[johnforbes]

This recently-posted video (hat tip Daily Signal) shows Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber matter-of-factly stating that an honestly and simply described Obamacare would not have passed Congress.

Preying on “the stupidity of the American voter” was necessary to get the bill passed.

Of course, Gruber deems that to be a good thing.

[johnforbes]

Bump.

Or, as the roadrunner said, beep.

[elklindo69]

OH Yeah...

He's the same guy who came up with Romney care.

Conservatives have swept that one under the rug!!!

LMAO

:lol:

[johnforbes]

So it is funny for Gruber to admit that, as one of the big architects of Obamacare, he knew they had to lie to get it passed?

And that's acceptable to a little dope like Elkin?

[RealJustme]

This is far worse than Watergate, the President and his cronies set out to deceive the American public to get what they wanted, they tried covering it up and have been busted, now they brag of the deception, heads should fly.

[johnforbes]

"Just a few days before Americans get the pleasure of wading through the upgraded though still not completely debugged Healthcare.gov Website, another bombshell that paints a picture of public deception in pushing through the president’s unpopular health law has been dropped by ObamaCare’s chief architect. Forbes: “You’ve got to hand it to MIT economist Jonathan Gruber. The guy dubbed the ‘Obamacare architect’ is a viral YouTube sensation. A few months back, he was caught on tape admitting that Obamacare doesn’t provide subsidies for federally-run insurance exchanges; it’s now the topic of a new case before the Supreme Court. [Monday] a new video surfaced in which Gruber said that ‘the stupidity of the American voter’ made it important for him and Democrats to hide Obamacare’s true costs from the public. ‘That was really, really critical for the thing to pass,’ said Gruber. ‘But I’d rather have this law than not.’ In other words, the ends—imposing Obamacare upon the public—justified the means.

[elklindo69]

So it is funny for Gruber to admit that, as one of the big architects of Obamacare, he knew they had to lie to get it passed?

And that's acceptable to a little dope like Elkin?

So Romney had to lie to get his socialistic health care plan passed in Mass?

And that's acceptable to a little dope like Johnnie Boy, who actually voted for Romney...

Commie Bastard!!!!

:lol:

[johnforbes]

This is another enormous scandal which media outlets must run from.

Gruber admitted that, as one of the big architects of Obamacare, he knew they had to lie to get it passed.

He called the voters "stupid."

[elklindo69]

So Romney had to lie to get his socialistic health care plan passed in Mass?

And that's acceptable to a little dope like Johnnie Boy, who actually voted for Romney...

Commie Bastard!!!!

:lol:

[johnforbes]

Romney said solutions should be state-specific, and they should.

But this is another enormous scandal which media outlets must run from.

Gruber admitted that, as one of the big architects of Obamacare, he knew they had to lie to get it passed.

He called the voters "stupid."

[Malcolm]

Now, goddamnit, this about the fourth time I've posted this...


Leo Strauss' Philosophy of Deception
Many neoconservatives like Paul Wolfowitz are disciples of a philosopher who believed that the elite should use deception, religious fervor and perpetual war to control the ignorant masses.

[tvd]

Not to mention another philosophical viewpoint expressed by "one of them thar Caesars"....

I paraphrase: Give them bread to fill their stomachs, and give them a circus to entertain, and they will not be any problem.
Very rough paraphrase...I don't have time to look it up.

That's what we have now. Food stamps, Obamaphones, et. al., and Dancing with the Stars, Facebook, et.al.

"Bread and circuses. Back in the Roman Empire, those were the keys to diverting the public’s attention from political greed and corruption — and, particularly, from the massive gap between the rich and the poor."

[johnforbes]

Panem et circenses...

[elklindo69]

Romney said solutions should be state-specific, and they should.

But this is another enormous scandal which media outlets must run from.

Gruber admitted that, as one of the big architects of Obamacare, he knew they had to lie to get it passed.

He called the voters "stupid."

No difference between implementation on the state or federal level.

Obamacare was derived from Romneycare, same shit different faces.

:lol:

[elklindo69]

Not to mention another philosophical viewpoint expressed by "one of them thar Caesars"....

I paraphrase: Give them bread to fill their stomachs, and give them a circus to entertain, and they will not be any problem.
Very rough paraphrase...I don't have time to look it up.

That's what we have now. Food stamps, Obamaphones, et. al., and Dancing with the Stars, Facebook, et.al.

"Bread and circuses. Back in the Roman Empire, those were the keys to diverting the public’s attention from political greed and corruption — and, particularly, from the massive gap between the rich and the poor."

Bread and Circuses...great Star Trek episode!

Add coal to the equation, McConnell want you to believe that coal burning doesn't pollute the atmosphere. I suppose the great firewall of Kentucky blocks images of Beijing...

[johnforbes]

This is another enormous scandal which media outlets must run from.

Gruber admitted that, as one of the big architects of Obamacare, he knew they had to lie to get it passed.

He called the voters "stupid."