[tvd]

They apparently put fries on her ticket, when she only ordered ice cream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16hn3mT ... r_embedded

[Clownkicker]

I can't watch the video so I don't know what it's about. (I don't "sign in" and give my email to anything besides this site.)

I'm guessing it shows someone losing it over what appears to be 'nothing'.
Sometimes it's just a subjective perception. (misperception?)

One time my wife and I were on a ferry (she was driving) and when we were being unloaded, my wife suddenly went off on the (white) deck hand who was directing traffic around a driverless car on the car deck. This really surprised me because this sort of thing virtually never happens without justification with her. I hadn't noticed the guy treating her any differently than he treated everyone else, but she felt he had disrespected her.

Since this sort of thing is almost never an issue with her, I have to accept that just maybe the guy had been insulting in some way with an intentionally brusk gesture or facial expression that I missed, but I suspect that it was mostly just a misperception. I suspect the deck hand probably gets upset at the person absent from their car and his frustration with that driver may appear to be frustration with the drivers who are where they should be. Who knows?

Or maybe the person in the video had already been disrespected a couple times that day and the fries were just the last straw for them. The fries might have little to do with it.
Or maybe the person is mentally ill but isn't getting the care they need?

There could be any number of reasons the event in your video took place.
It's hard to judge if you aren't there, and even if you are there, you don't know what you might have missed.
But what I do know is that there are many cases of intentional rudeness or passive aggressive insults that are frequently leveled at blacks for reasons I fail to see, which leaves the feeling that they are simply racially motivated.

That said, I also witness behavior by blacks that I consider simply unacceptable and without justification.
Another time we were in a movie theater and a black couple in the row behind us were talking loudly all the way through the movie. (They seemed unable to understand that it wasn't a documentary film and that the behavior of the whites in the movie wasn't actually happening.) I finally turned around and (politely) asked them to stop talking. They were rude in return and continued talking the rest of the movie. When we got to the lobby after the show I approached them and told them how rude their behavior was to everyone else in the theater. They went off on me, ranting, calling me a "white devil" and both of them looked almost psychotic to me. I don't know if they were mentally ill or Nation of Islam or what their problem was. But I've seen whites act just as badly and just as crazy.

Maybe you could describe for me what you see in the video.

[RealJustme]

Clown you admitted you couldn't watch the video...you do realize it was racist of you to jump to the conclusion it was a black who got angry, don't you? Or are you just using logic that it more likely to be a black person who blows up?

[sillydaddy]

I can condense Clown's explanation into one sentence. Niggers being niggers.....bitch! LOL

[Clownkicker]

RealTool, you have to realize I'm not as stupid as you are.

If someone specifically targets me with a question, and the only reason that specific someone would target the question at me is because of what he knows about me, then I am able to draw some conclusions from the knowledge I have.

It's called inductive reasoning.
You are incapable of inductive reasoning (as are most people) and believe your knee-jerk responses are reasonable, so it is no wonder you apply your lack of moral integrity to me when I can do something that mystifies you.

[johnforbes]

Clownhicker's email address is Leftist_Dope@pothead.com.

[Clownkicker]

Tool, here's perhaps a better way to explain it in terms more familiar to a partisan, racist scumbag such as yourself:

tvd posted a video link of someone disturbingly angry.
We know right away the guy is not white?

"How?" you ask.
Because you partisan hacks never post anything that shows whites in a bad light unless the guy is Joe Biden, Al Gore, or Harry Reid. I have no unique knowledge of those guys, so tvd wouldn't have specifically asked me about them.
The only other videos of angry white guys you clowns would post would be of guys who had a good reason to be angry. Again, tvd wouldn't ask me the question in that case because he would understand why the guy was angry already.
That means the person in the video is a member of a minority.

Now, the only minorities you clowns get your panties in a bunch over are blacks, Arabs, and Hispanics.
If the person in the video were Hispanic, tvd would have asked YOU the question instead of asking me.
These days nobody is surprised to see an angry Arab in a video because quite a few of them are violent religious nut cases. So tvd wouldn't have asked the question at all if the guy were Arab.
Therefore the person in the video must be black.

This is what is known as deductive reasoning, since inductive reasoning is an alien concept to you.



Oh yeah.....and johnforbes is stupid.

[RealJustme]

So Clown, why did you of all people jump to the conclusion the bad person was black? Now don't try and blame your prejudice on other people...it's because of life experiences isn't it?

[Clownkicker]

^^^^I understand Tool doesn't understand "inductive" but this moron doesn't even understand the word "deductive". :lol:

First, I didn't conclude that ANYONE was "bad" you imbecile. You did.
I wait for evidence.
Reason doesn't allow one to "jump" to any conclusion.
One "arrives" at a conclusion step by step.
And if you don't know what tvd knows about me which influenced him to ask his question of me specifically, then I have to thank him for keeping our little discussion to himself, as he said he would.
Either that, or you're really, really stupid.


Oh...and johnforbes is really, really stupid, too.

[elklindo69]

They apparently put fries on her ticket, when she only ordered ice cream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16hn3mT ... r_embedded

So what's your point other than an attempt to be a flaming fucktard?

:lol:

[RealJustme]

Clown- Reason doesn't allow one to "jump" to any conclusion.

Hey Clown is someone else using your nick? :shock:

Clown- I can't watch the video so I don't know what it's about. (I don't "sign in" and give my email to anything besides this site.)

I'm guessing it shows someone losing it over what appears to be 'nothing'.
Sometimes it's just a subjective perception. (misperception?)

One time my wife and I were on a ferry (she was driving) and when we were being unloaded, my wife suddenly went off on the (white) deck hand who was directing traffic around a driverless car on the car deck. This really surprised me because this sort of thing virtually never happens without justification with her. I hadn't noticed the guy treating her any differently than he treated everyone else, but she felt he had disrespected her.

Since this sort of thing is almost never an issue with her, I have to accept that just maybe the guy had been insulting in some way with an intentionally brusk gesture or facial expression that I missed, but I suspect that it was mostly just a misperception. I suspect the deck hand probably gets upset at the person absent from their car and his frustration with that driver may appear to be frustration with the drivers who are where they should be. Who knows?

Or maybe the person in the video had already been disrespected a couple times that day and the fries were just the last straw for them. The fries might have little to do with it.
Or maybe the person is mentally ill but isn't getting the care they need?

There could be any number of reasons the event in your video took place.
It's hard to judge if you aren't there, and even if you are there, you don't know what you might have missed.
But what I do know is that there are many cases of intentional rudeness or passive aggressive insults that are frequently leveled at blacks for reasons I fail to see, which leaves the feeling that they are simply racially motivated.

That said, I also witness behavior by blacks that I consider simply unacceptable and without justification.
Another time we were in a movie theater and a black couple in the row behind us were talking loudly all the way through the movie. (They seemed unable to understand that it wasn't a documentary film and that the behavior of the whites in the movie wasn't actually happening.) I finally turned around and (politely) asked them to stop talking. They were rude in return and continued talking the rest of the movie. When we got to the lobby after the show I approached them and told them how rude their behavior was to everyone else in the theater. They went off on me, ranting, calling me a "white devil" and both of them looked almost psychotic to me. I don't know if they were mentally ill or Nation of Islam or what their problem was. But I've seen whites act just as badly and just as crazy.

Maybe you could describe for me what you see in the video.
Clownkicker Posts: 1613Joined: Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:55 am

:roll:

[Clownkicker]

So, Tool, are you going to tell me what conclusion was 'jumped' to for which you don't seem capable of grasping the reasoning?

Any simpleton can understand things once they have been spelled out and spoon-fed to them.

I've already explained to you twice how I reasoned out that tvd was posting about a black person, so it must be something else you don't understand.

[elklindo69]

TVD will be posting "redneck fight club gone wild" videos in 3...2...1...

:roll:

[sillydaddy]

Never piss off the people that handle your food.

[tvd]

Quite the interesting , and I admit, logically reasoned responses here.
All except Elk that is, who thinks only at the basest of levels.

We conservatives (I will speak for all of us on this board) are constantly being bombarded with the "racist" accusation.
No matter if I disagree with Obama on his political position, to siding with the cop in Ferguson, to supporting the concealed carry laws here in FL, to dropping the "nigger" bomb.
It is all funneled back to the fundamental "racist" accusation. "He's judging the person on the color of his skin."

Well, no. It is not the color of the skin, it is the culture difference. The person in the video is displaying a behavior, and "culture", that I find personally repulsive. This culture is common, in fact the norm, among the black population in the US.
As silly said...."niggers being niggers".

So, I post this to make a point that this behavior is what we conservatives rail against.
Take me to Liberia, to a college campus, for example, and I will find educated blacks that would never act as the person in the youtube video acts. They will not have the 'thug" mentality, their music will not be riddled wth pornographic and violent lyrics, they will most likely be polite, civilized blacks, not at all like the video subject.

So, my point....change that culture, as displayed in the video, within the black population here in USA, and MAYBE, just MAYBE, the white population will not judge by stereotype.
Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.....there is inherent truth in them.

Don't blame the problem on me as a racist. Blame the problem on the behavior that causes my disdain.
See, Elk, it is just not me being a racist fucktard and posting up a black woman going postal....it is deeper than that, and I urge you to think a bit deeper. You only think on the surface.

It is that culture than I cannot stand, not the skin color.

But oh well, this is all a pipe dream, as racism is a natural inherent human trait anyway.
Just look to N. Korea and the words thrown at Obama in the past week. Asians hate blacks....blacks hate asians...true dat!!!!

Oh, and Clown, I picked you out...singled you out....because if there is any ONE thing you are consistent on, it is defending anything that is "anti-conservative". You, actually did so in your first post on this thread. Very eloquently, too.
You will ALWAYS take the opposite position from the conservative standpoint, defending it, even if it is indefensible.

[johnforbes]

We all wish we could get Clowntoker to take a firm position on riding a ferry.

Alas, he goes back and forth on it.

[elklindo69]

Quite the interesting , and I admit, logically reasoned responses here.
All except Elk that is, who thinks only at the basest of levels.

Well, no. It is not the color of the skin, it is the culture difference. The person in the video is displaying a behavior, and "culture", that I find personally repulsive. This culture is common, in fact the norm, among the black population in the US.
As silly said...."niggers being niggers".

So, I post this to make a point that this behavior is what we conservatives rail against.

So, my point....change that culture, as displayed in the video, within the black population here in USA, and MAYBE, just MAYBE, the white population will not judge by stereotype.
Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.....there is inherent truth in them.

From my understanding, true conservatism abhors stereotypical characterization. It's an ideology based upon meritocracy, is it not? TRUE conservatives abhor stereotypical characterizations because it's a trait of lazy thinking and you are not judging based upon the merits. And now you are going to tell me that you are going to prejudge a whole swath of the population based upon what you have seen on youtube.com? Or the material on Fox News. Do you know why it's called Hoax News or Faux News? Or is what I have just stated inaccurate or even worst, stereotypical. WOOPS!!!

Ask yourself this question, "how many black friends do I have?" According to polling, the answer is pretty much none.



Therefore it's understandable why you and many other 'like minded' whites would resort to stereotypical profiling as a means to forge an opinion. I went on youtube.com and found within seconds a video of a woman smashing in the window at a McDonalds drive through at 10:30 in the morning because she couldn't get her fix of McNuggets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g-xB_n1RHw

Is she white trash, yes, but after watching that video or the thousands others which look upon whites in an unfavorable manner, is it fair and objective to summarily dismiss the white culture and claim that it is the norm for the white population in the United States? Well it shows a violent white person, therefore all white people are violent...correct!!!

[johnforbes]

Washington Post, resting on its Watergate laurels, would never look at the 3 bigger scandals Obama has become enmeshed in.

[RealJustme]

So Elk, your stats show blacks don't like Asians, why is that?

[elklindo69]

So Elk, your stats show blacks don't like Asians, why is that?

Blacks have many more white friends, than do whites who have many less black friends.

Why is that???

That's the question...........................

[RealJustme]

Blacks have many more white friends, than do whites who have many less black friends.

Why is that???

Elk are you just pretending to be stupid? Did you know that whites living in Mexico have more Hispanic friends than white friends? Engage your brain and think about that and you'll be able to answer you're own question.

[elklindo69]

Blacks have many more white friends, than do whites who have many less black friends.

Why is that???

Elk are you just pretending to be stupid? Did you know that whites living in Mexico have more Hispanic friends than white friends? Engage your brain and think about that and you'll be able to answer you're own question.

Approximately 15% of the population is black, but only 1% of white people's friends are black.

Duh...

:lol:

[elklindo69]

Blacks have many more white friends, than do whites who have many less black friends.

Why is that???

Elk are you just pretending to be stupid? Did you know that whites living in Mexico have more Hispanic friends than white friends? Engage your brain and think about that and you'll be able to answer you're own question.

Approximately 15% of the population is black, but only 1% of white people's friends are black.

Duh...

:lol:

[RealJustme]

Approximately 15% of the population is black, but only 1% of white people's friends are black.

Duh...

Duh is correct, using your own fabricated numbers Elk, 70% of the population is white but only 6% of black's friends are white? Give it up dude, you're way over your head.

[tvd]

Elk's thinking is so far gone.....there are not enough keys on the keyboard to properly respond to this crap.

This stands out: His posted graphic....uses wording that makes me think it is all speculative...like there are no real numbers behind the graph.
"Assuming the average white......///.....their friend networks would look like."
Assuming....and would look like.

This graphic is not real.

"From my understanding, true conservatism abhors stereotypical characterization." Who's ass did you pull this out of?
Your understanding? Where do you get any of this from?

Re-direction of the subject matter is a very weak argument tactic. Yes, I know there are whites that act the same way. BUT I DON'T LIKE THEM EITHER!!!!

It is the culture that is being displayed that I find repulsive. Can you even slightly comprehend that?

Shit....there is just too much here to address. Not enough time in the day...

Oh, and I have quite a few black friends, friends that I go to eat lunch with, go to their weddings, seek them out to see what is happening in their lives, shoot pool with.....true friends. Just in case you wondered.

[Clownkicker]

tvd, you take that feeling and multiply by ten and you begin to understand how I feel every time the rest of you guys post here.

johnforbes can post three lines of droning crap and it would take three or four paragraphs to explain why he doesn't know what he's talking about.
I don't begin to have the time.

And RealTool's endless partisan propaganda----why doesn't it bother you the same way elklindo's posts bother you?
The Tool's crap is carefully constructed by professional disinformation specialists before they hand it to him. I takes even longer to debunk his crap.

I can't even find the time to explain to you, and I think you come by your beliefs pretty honestly, no matter how misguided.

[johnforbes]

Clownlicker lacks the education and experience to counter any position contrary to his lazy, kneejerk leftist opinions.

Clowntoker, like Elkindope, are locked into sophomoric opinions cemented in the rhetoric of the Left.

[Clownkicker]

As we well know, johnforbes has taken a rigid position on riding elevators.

When it comes to shafts, johnforbes only goes down on them.

[johnforbes]

Clownlicker, please confine your gay remarks to your private email with Grog.

The rest of us are not interested in your deviant fantasy life.

[Clownkicker]

Gay remarks? I was talking about elevators just like you were talking about ferries.

Why do you turn everything into ... ohhhh, now I see...
You thought I was talking about.....
Honestly, johnny, you have GOT to stop hanging out at those interstate truck stops on the week ends.
It becomes a problem when it starts to color your everyday intercourse.

[johnforbes]

Clownlicker is indeed a fairy.

In point of fact, Clownhacker is like the retarded son we never had.

How well we all remember the day Clowntoker was left on the doorstep of the forum.