us in the back. (Remember the USS Liberty)

But why would you be surprised that the Palestinians don't like us?
We have supported Israel in every atrocity they have perpetrated against the Palestinians for decades.
We are the sole obstacle to any justice at all for the Palestinians in the U.N..

Now back to Cuba, we see the conservative hypocrisy at its most revolting.
You pretend moral outrage when your own family suffers some offense to their human rights, and then you perpetrate the same injustice on someone else and blame them rather than yourself. "SCREW 'em."
You have repeatedly blocked all legal means to any justice whatsoever for the Palestinians.
Then you wonder why they hate you and resort to violence.

If you want to see why Palestinians were cheering at 9/11 all you need to do is look in a mirror.
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