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By RealJustme
#53506
The question is will the lawyers be raping a man or a woman? Jenner has spend 100's of thousands transforming himself into a woman and today at high rate of speed he rear ended a Lexus knocking the car into the path of an oncoming Hummer killing the Lexus driver and sending 5 other people to the hospital seriously injured. This happened in Malibu and the ambulance chasers are already flying in from New York to represent those Jenner injured and killed.

Jenner better have a damn good umbrella policy because everyone involved are wealthy meaning one of "them" getting killed or injured means setting things right will be VERY, VERY costly. I'm betting they'll exhaust his car insurance and his umbrella policy then go after her personal fortune. You can bet his insurance companies are already drafting up checks for their policy limits to avoid years of court costs and attorney fees knowing the victims will end up getting the policy limits in the end. Once they do that all court and attorney fees will be Jenner's responsibility plus any additional monies the courts give the victims. Jenner may end up having to pull tricks on the street corner after they get done with his (her ?) ass!
#53510
A former Olympic hero transvestite getting into a deadly accident in Malibu and ambulance chasers swarming in from New York is political. It's a prime example of how screwed up liberal havens have become.
#53514
Another thing, anyone besides an elite in California that rearends another car killing someone they would be behind bars facing manslaughter charges and it would be several days before they would be released on bail pending the outcome. In this case the police drove "it" home and interviewed "it" through "it's" lawyer. Maybe they didn't take "it" to jail because they couldn't decide to lock "it" up with the men or the women? Either way "it" would have complained, it's terrible when we don't know if it's proper PC to call an "it" a man or a women, the liberal madness continues.

Lately Obama has been on this transvestite rights agenda even bringing it up at his last UN speech, I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't send someone from his staff to insure Jenner knows he's loved and is special. :lol:
#53564
Not that Jenner is a politician or necessarily even a hypocrite, but it would be interesting to know how a fellow deemed among the world's best athletes managed to dodge the draft and evade Vietnam.
#53567
It's not interesting at all, dimwit.

Everyone got a number and usually no one over about "50" of 366 got called up.
You only had about a one-in-seven chance of being drafted to begin with.

Those with numbers over 75 didn't even have to worry about it.

It's not interesting to intelligent people. It's only interesting to the dimwitted who don't understand basic probability.
#53605
Jesus H. Chrisis you guys are dishonest scum.

Jenner was born in October 1949.
He became theoretically eligible to be drafted when he turned 18 in October 1967, but he was still in school.
The lottery was put in place two years later in 1969.
By the time Jenner left college he already had a number (98) that told him it was very unlikely he would be called up in the future.
Once the Lottery was in place most people weren't in the position of needing to "dodge" the draft.

The trouble is, tools like johnforbes see someone getting their college education as a "dodge".
I can't stop him from believing that, but his ignorant beliefs don't make them true.

Regardless, the draft was like taxes: if the government says you don't owe them, you don't owe them.
johnforbes doesn't call his tax deductions a tax "dodge". He calls them legitimate deductions that the government says he doesn't owe tax on.
But he will hypocritically call a deferment a draft "dodge".

As usual, johnforbes is totally uninformed.........and stupid.
#53611
People only got numbers when they got numbers -- after a lottery came in.

As usual, Clownhicker is totally uninformed.

On the bright side, Clownhicker's egregious stupidity did compel him to do some Googling.

But the pregnant question remains:

How did Jenner, who bragged about being the best athlete on the planet, dodge the draft and evade Vietnam?
#53613
johnny, what good is a "Weltbild" you can only maintain through dishonesty?
As usual, you're the one who is actually uninformed.

I already explained to you why Jenner was never subject to the draft.
No question, pregnant or otherwise, remains in this case.
Jenner didn't "dodge" anything. That you continue to imply that he did is dishonest.

But perhaps your problem arises out of your misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "dodge".
As you're the kind of dimwit that needs to be spoon-fed, I'll spell it out for you.

Say you're walking down the sidewalk and you notice a baseball flying at your head.
If you have any sense, you duck or jump out of its way.
That would be "dodging" the ball--a quick evasive movement.

Now say you're walking down the sidewalk and you notice a baseball hit the building a block ahead of you.
You don't respond and continue your walk.
This is not a "dodge" because you didn't take any action, evasive or otherwise. You were never at risk.

To pretend that you "dodged" the baseball that hit the wall a block ahead of you is to simply abuse the English language while pretending you aren't.
You're using what you see as a pejorative term that doesn't apply to the situation in order to damage someone's reputation or character. That makes you scum.

Jenner was an athlete with a full scholarship to college.
He always intended to go to college. He didn't go to college in order to avoid the draft.
As an athlete, it would be stupid to waste four years of your short career if you don't have to, especially if it gets you an education at the same time. There was no reason for him to do otherwise.
He was never drafted or even under the threat of being drafted. He didn't write the rules.
He went about his life without modifying his trajectory in the least because of the draft.
Thus, he didn't "dodge" anything. It's called living your life.

To attempt to impugn the character of a person simply because they went about their life (and you didn't) only reflects on your lack of judgement and morals.
If the government says you're free to go about your life as you see fit, then you're free to go about your life as you see fit.
Usually that's the Republican drone. "Keep the government out of my life."
But in a case like this, your ilk never has a problem with hypocrisy.
#53617
RealJustme wrote:I've often thought Clown and Elk are the same person, they both fabricate numbers and data, seldom telling the truth.
today at high rate of speed he rear ended a Lexus knocking the car into the path of an oncoming Hummer killing the Lexus driver and sending 5 other people to the hospital seriously injured.

define a "high rate of speed" and how does it relate to the accident???

:shock:
#53621
define a "high rate of speed" and how does it relate to the accident???
It was fast enough to smash in the rear of a large Lexus knocking the Lexus into another lane resulting in the woman in the Lexus being smashed to death, how's that? It appears he was toking on a joint at the time of impact.
#53626
RealJustme wrote:
define a "high rate of speed" and how does it relate to the accident???
It was fast enough to smash in the rear of a large Lexus knocking the Lexus into another lane resulting in the woman in the Lexus being smashed to death, how's that? It appears he was toking on a joint at the time of impact.
1. At what speed does a collision have to occur for a car to get 'moved' into oncoming traffic.

2. Now Jenner was "toking on a joint?" I thought he was on the phone? Or was he toking and talking? Maybe it was fault of the Google self driving car???

:shock:
#53644
Clownslacker, of course, believes like all good socialists that he has no obligation to society other than to take welfare.

People only got numbers when they got numbers -- after a lottery came in.

As usual, Clownhicker is totally uninformed.

On the bright side, Clownhicker's egregious stupidity did compel him to do some Googling.

But the pregnant question remains:

How did Jenner, who bragged about being the best athlete on the planet, dodge the draft and evade Vietnam?
#53646
Now Jenner was "toking on a joint?" I thought he was on the phone? Or was he toking and talking? Maybe it was fault of the Google self driving car???
Clown if he was just a rich white male you wouldn't be trying to defend him, but since he's a dope smoking transvestite it's OK hilled that woman. The police will determine if he was smoking joint while texting, it will all come out, what's for sure is he was going to fast to stop killing the elderly lady in the car he hit. Photos show he wasn't braking at the time of the impact, he was in his own zone.
#53651
There you go making up shit again, Tool.
I didn't say anything you attributed to me.
Your lying is getting more and more frequent.

But the joke is on you this time.
Now it turns out that you blaming this accident on Jenner is just more of your ignorance while jumping the gun to blame someone you don't like without waiting for the facts, as always.

Jenner didn't cause the accident and likely isn't liable at all.
In my state, even if you rear end someone, if the car you rear end is in the accident first, the first offender is responsible for the entire pile up, regardless of how fast the next car is going. I know this for a fact because I went to court to testify for a woman that rear ended someone who did something really stupid, turning across two lanes of traffic without signalling and then stopping in the middle of the road to be hit. There was no way to avoid hitting him no matter how fast you were going.
He then drove away as a truck exceeding the speed limit by at least 10 mph rear ended the stopped woman.

The woman (the only good driver in the entire accident) was held responsible for the entire accident, even though the guy who started the accident left the scene and the truck was speeding. If he had been doing the speed limit he wouldn't have hit her before stopping.

What speaks volumes about you is that you completely ignore the person who was probably making an illegal U turn, stopped in the road, and try to place blame on someone who likely had no responsibility at all.
And why do you do this?
Because the guy you blame is transgender. No other reason.

You aren't just a racist, you're a bigot as well.
#53653
"His Lordship, of course, believes like all good socialists that he has no obligation to society other than to take welfare."-Dimwit

johnferity, like all good reactionary tools, believes that military service is a de facto service to society.
What he dreads is that someday he will have to face the fact that what he did in Vietnam was a great disservice to the U.S., both domestically and internationally.

No, johnny, you were only serving your transient politicians, not society.
You may be forgiven for your ignorance as a kid, but you cannot be forgiven for your continued ignorance when you should know better.
Don't go blaming "obligation to society" for it. Concentration camp guards hid behind the same philosophy and they were wrong too.
#53655
Soldiers, of course, don't make foreign policy.

Even if they did, Korea, Vietnam, etc were part of the larger Cold War -- important to win.

As to Jenner, he paraded about proclaiming himself the best athlete in the world while dodging the draft, thus consigning lesser athletes to protect him.
#53664
Jenner didn't cause the accident and likely isn't liable at all.
Clown, he killed a woman, what is your obsession with defending this transvestite?

Drivers must keep a safe stopping distance at all times, if the car in front of you suddenly stops due to an accident that does not give you the go ahead to rear end them. Notice that all the cars behind Jenner were able to safely stop without rear ending anyone.
#53667
No, it appears the person stopped in the middle of the road killed her.

I didn't write the law, and neither did Jenner. It doesn't matter what you or I think.
There is no justice. There is only justice under the law.
You idiots need to learn that understanding the law in general is not the same as "defending" someone in particular.
johnforbes should know this, but apparently not.

Your understanding of the portion of the law about "safe stopping distance" is probably wrong.
If you care to, look up the law in California. I don't care to. I don't really care.
Why? Because I always drive as if everyone in front of me is a moron.
More often than not, I'm right.

I think at least 40% to 50% of all people on the road are likely unfit to hold a license, just like johnforbes is unfit to hold a license to practice law. That's simply a practical evaluation of what I see every day. But I can't think of a reasonable way to revoke their licenses that would be fair.
EVERYBODY who talks on the phone or texts while driving, hands free or not, should be cited for reckless driving, at the very least. I don't care if you think you can "multitask". I bet 90% of those calls are about garbage of no importance, or of no urgency, even to the person engaged in them.
EVERYBODY practicing law who starts childish hate threads when they're shown to be wrong demonstrates extremely bad judgment and a petulant, humorless, and vindictive nature when the facts go against them, especially after calling other people childish beforehand.

From the way they drive, I'd guess that 30% of them don't even understand the law.
And way more of them don't understand the basic physics of motion.
#53668
"...what is your obsession with defending this transvestite?"-RealTool

What is YOUR obsession with calling Jenner a "transvestite" when talking about his driving?
For all I know, he's a much better driver than you are.
He wasn't wearing a large floppy hat to obscure his vision.
His feet didn't get tangled in a long gown preventing him from reaching the brake pedal.

You're only demonstrating that you don't care about the law and only care about 'getting' Jenner, regardless of who is at fault.
That's as dismal a legal foundation for assigning guilt as johnforbes would come up with if he were on the case.
#53686
You're only demonstrating that you don't care about the law and only care about 'getting' Jenner...
Dude I'm the one saying he should have been treated like every other citizen who rams a car from behind and kills the occupant...processing into jail and held until bail was set pending possible charges. You're the one demonstrating you don't car about the law, only Jenner.
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By Malcolm
#53702
As to Jenner, he paraded about proclaiming himself the best athlete in the world while dodging the draft, thus consigning lesser athletes to protect him.....

not too shabby........

Professor Terguson: You remember that thing we had about 30 years ago called the Korean conflict? And how we failed to achieve victory? How come we didn't cross the 38th parallel and push those rice-eaters back to the Great Wall of China?

Professor Terguson: [rips a desk apart] Then take the fucking wall apart

[shouts]

Professor Terguson: brick by brick and nuke them back into the fucking stone age forever? Tell me why! How come? Say it! Say it!

Thornton Melon: [incensed] All right. I'll say it. 'Cause Truman was too much of a *pussy wimp* to let MacArthur go in there

[shouts]

Thornton Melon: and blow out those Commie bastards!

Professor Terguson: Good answer. Good answer. I like the way you think. I'm gonna be watching you.



OH! OH! they see through me! ;)
#54429
Jenner didn't cause the accident and likely isn't liable at all.
In my state, even if you rear end someone, if the car you rear end is in the accident first, the first offender is responsible for the entire pile up, regardless of how fast the next car is going.
Clown, as usual, you're wrong and I'm right.
A new video of Bruce Jenner’s accident that killed one of his neighbors proves that the crash was his fault, and could result in a vehicular manslaughter charge. An MTA bus caught the entire incident on camera, revealing that Jenner hit the Lexus ramming into the oncoming lane, he then rear ended the Prius which had been in front of the Lexus. The video shows the Prius and Lexus never made contact as Jenner claimed, they were both slowing for the stop light ahead.
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