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#51770
In a video posted Thursday on People's website, Winfrey praised Selma for depicting the thoughtfulness and strategy used by Martin Luther King. She feels this is lacking in recent protests focused on grand juries deciding not to indict the police officer who killed teen Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and the one who killed Eric Garner in a choke hold.

"I think it's wonderful to march and to protest, and it's wonderful to see all across the country, people doing it, but what I'm looking for is some kind of leadership to come out of this to say, 'This is what we want. This is what has to change, and these are the steps that we need to take to make these changes, and this is what we're willing to do to get it, we need a strategy. " Winfrey said.
#51822
Oprah makes it clear she supports the riots by blacks and calls upon more aggressive leadership by blacks to take what the evil white has. There's a reason Oprah spends more time in the White House Lincoln room than any of her mansions. It's not by chance Oprah's best friend for the last 20 years is Valerie June Bowman Jarrett .
#51825
Now you're just being stupid, RealTool.
I mean, more stupid than is usual even for you.

Oprah just produced the movie "Selma" about King and the non-violent civil rights movement.
Why would she do that if she supported violence?

And don't say "Well, Breitbart and Rush told me so."

You've got to stop letting yourself be used by your handlers.
They are not your friends.
#51826
"The strategy could be stay in school, get a job, stay off drugs, stay off welfare, quit depending on food stamps, etc."-johnforbes

johnny is always telling me I have simplistic kneejerk Leftist beliefs.
Then what does he propose as a solution to this huge problem?
Exactly what one would expect: the most simplistic of knee-jerk Rightist beliefs, of course.

johnny's profound lack of understanding of this problem is staggering.
And he fancies himself an educated man. :lol:
#51839
Oprah just produced the movie "Selma" about King and the non-violent civil rights movement.
Why would she do that if she supported violence?
Yes, Oprah's movies portrays blacks as being treated like animals by whites but all the blacks in the movie are gentle and confused by their abusive white masters. The movie does indeed portray blacks as non-violent and abused by whites. After watching the movie you want to go out and kick a white man's ass for what they did to those poor innocent peace loving blacks. Mission accomplished by the movie, Oprah said the recent protests/riots across our nation has given her hope and made her proud.

Or were supposed to think Oprah would make a movie of real violence by blacks?
#51841
"...Oprah said the recent...riots across our nation has given her hope and made her proud."-RealTool

Somehow I'm guessing you can't come up with a quote or video of her saying any such thing, you lying sack of shit.

Better check in with your handlers on this one. :lol:
#51842
Somehow I doubt that Oprah is interested in the "struggle". She didn't want any part of the film......the film makers offered her a role and she turned them down repeatedly...finally they offered her interest as a producer if she did the role ...only then did she accept. She's the richest black woman in the world....she has her own room at the White House...she has no need to get her hands dirty with street protests. She could care less about some poor niggers getting shot by the cops.
#51850
There's nothing simplistic about saying to young blacks (and whites):

Stay in school, get a job, stay off drugs, stay off welfare, quit depending on food stamps, etc.

Many become their own worst enemy by not getting the socially desired pieces of academic paper, and by using illegal drugs, and by using welfare as a crutch.

This is actually profoundly important advice to young people.

Here's more:

Stay in good physical condition and don't just save but also invest.
#52097
" After watching the movie you want to go out and kick a white man's ass for what they did to those poor innocent peace loving blacks. "-RealTool 4 days ago

I just realize that this movie opens today, yet somehow RealTool knew how the movie makes you feel four days before it even opens.
Either The Tool is psychic or he's a liar or he's regurgitating what his handlers told him to think.

So which is it, Tool, you dishonest fuck? :lol:
#52098
Or maybe The Tool is trying to convince us he paid to sit through an Oprah movie during its limited release.

Clearly "Selma" was on the top of his "must see" list at Christmastime. :lol:



I'm going with the "stupid liar" option for The Tool.
Or the "Handler's Marching Orders" for regurgitation.

Tough call there...
#52101
There's nothing simplistic about saying to young blacks (and whites):

Stay in school, get a job, stay off drugs, stay off welfare, quit depending on food stamps, etc.

Many become their own worst enemy by not getting the socially desired pieces of academic paper, and by using illegal drugs, and by using welfare as a crutch.

This is actually profoundly important advice to young people.
#52120
Previews of Selma has been out since November of last year.

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Now clown watch that and tell me it doesn't portray blacks as abused by whites, the movie wasn't meant to make blacks feel peaceful and like whites more after watching it, it was meant to stir racial hatred and keep that flame burning.
#52144
Now RealTool can tell how a movie leaves you feeling by watching a two and a half minute trailer. :lol:
You know nothing about this movie, Tool, because you haven't watched it.

And you actually expect us to believe he even bothered to watch that trailer before now?


How can you insist on holding a world view that depends on you lying to yourself and everyone else constantly?


For a little exercise of your amazing talent, Tool, watch the trailer for this movie and tell me how the movie leaves you feeling.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1321860/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_6

You may have a new career as a movie critic now that Siskel and Ebert are dead.
Think of all the money you could make if you didn't have to waste your time actually viewing the films.:lol:
#52145
There's nothing simplistic about saying to young blacks (and whites):

Stay in school, get a job, stay off drugs, stay off welfare, quit depending on food stamps, etc.

Many become their own worst enemy by not getting the socially desired pieces of academic paper, and by using illegal drugs, and by using welfare as a crutch.

This is actually profoundly important advice to young people.
#52157
I haven't got time to waste trying to educate the incorrigibly stupid.
Translation = I can't win this argument


You can bet, Oprah won't do a movie depicting current black families, half of it would have to be filmed in prisons and in drug houses, the other half in welfare lines or picking up their Obama phones and food stamps.
#52174
Tool, there is no argument to "win" or "lose" here.

johnforbes is a simpleton.
Even his trolling is simplistic; unimaginative copy-and-paste crap. He is incapable of reformulating an idea into alternate words.

It would take me several hours to explain to him why his snooty "weltbild" is simplistic because he's an idiot.
And what would come of all my effort? Nothing.
It would be time pissed away because johnforbes is holed up in lala land copy-and-pasting the same three jokes and same six boiler-plate platitudes over and over again.
He has never had an intelligent response to a thing I have posted and I don't expect him to start now.
He merely swishes about, regurgitates, and swoons like a drama queen.


johnforbes is stupid.
#52279
What I've suggested is pragmatic, but profound:

Stay in school, get a job, stay off drugs, stay off welfare, quit depending on food stamps, etc.

Many become their own worst enemy by not getting the socially desired pieces of academic paper, and by using illegal drugs, and by using welfare as a crutch.
#52455
MLK's children have been suing each other since his death. The makers of the movie "Selma", had to make up speeches, words that were never spoken by MLK, to use in the movies dialogue, because MLK's children refused to give pernission to use the actual wording.

It's obvious they care nothing about their old man's accomplishments.....they just want to loot their trust.....
#52459
First, I have no sympathy for King's bickering kids.

But as to the speeches, King Jr. retained copyright to his speeches, which means he didn't just want them used by anybody who felt like using them. So maybe you can cut the kids some slack on that one.
Why should everyone BUT the kids make money off them?
Maybe King wanted to provide for his children when he was killed, as he knew he would be.
There's nothing wrong in that.

Also, the "Selma" movie people didn't have to "make up speeches,"
They altered a word here or there, such as when King said "...give us the ballot." the movie says "...give us the vote."
By changing a few words to synonyms, they may have altered the poetry of King's speeches, but not the essential content, and they escaped copyright infringement, and thus the fees.
But I'm sure sillydodo always wants his M.L.King "pure" when he's consuming it. :lol:

And the children didn't "refuse" to let the "Selma" people use the speeches. You're misrepresenting the children with that characterization.
The "Selma" people are the ones who refused to pay the standard royalties for use.
Someone else has a movie in the works, and they paid the royalties for use, so have no fear, sillydipstick. You will still have the opportunity to revel in all the pure, unadulterated M.L.King your indignant little heart so desperately desires.
#52496
......With his opposition to the war, King became a moral force who challenged the political establishment and the administration of Lyndon Johnson. Shortly before his death, Hoover’s FBI would overhear King on a wiretap telling a close associate that “Bobby Kennedy is my main man” and disclosing his intention to endorse Kennedy in his fledging bid to win the White House in 1968. One can imagine the speed with which J. Edgar Hoover would have made President Johnson aware of King’s comments. Three weeks later King would be dead. Nine weeks later Robert Kennedy would be dead....

http://mlk-kpp01.stanford.edu/index.php ... lma_march/
http://www.macleans.ca/culture/movies/s ... y-brigade/
#52506
As snowflakes swirl through the cold morning air and fall into the lake, we must all take a sip of hot coffee and gaze beyond partisan discord.

As Faulkner recognized, some things in life are eternally true.

Clownsucker is always called a "leftist dope" for two reasons.

Both entirely valid.

First, Clownsicker is a leftist.

Secondly, Clownhacker is a dope.

For these reasons, it follows -- much as night follows dusk -- that Clownslacker is a leftist dope.
#52534
As snowflakes swirl through the cold morning air and fall into the lake, we must all take a sip of hot coffee and gaze beyond partisan discord.

As Faulkner recognized, some things in life are eternally true.

Clownsucker is always called a "leftist dope" for two reasons.

Both entirely valid.

First, Clownsicker is a leftist.

Secondly, Clownhacker is a dope.

For these reasons, it follows -- much as night follows dusk -- that Clownslacker is a leftist dope.
#52563
As snowflakes swirl through the cold morning air and fall into the lake, we must all take a sip of hot coffee and gaze beyond partisan discord.

As Faulkner recognized, some things in life are eternally true.

Clownsucker is always called a "leftist dope" for two reasons.

Both entirely valid.

First, Clownsicker is a leftist.

Secondly, Clownhacker is a dope.

For these reasons, it follows -- much as night follows dusk -- that Clownslacker is a leftist dope.
#52578
As snowflakes swirl through the cold morning air and fall into the lake, we must all take a sip of hot coffee and gaze beyond partisan discord.

As Faulkner recognized, some things in life are eternally true.

Clownsucker is always called a "leftist dope" for two reasons.

Both entirely valid.

First, Clownsicker is a leftist.

Secondly, Clownhacker is a dope.

For these reasons, it follows -- much as night follows dusk -- that Clownslacker is a leftist dope.
#52607
As snowflakes swirl through the cold morning air and fall into the lake, we must all take a sip of hot coffee and gaze beyond partisan discord.

As Faulkner recognized, some things in life are eternally true.

Clownsucker is always called a "leftist dope" for two reasons.

Both entirely valid.

First, Clownsicker is a leftist.

Secondly, Clownhacker is a dope.

For these reasons, it follows -- much as night follows dusk -- that Clownslacker is a leftist dope.
#52716
I cannot recall who first mentioned this on the thread, but these remarks below are very true:


Clownsucker is always called a "leftist dope" for two reasons.

Both entirely valid.

First, Clownsicker is a leftist.

Secondly, Clownhacker is a dope.

For these reasons, it follows -- much as night follows dusk -- that Clownslacker is a leftist dope.
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