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#54531
Bill O'Reilly's account of a 1982 riot in Argentina is being sharply contradicted by seven other journalists who were his colleagues and were also there at the time.

The people all challenge O'Reilly's depiction of Buenos Aires as a "war zone" and a "combat situation." They also doubt his description of a CBS cameraman being injured in the chaos.

"Nobody remembers this happening," said Manny Alvarez, who was a cameraman for CBS News in Buenos Aires.
Jim Forrest, who was a sound engineer for CBS there, said that when he heard O'Reilly retell the Argentina riot story to interviewer Marvin Kalb several years ago, he contacted Kalb and said "I was on that crew, and I don't recall his version of events."

The contradictions come several days after Mother Jones, a left-leaning magazine, first reported about the discrepancies in O'Reilly's claims about his coverage of the Falklands War. O'Reilly was a young correspondent for CBS News at the time, assigned to cover the war from Buenos Aires, which was more than 1,000 miles from the offshore conflict zone.

In the years since, O'Reilly -- now the biggest star on Fox News -- has repeatedly referred to his experience in the "war zone."

In his 2001 book, "The No Spin Zone," O'Reilly wrote, "I've reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands."

On his show "The O'Reilly Factor" in 2013, O'Reilly told a guest, "I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands, where my photographer got run down and then hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete. And the army was chasing us. I had to make a decision. And I dragged him off, you know, but at the same time, I'm looking around and trying to do my job, but I figure I had to get this guy out of there because that was more important."

Mother Jones challenged some of these claims. O'Reilly responded by accusing the magazine of trying to smear him to hurt Fox News, and said the report's co-author, David Corn, is a liar and an "irresponsible guttersnipe."
Eric Engberg, a CBS correspondent who was also in Buenos Aires at the time, defended Corn in a Facebook post on Friday and said, "It was not a war zone or even close. It was an 'expense account zone.'"
Longtime NBC News correspondent George Lewis, who was also there at the time, agreed with Engberg, writing on Facebook, "Cushiest war I ever covered."

Did O'Reilly's photographer get "run down" and bloodied?
CNN has interviewed seven people who were there for CBS, and none of them recall anyone from the network being injured.

"If somebody got hurt, we all would have known," Alvarez said.
In a Friday interview with radio host Hugh Hewitt, O'Reilly said the photographer's last name was Moreno. Roberto Moreno was there for CBS. He now lives in Venezuela, and he declined to comment to CNN.

But Mia Fabius, who was the office manager for the CBS Miami bureau at the time, has stayed in touch with Moreno for decades, and she said Moreno has never spoken about any injury in Argentina.
Further, Fabius said no injury report was ever filed.

Engberg, Alvarez and Forrest spoke on the record about their recollections of the Argentina coverage. Four other people who were there for CBS spoke on condition of anonymity, some because they still work in the television industry and others because they don't want to be publicly criticized by O'Reilly.

All of the people said they're unaware of any civilians being killed in the riot. In O'Reilly's 2001 book, he said "many were killed."

"There were certainly no dead people," Forrest said. "Had there been dead people, they would have sent more camera crews."

Alvarez called the claims of deaths "outrageous, outrageous."
"People being mowed down? Where was that? That would have been great footage. That would have turned into the story," he said.

CNN's report from Buenos Aires at the time described "a squad of tear-gas-armed troops" and a crowd "hurling coins, rocks, and even bricks at both police and journalists," but no deaths.

O'Reilly has repeatedly defended his claims, including on Fox News on Sunday morning. "I don't know if he was there," O'Reilly said, implying that Engberg may not have witnessed the riot. He called Engberg "Room Service Eric," alleging he often stayed in his hotel during unfolding news events.

Speaking on CNN, Engberg called that "the most absurd thing I've ever heard" and said "I never ordered room service during a riot." Engberg also said he, as well as an entire team from CBS, was out in Buenos Aires and in a position to see the protest.

O'Reilly also cited a New York Times account of the riot that said "one policeman pulled a pistol, firing five shots over the heads of fleeing demonstrators." This supports the depiction of a dangerous protest, though does not confirm O'Reilly's claim that people were killed that night.
#54541
RealJustme wrote:
O'Reilly responded by accusing the far left magazine of trying to smear him to hurt Fox News, and said the report's co-author, David Corn, is a liar and an "irresponsible guttersnipe."
There you have it!
Correction...Hoax news.

BTW...Other than personal insults, O'Reilly has not debunked the accusations. I suppose he's still trying to get the 'facts' straight.

LMAO

:lol:
#54575
The leftists at CBS and NBC were doubtless sad when Brian WIlliams had to leave.

Now they sense an opportunity to take down somebody else.

For my part, I don't even take any pleasure in Williams having to leave because the big issue was not him, but NBC's refusal to dig into the lies told about Benghazi, the IRS, and Obamacare.
#54576
What I don't understand is why if he's so bad they had to go back to 1982 to try and find something that he said that might not be true?

What about Obama, Hillary, Rice, Kerry or anyone on Obama's staff? Every time they talk, it's proven they're lying.

1982 :lol: :lol: :lol:
#54599
Obama and Hillary told gigantic lies about a video causing Benghazi just to win the November 2012 election.

4 dead people, who heroically defended at Benghazi, and Obama and Hillary looked their surviving parents in the eye at Andrews and lied.

There really is no journalism left at all.
#54604
He get's it, so why can't you?
Get what? The story against O'Reilly has been totally debunked, NBC even came up with video showing O'Reilly was 100% spot on, the CBS reporter has retracted his story, but to late O'Reilly is suing his lying ass. So what were you saying Clown?
#54607
RealJustme wrote:
He get's it, so why can't you?
Get what? The story against O'Reilly has been totally debunked, NBC even came up with video showing O'Reilly was 100% spot on, the CBS reporter has retracted his story, but to late O'Reilly is suing his lying ass. So what were you saying Clown?
A fact free rebuttal?

Anything else new from Hoax News?

OH Wait, lying about Mother Jones reporters and threatening NY Times reporters!!!

You're hired!!!

:lol:

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#54608
johnforbes wrote:Obama and Hillary told gigantic lies about a video causing Benghazi just to win the November 2012 election.

4 dead people, who heroically defended at Benghazi, and Obama and Hillary looked their surviving parents in the eye at Andrews and lied.

There really is no journalism left at all.
Lying Politicians.

Forbestardo has struck gold!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
#54677
O'R is apparently going to file lawsuits, so this will all be sorted out on the civil side.

But why is this going on?

Liberals hated to see liberal Brian Williams, "newsman," go, so they looked for somebody on Fox to attack.

Liberals cannot proceed without name-calling and without such gutter tactics.
#54680
johnny's upset because liberals found a comparable "newsman" on FOX to go after?

If they should go after Williams, why shouldn't they go after anyone like him, johnny?

By the way, notice the difference between NBC and FOXnews.
NBC let's the liar go.
FOXnews keeps him on and gives him endless air time.

As Menkin once said, nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of FOXnews viewers.
#54682
NBC let's the liar go.
FOXnews keeps him on and gives him endless air time.
What you don't understand Elk is that the allegations were proven against Brian, the allegations against O'Reilly have been debunked as quick as they come in. If it's proven O'Reilly lied as it was proven Edward lied, then of course O'Reilly would have to go. Rice, Hillary, Obama, Kerry have all been caught in proven lies but yet they remain, that's the liberal way.
#54683
"Liberals cannot proceed without name-calling and without such gutter tactics."-johnforbes

"Apparently" johnny missed the first non-refutation of charges by O'Reilly which consisted of very little besides name-calling and such gutter tactics.

Bill is constantly calling names in every anti-liberal bloviation I see of his.
It's practically his trademark.
#54702
Tool, that's so amateurish only a dimwit like johnforbes will fall for it.

Just who are you trying to fool?
There's only you, me, johnforbes, and Elklindo here for the most part.
You certainly aren't fooling Grog.
I suppose you might fool sillydaddy.
#54726
Please! somebody get me a fucking tourniquet!!! :lol:

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#55599
I don't have the heart to suggest that Clownlacker learn how to spell "Menkin" (sic)

On a positive note, all of us in this wonderful forum have helped to repair the yawning gaps in Clownslacker's "education."

Can we fix it totally? Of course not. Clowndoper's doltish cognitive function is beyond repair.
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