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#47331
When a far leftist like Panetta attacks Obama for helping terrorists Democrats are in trouble.

Panetta unloads on White House for pulling US forces out of Iraq.Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is lashing out at President Obama’s inner circle for failing to secure a 2011 deal to leave U.S. troops in Iraq, effectively accusing the White House of sabotaging the talks – in turn, opening the door for the region to become a haven for the Islamic State.

Panetta, who served as CIA director and then Defense secretary during those negotiations, aired his complaints in his forthcoming memoir, “Worthy Fights.” Excerpts on the Baghdad talks were published by Time.


In them, Panetta explained that Iraqi leaders privately wanted some U.S. forces to stay behind after the formal 2011 withdrawal, though they would not say so publicly. The former secretary, though, said the U.S. had “leverage” to strike a deal, and the Defense and State departments tried to do exactly that.

“But,” he wrote, “the President’s team at the White House pushed back, and the differences occasionally became heated. … and those on our side viewed the White House as so eager to rid itself of Iraq that it was willing to withdraw rather than lock in arrangements that would preserve our influence and interests.”
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#47335
Surprising candor, but this was sadly an easy one to call.

When the US left SE Asia, the area had no stabilizing force. Power abhors a vacuum.

Two million were slaughtered in the wake of the chaos in SE Asia, and that took place on a much smaller scale in Iraq.

Obama and his minions at the State Dept must have been very ignorant of history to allow that to occur.
#47363
Conservatives are blaming Obama for the rise of ISIS, because he failed to strong arm the Iraqi government into leaving a garrison of troops in a nation that didn't want US soldiers to begin with in the first place.

Further more, conservatives are now claiming that the Obama administration didn't work hard enough to undermine the will of the Iraqi government.

Yes, conservative logic at its finest....

:roll:
#47379
Conservatives are blaming Obama for the rise of ISIS, because he failed to strong arm the Iraqi government into leaving a garrison of troops in a nation that didn't want US soldiers to begin with in the first place.
State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki was left speechless when she was confronted with a tape of Obama bragging about how he took all the US troops from Iraq. Megyn Kelly played this tape from the October 22, 2012 presidential debate.


Mitt Romney: In regards to Iraq, you and I agreed, I believe that there should have been a status of forces agreement… Oh, you didn’t want a status of forces agreement?

Barack Obama: No I didn't, what I would not have done was left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help us in the Middle East.
#47381
"Yep, you got that one right, Obama is done."-RealTool

We can count on RealTool to break the news in 2016 that Obama is toast; that he's finally getting kicked out of the job of President.
And our response will be, "Even a mentally stopped clock like RealTool is right once every eight years."


"By the way, is it my imagination or does it seem that everywhere blacks are, misery follows?"

Everywhere PEOPLE are, misery follows, you clueless bastard.
For example, here we have you, Insipid, and johnforbes, which makes this place pretty miserable as a political discussion forum.
#47385
So then why Loser Lucky, if black males are only 3% of the population, why do thy commit the vast majority of violent crime? Oh yeah, slavery. Got it. Where do we send our reparations checks? Say, you better give up your doper, drug fiend ways, or else you are going to have one of those black male gang bangers balls deep in your virgin, white bread punk bitch ass.
Word up, yo? (As the bruthus be sayin')
#47387
Insipid overlooks the fact that the majority of pedophiles in the U.S. are white guys just like him.
And the majority of rapes in the U.S. are committed by white guys just like him.
Not to mention guys like Romney who take over a viable company, steal the retirement pension of the workers and then put all of them out of a job when they sell off the assets of the company and shut it down.
Then Insipid complains that those lazy welfare queens should get a job and save for their retirements.
This causes no end of misery to middle class families, including divorce, bankruptcies due to the loss of health insurance, and moving families to new areas where they have no roots.
And on top of it all, white Presidents have killed millions of people with the wars they instigated over nothing.

Insipid and his ilk pretend whites don't cause just as much misery because they either can't see it, as in the case of life-ruining psychological scars, or because they simply accept it, as in the case of wars and white collar crimes.
Each group commits crimes as their means allow. Blacks have less means so they commit cruder crimes.
Insipid simply shrugs off white collar crimes, largely committed by whites with means, that destroy societies.
He thinks it's fine to throw the book at blacks for crack use while letting white cocaine users off with probation.

Insipid gets upset at a few hundred murders but doesn't mind Goldman Sacks and Romney's buddies 'legally' stealing billions from us all with impunity and destroying millions of lives, putting people out of their homes and onto welfare to survive.
#47389
Insipid gets upset at a few hundred murders but doesn't mind Goldman Sacks and Romney's buddies 'legally' stealing billions from us all with impunity and destroying millions of lives, putting people out of their homes and onto welfare to survive.
Wonder why blacks can commit complicated crimes?
#47398
Mitt Romney: In regards to Iraq, you and I agreed, I believe that there should have been a status of forces agreement… Oh, you didn’t want a status of forces agreement?

Barack Obama: No I didn't, what I would not have done was left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help us in the Middle East.
#47436
The Pentagon said they need additional funding to continue the operations in Iraq, in two weeks it's cost over a billion dollars to take out 73 vehicles and bomb three buildings, so far an estimated 103 terrorist killed, 35,000 more to go, ooops an estimated 5,000 more joined ISIS in those two weeks, 39,897 more to go.

No one, absolutely no one believes ISIS will be stopped by fighting them from above and Biden just called our allies in the area our enemy so we can't count on them to do anything other than defend their borders. Obama proudly announced up to 5,000 local fighters are being trained and will be ready to fight ISIS within 8 months, 400,000 Iraq soldiers trained by the US for years and outfitted with the best weapons can't stop ISIS but Obama pretends the 5,000 being trained is the solution. Obama is doing nothing but kicking the can down the road while liberals applaud his strategic genius and the fact he knows more about combat than all of our generals.

Obama must go!

Carlos
#47440
RealJustme wrote:The Pentagon said they need additional funding to continue the operations in Iraq, in two weeks it's cost over a billion dollars to take out 73 vehicles and bomb three buildings, so far an estimated 103 terrorist killed, 35,000 more to go, ooops an estimated 5,000 more joined ISIS in those two weeks, 39,897 more to go.

No one, absolutely no one believes ISIS will be stopped by fighting them from above

Carlos
OK let's stop bombing then.

I'm for that!
#47444
I agree Elk, Obama has got us into a no win situation by not listening to his military leaders but instead to political hacks. Without troops on the ground, spending 500K a pop to take out Toyota trucks and empty buildings won't be effective. ISIS is winning Obama's war. Obama's first mistakes was telling ISIS what our military won't do, then telling what we would be doing, like giving them two weeks warning we would be bombing their HQ's in Syria, leaving it empty when we finally did drop bombs for a photo op of how serious Obama is. We can not afford to keep our military aircraft flying missions looking for Toyotas with an ISIS flag.

Obama should be prosecuted for manslaughter, his actions have been intentional, he was told this would happened.
#47460
RealJustme wrote:
Insipid gets upset at a few hundred murders but doesn't mind Goldman Sacks and Romney's buddies 'legally' stealing billions from us all with impunity and destroying millions of lives, putting people out of their homes and onto welfare to survive.
Wonder why blacks can commit complicated crimes?
Can Justme compose an intelligent post?

LMAO
#47466
RealJustme wrote:
Can Justme compose an intelligent post?
Elk, when people go over your head you're not suppose to point it out, just smile and nod.
Justme...when you step into a pile of steaming dog shit. You're supposed to wait until people walk away until you lift your shoe.

Justremember...think then type!

:lol:
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