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By johnforbes
#47956
September 17, 2014










WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. — The idea of the Ebola virus becoming airborne is not far-fetched and its ability to enter cells that line the trachea and lungs has been shown under controlled laboratory conditions, a Purdue University virus expert says.

David Sanders, an associate professor of biological sciences who has studied the Zaire strain of Ebola virus that is responsible for the current outbreak in West Africa, says the possibility of the virus becoming airborne should not be discounted.

"It is not unprecedented for a virus to change its mode of transmission," he says. "Ebola does share some of the characteristics of airborne viruses like influenza, and we should not disregard the possibility of it evolving into something that could be transmitted in this way."

A research team led by Sanders and collaborators from the University of Iowa established that the Zaire strain of Ebola virus could enter the epithelial cells that line the human airway in a paper published in the Journal of Virology in 2003. The experiment used a pseudotyped virus, which was built with the Ebola virus envelope proteins, or outer shell. The inside of the virus was that of a retrovirus to prevent replication of the Ebola virus and to more easily separate the functions of the outer and inner portions of the virus, he said.

"We were studying at the cellular level how the virus enters cells and showed it could enter human airway epithelial cells," Sanders says. "However, there are many factors beyond its ability to enter these cells that influence how a virus is transmitted. To be airborne it must be present on tiny droplets from a cough or sneeze and must be able to live outside of the body for a certain length of time. This is not how the virus is currently known to spread, but it is evidence that it has some of the necessary components for respiratory transmission."

Sanders, who also has expertise in the transmission of viruses from animal to animal and animals to humans, also points to the influenza virus as an example of how a virus can switch from one mode of transmission to another. In birds, its natural host, influenza virus infects the intestinal tract and is transmitted by feces. In mammals, such as humans, it has respiratory route of transmission. Only a small number of mutations are required to alter the host and mode of transmission, he says.

The death toll from the current Ebola outbreak continues to rise. More than 2,200 deaths have been attributed to the virus and there are 4,269 probable, confirmed and suspected cases in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, according to the World Health Organization.
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By RealJustme
#47963
The CDC had the airplane the latest Ebola victim was on cleaned twice by a hazmat team and the seats she was on and near removed before declaring it safe for reuse...and she wasn't even showing signs of Ebola when she flew on it but yet Obama says you can sit next to a person with Ebola and not be concerned about catching it.

So which is it?
By Clownkicker
#47966
It's quite simple, RealTool.

Most politicians don't know squat about biology and medicine.
They will tell dimwits like you whatever it takes to keep business profitable and to get you to keep your clothes on and not shoot people.

Infectious disease organizations are, for the most part, people of science, but their paychecks are controlled by politicians and they are used by politicians. They will only tell you part of what they know because reality sounds really, really bad on TV. They will tell dimwits like you whatever it takes to keep business profitable and get you to keep your clothes on and not shoot people.

"So which is it?"-RealTool
As always, you're asking the wrong questions because you are totally partisan and totally ignorant of science and biology.
First you need to understand that nobody actually understands the Ebola viruses yet. WHATEVER anyone tells you, it is only part of the story. If they tell you Ebola isn't airborne, then it isn't.......until it is. If they tell you it can't be contracted by sitting in an airline seat, then it can't.......until it can. If the airline were smart it would strip and replace the entire interior of the plane, not because it needs it, but because they don't know if it needs it. However, it's a corporation, not a person, and it really doesn't care whether you die if keeping you alive would cost more.

Ebola still has a few surprises up its tiny little sleeves. It is changing all the time. Ebola Zaire is one of the more benign versions. People walk away alive half the time. This is not the case with some others where mortality can reach 90%.

The point is, stop with the partisan hate and posturing. It isn't productive or valuable. This is a medical problem. Politicians WILL fuck it up, so be ready for the worst no matter what they tell you. They will be slow to react and always be late with their responses. They don't want business to lose money because clowns like you will blame them for their "anti-capitalist hate for liberty and business" even if they just saved your life by shutting down airlines and hotels and tourism and food and energy production. And if they tell you they need to raise taxes to pay for control measures, tools like you will vote them out next election.
If Romney were President he would be telling you the same 'lies'. You will deny this because you only want to be able to blame a Democrat with your dying breath. That way you can smugly die self-righteously happy knowing you were right about them.

Keep your clothes on and don't run around screaming. Keep your firearms locked up and stop picking your nose, for God's sake. Cover your mouth when you sneeze, don't wipe your hands on your pants or door knobs, don't cough onto the telephone receiver, don't spit on the sidewalk, make sure your dishwasher water reaches 160 degrees, don't leave the mayonnaise out on the counter, don't drink out of the milk carton and put it back in the refrigerator, don't double dip your chips at parties, wash your hands after you take a crap instead of just walking out the door sniffing your fingers. Stay away from mass sporting events, head-banging concerts, WWF wrestling shows, and monster truck rallies. And by all means, stay out of hospitals. There are really nasty bugs and sick people there.

I realize doing these things will drastically change your lifestyle, but it's well worth the trouble, if not for you, then for the health of your family and friends.
By johnforbes
#47967
Another university today was saying that Ebola could be transmitted by air.

Just a few weeks ago, Obama was confidently proclaiming that that was not the case.
By Clownkicker
#47978
johnforbes is still too stupid to understand that Obama is not a credible source of medical information.

johnforbes always takes medical advice from politicians, just like he takes climate change advice from Al Gore.

If you're going to be childish, go ask your mother what the old saying "Take it with a grain of salt" means, dimwit.
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By RealJustme
#47985
johnforbes is still too stupid to understand that Obama is not a credible source of medical information.
We already know Obama isn't credible, but you would think the President of the United States would have access to someone in the medical field who could fill him in on Ebola with the facts. So far it appears Susan Rice is his medical source.
By elklindo69
#47987
RealJustme wrote:
johnforbes is still too stupid to understand that Obama is not a credible source of medical information.
We already know Obama isn't credible, but you would think the President of the United States would have access to someone in the medical field who could fill him in on Ebola with the facts. So far it appears Susan Rice is his medical source.
Maybe John Boehner knows better...LMAO

CDC published info about Ebola, turn off Faux News and educate yourself for once...LMAO

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/ ... ca/qa.html
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By RealJustme
#47993
Africa knows more about fighting Ebola than Obama or the CDC, here's proof!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ ... 6-14-24-38" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Obama is allowing in risks that not even Africa will accept. Remember it was one of those Africans that Obama allowed in that started our Ebola outbreak and thousands of high risk Africans have come in since the first one arrived.

ISIS has to be sitting back laughing "those are some dumb fucks"
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