[Intrepid]

From the Daily Caller: (go ahead Useful Idiots, attack the source since you cannot refute the facts)

It’s been a busy year for climate scientists, who have been trying to explain why there has been no global warming for nearly two decades.

The Daily Caller News Foundation reported in February there were eight mainstream explanations for the pause, but there are now a whopping 52 explanations for why there has been no warming trend for the last 215 months.

Explanations for the pause in global warming range from ocean oscillation cycles to Chinese coal plant emissions, volcanic activity to some scientists even saying there is no hiatus in warming.

One recent study found that the warming hiatus is due to “heat transported to deeper layers in the Atlantic and the southern oceans, initiated by a recurrent salinity anomaly in the subpolar North Atlantic.”

This oceanic cooling cycle “associated with the latter deeper heat-sequestration mechanism historically lasted 20 to 35 years,” according to Professor Ka-Kit Tung from the University of Washington.

So what’s the latest explanation for why the Earth stopped warming? Europe’s Joint Research Center (JRC) says the hiatus in warming since 2001 is due to “a combination of a natural cooling phase, known as multidecadal variability (MDV), and a downturn of the secular warming trend.”

European Union scientists don’t know the exact what caused the “downturn of the secular warming trend,” but say “ the Earth hasn’t warmed at the same pace during the 20th century.” JRC researchers analyzed surface temperature records going back to 1850 to “separate natural variations from secular” ones.

Scientists discovered three hiatus periods in the temperature records — 1878 to 1907, 1945 to 1969 and 2001 to today — and concluded that these “hiatus periods coincide with natural cooling phases – the multidecadal variability (MDV), most likely caused by natural oceanic oscillations.”

“The scientists therefore conclude that the MDV is the main cause of these hiatus periods during which global warming decelerated,” according to JRC.

Earlier this week, scientists warned that Earth’s atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations reached 396 parts per million last year, and carbon dioxide levels were set to cross 400 parts per million by 2015 or 2016.

“We know without any doubt that our climate is changing and our weather is becoming more extreme due to human activities such as the burning of fossil fuels,” said Michel Jarraud, secretary-general of the World Meteorological Organization — a United Nation’s weather and climate science bureaucracy.

“The Greenhouse Gas Bulletin shows that, far from falling, the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere actually increased last year at the fastest rate for nearly 30 years,” Jarraud warned. “We must reverse this trend by cutting emissions of CO2 and other greenhouse gases across the board. We are running out of time.”

But Jarraud’s warning comes after reports that there has been no global warming for the past 215 months, according to satellite data. Furthermore, recent research suggests the “pause” in warming could last another decade.

Some climate scientists who are skeptical of theories that man-made global warming will have catastrophic impacts, say increasing carbon dioxide levels should not be alarming.

“The gradual increase in the rate of the rise of the carbon dioxide concentration is a sign that we are continuing to expand our energy use and availability, primarily in developing countries like India and China,” wrote Chip Knappenberger, assistant director of the Center for the Study of Science at the libertarian Cato Institute.

“With more than a billion people still without much access to electricity… and all the life-improving benefits that come with it, we still have a long way to go,” Knappenberger added. “Consequently, we should anticipate that the atmospheric CO2 concentration will continue to grow for many years to come.”

Note: Readers interested in seeing a complete list of explanations for the hiatus in global warming, the blog Watts Up With That keeps a running tally of all of them.

Some of the comments:

Tabitha Bliss • a day ago

Socialists will say ANYTHING to keep their anti-capitalism scam afloat long enough to do away with private property rights & put the UN in control of everything.
They think if they can just get us that far, it won't matter anymore what is discovered. Their liberal utopian transformation will be complete.

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NMEofTheState Tabitha Bliss • a day ago

Well said. They've made it crystal clear that there is no interest in raw scientific data - unless you consider computer modeling based on selective data.

As Sam Clemens once said: "There's lies, there's damn lies; and then there's statistics."
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Carcajou NMEofTheState • a day ago

The ENTIRE Global Warming SCAM is based on IPCC Climate models. The models have failed to predict anything. Yet, in violation of all scientific protocol the left continues to apply band aids to their failed theory. Stephen Hawking said it much better than I can.

Hawking's definition, a good scientific model:

" 1. Is elegant
2. Contains few arbitrary or adjustable elements
3. Agrees with and explains all existing observations
4. Makes detailed predictions about future observations that can disprove or falsify the model if they are not borne out."

Based on this definition by Hawking, IPCC Global Circulation models fail all scientific process miserably. These models predict nothing, even the IPCC now admits this; even though they have stated that they "think" the planet is warming. AGW is a political religion. It has nothing to do with science.
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rick Carcajou • a day ago

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled." -Samuel Clemens
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Time_4A_Change rick • a day ago

52 explanations for the pause in global warming? Wow. Even though that's a few less that the number of states in Obozo's Amerika, it's still more than the number of ways to leave your lover.
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cookiebob Time_4A_Change • a day ago

Don't come back Jack!
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[johnforbes]

The past summer, I had to wear a vest to run outside for two straight days in August!

This morning, it was 48 F and raining hard.

Global cooling!

[RealJustme]

Those who have tried to play the public for their agendas pretending natural climate changes can be altered and providing misleading information are the lowest form of life. The world has real problems but yet they try and milk citizens rather than dealing with real issues.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^johnforbes once again confusing weather for climate. :lol:

johnforbes is stupid.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^RealTool once again ignoring that 5000 years of gradual cooling have been completely reversed in just 100 years.
http://kottke.org/13/09/temperature-cha ... 1000-years

Yeah, being unlike anything in the past 11,000 years, clearly that's a "natural climate change" :lol:

Insipid, like forbes, again misses the big picture, focusing instead on brief periods of reprieve within a continuing steep incline of the trend line of average global temperatures.
Notice he never claims that the periodic downturns actually eliminated the entire preceding increases. They don't. The trend line continues up. But no one ever claimed that the average temperatures would map as a continuous straight line.
Insipid believes that because the current MODELS are still inadequate, that because scientists don't yet fully understand all the mechanisms affecting the observed phenomenon, that therefor the observed phenomenon they are attempting to describe doesn't exist.

Unsurprisingly, it is Insipid who has failed to refute the facts. (Oh, I guess that's why he said the Useful Idiots "can't refute the facts." He can't.)
Look at the graph of temperatures for the past 11,000 years and then argue that nothing unusual is occurring in the past 150 years.

Also:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... year-peak/

A few brief downturns say nothing about the continuing upward trend, dimwits.

[johnforbes]

Torricelli couldn't gauge the pressured speech, and distorted facts, in Clownslacker's post.

Not content with taking over -- and messing up -- the health insurance market, Obama's mavens now seek to take over climate for purposes of socialism.

[Malcolm]

A wise man (imho) once said ...... :idea:

[Intrepid]

The global warming hysterics are stumbling all over each other trying frantically to come up with a plausible explanation for why something they were warning was going to kill us all in the next 20 minutes....has been on hold for most of the last 20 years.

Their research funding is what is in desperate peril.

AlGore, when he triumphantly claimed his Nobel prize, claimed that by now the arctic would be completely ice free.
That turned out not to be true.
However, AlGore's mind has been revealed to be 100% fact free.

AlGore, a true and longtime 1% 'er (whose father long ago invested the entire family fortune in Occidental Petroleum. Irony much?) jets around the world spreading his blather in a private Gulfstream jet which burns more fuel on takeoff than an entire flotilla of Chevy Suburbans will in a lifetime. And the Useful Idiots and Low Information voters stand up and cheer as they hand over their money for his carbon credit scam.

And our resident Marxist junkie pothead stoner, Lucky, sits in his faded and tattered Che Guevara tee shirt and puffs on his bong. Furious that his Messiah has not lived up to his promise to fundamentally destroy the American way of life.
But not for want of trying.

FORWARD!

[RealJustme]

RealTool once again ignoring that 5000 years of gradual cooling have been completely reversed in just 100 years.

LOL, Clown in 2007 you guys said global warming had reached such an unbridled pitch, the North Pole would be completely ice-free during the summer of 2014, well the ice cap has actually expanded. Everyone of your predictions have been wrong and you wonder why more and more people are questioning your "science" :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Clownkicker]

RealTool is getting to be as bad a liar as Leroy lately.

LOL, RealTool in 2007 I never said global warming had reached such an unbridled pitch, the North Pole would be completely ice-free during the summer of 2014, but regardless, the ice cap has only rebounded slightly from its low point with a mild expansion. None of MY predictions have been wrong and I wonder why more and more people are questioning science.

RealTool must learn that it isn't only the square-mile-coverage of the summer ice that matters, but the THICKNESS of the ice as well.

Better yet, why don't you question the indigenous people up north who rely on the ice for their survival.
Ask THEM if the ice, on average, is being reduced.

[Intrepid]

Well, the ice in the ANTARCTIC was damn sure thick enough to strand the ship carrying the global warming hysteric scientists who set out to prove the ice had diminished substantively. Along with a couple of ice breakers sent to rescue them.

OOPS!

[Clownkicker]

And Insipid thinks that must prove global climate change is not occurring. :lol:

That's the problem with dimwitted reactionaries: they look out the window this year and see there is ice, so they conclude there will be ice 50 years from now.

Conservatives believe things will stay the same because they WANT them to stay the same, or that things are getting better simply because liberals said they are getting worse.

[johnforbes]

Clownsucker is seldom unbridled.

Indeed, given his horse face, the average citizen attempts to bridle him at first glance.

[RealJustme]

Clown - I never said global warming had reached such an unbridled pitch, the North Pole would be completely ice-free during the summer of 2014

So you didn't believe your global warming scientists back then but believe them now?

[Clownkicker]

No, that's a spurious question because I understand that when a scientist says, "If this trend continues, there will no summer ice in the Arctic by 2014." he means that this will be the case if the trend continues.

The trend didn't continue, so why would anyone be surprised that there are still things scientists don't know?

Any person who says "There will be no ice in the Arctic by _____ date is not a scientist, so I wouldn't believe them any more than I believe the mystical nonsense your priest feeds you on Sunday.
I listen to scientists, and no scientists said what you pretend they said.
That you believe that's what they said only shows us why you are "The Tool" to your handlers.
They love malleable clowns like you and Insipid.

[elklindo69]

As if the satellite imagery, sea level, and temperature readings have all been faked.

But that's what the global warming deniers want you to believe...

:roll:

[RealJustme]

No, that's a spurious question because I understand that when a scientist says, "If this trend continues, there will no summer ice in the Arctic by 2014." he means that this will be the case if the trend continues.

The trend didn't continue, so why would anyone be surprised that there are still things scientists don't know?

That's because there was no trend and those of educated enough to know bullshit when we hear it, said loud and clear in 2007 "BULLSHIT" you airheads bought hook line and sinker, that was back when they were calling it global warming, now you guys have been forced to call is "climate change" because the global warming was debunked.

Guess what, not one coastal city is under water as you guys predicted would happen when the ice melted. Many of us also called that BULLHSIT...and we were 100% spot on

[elklindo69]

No, that's a spurious question because I understand that when a scientist says, "If this trend continues, there will no summer ice in the Arctic by 2014." he means that this will be the case if the trend continues.

The trend didn't continue, so why would anyone be surprised that there are still things scientists don't know?

That's because there was no trend and those of educated enough to know bullshit when we hear it, said loud and clear in 2007 "BULLSHIT" you airheads bought hook line and sinker, that was back when they were calling it global warming, now you guys have been forced to call is "climate change" because the global warming was debunked.

Guess what, not one coastal city is under water as you guys predicted would happen when the ice melted. Many of us also called that BULLHSIT...and we were 100% spot on

Global warming = Climate Change

Conservative = Tea Party

Do you always argue style over substance?

So are all of the satellite images, water level, CO2 level, and temperature readings faked?

[johnforbes]

So, Elkin, what are you academic credentials in the realm of climate?

You have none.

[Intrepid]

Lucky, the global warming hysterical scientists set out to prove that diminishing ice was a major indicator that global warming was spreading like wildfire and about to cause the destruction of life on earth, as we know it. Unless we did something (such as have the United States write a huge check and greatly diminish our standard of living right down to third world, shit hole levels, which is what the global leftists have as their eventual goal) RIGHT NOW!

What they found instead, was greatly expanded ice which trapped their ship and embarrassed the entire mob.

You and your ilk cannot have it both ways. You cannot set out to prove lack of ice IS evidence of global warming, and then deny that greatly increased antarctic ice IS NOT evidence of lack of global warming.

Except in your drug deranged, rotted brain of course.
Now, go hit the bong and try to recover some of your mellow.

Like, wow man.....

[Clownkicker]

Duly noted: johnforbes is no longer allowed to express an opinion on climate change because he admits he has no academic credentials in that realm.

So shut the fuck up from now on, johnny, you truly magnificent hypocritical asshole.

[Clownkicker]

Now why wouldn't johnforbes ask for Insipid's or RealTool's academic credentials?

Because johnny is a hypocritical asshole.

[Clownkicker]

Insipid, demonstrating an utter lack of understanding of climate change and its implications does not make any kind of point against the scientists.

It only makes you look like a fool.

[Intrepid]

As I said Lucky junkie pothead stoner, you can't have it both ways. And Elkendoofus keeps on harping about satellite imagery, here is some:

Scientists say the extent of Antarctic sea ice cover is at its highest level since records began.

Satellite imagery reveals an area of about 20 million square kilometres covered by sea ice around the Antarctic continent.

Jan Lieser from the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre (CRC) said the discovery was made two days ago.

"This is an area covered by sea ice which we've never seen from space before," he said.

"Thirty-five years ago the first satellites went up which were reliably telling us what area, two dimensional area, of sea ice was covered and we've never seen that before, that much area.

"That is roughly double the size of the Antarctic continent and about three times the size of Australia."

Some more inconvenient facts for loser Lucky and the global warming hysterics:

Record Antarctic sea ice:

Antarctic sea ice covers 19.619 million sq km.
Maximum area recorded on September 12, 2014.
Third year in a row a record has been reached.
There has been a 1.5 per cent increase each decade since records began in 1979.

[brandon]

But the pause in the warming trend has not reversed, just stalled. And the Euroweenies scientists have pointed to similar pauses in the past. Still, to me, the C02 levels cant be good. And there is nothing at all wrong with burning less fossil fuels.

Just sayin'.

I think errbuddy needs to "chill out". :mrgreen:

[elklindo69]

So, Elkin, what are you academic credentials in the realm of climate?

You have none.

Typical John Forbes ad homenim retort, can't dispute the facts then shoot the messenger...

:lol:

[brandon]

Which brings me to a question. I have a big fireplace on both ends of the house, and a big all nighter stove in our family room. I burn the fuck out of a great deal of fire wood every winter. Am I killing the planet too?

[brandon]

And we harvested corn all day. Burning diesel. Beans are next. Then cotton. Drag and chop, till, winter wheat, spring wheat, veggies. Rinse and repeat.

We really are fucked.

[RealJustme]

Now why wouldn't johnforbes ask for Insipid's or RealTool's academic credentials?

Because we're not claiming man is changing the climate and New York will soon be under water, it's those who make the claim that have to prove it...and they have failed :lol: :lol: :lol:

[elklindo69]

Now why wouldn't johnforbes ask for Insipid's or RealTool's academic credentials?

Because we're not claiming man is changing the climate and New York will soon be under water, it's those who make the claim that have to prove it...and they have failed :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you are not claiming that humans are not altering the climate, fair enough.

So then what is causing skyrocketing

CO2 levels
Temperature readings
Rising Sea Levels

Is this all natural? If so what are the sources?

Or are all the measurements faked?

[RealJustme]

So then what is causing skyrocketing

CO2 levels
Temperature readings
Rising Sea Levels

Is this all natural? If so what are the sources?

Or are all the measurements faked?

Skyrocketing, got a source for that claim? Yeah you guys told us the inner earth is now millions of degrees hot but most real scientist disagree with you guys, just like our coastal cities are sinking and the world's ice is melting, all false. When you guys make skyrocketing claims like that you need skyrocketing evidence...and that is where you guys fall apart.

[elklindo69]

So then what is causing skyrocketing

CO2 levels
Temperature readings
Rising Sea Levels

Is this all natural? If so what are the sources?

Or are all the measurements faked?

Skyrocketing, got a source for that claim? Yeah you guys told us the inner earth is now millions of degrees hot but most real scientist disagree with you guys, just like our coastal cities are sinking and the world's ice is melting, all false. When you guys make skyrocketing claims like that you need skyrocketing evidence...and that is where you guys fall apart.

http://climate.nasa.gov/key_indicators/

[johnforbes]

So, Elkin, what are you academic credentials in the realm of climate?

[RealJustme]

Leave it Elk to provide a link to NASA data, even NASA has admitted was wrong.

NASA /– Maps from NASA’s GISS reveal temperatures where no data exist, thanks to mathematical extrapolation of data.

Another Scientist Dissents! NASA scientist Dr. Les Woodcock ‘Laughs’ at Global Warming – Top Prof. Declares: ‘Global warming is nonsense’

Emeritus Professor Chemical Thermodynamics Dr. Leslie Woodcock of the University of Manchester’s School of Chemical Engineering and Analytical Science and a NASA researcher, dissented on man-made global warming. Woodcock declared there was “professional misconduct by Government advisors around the world” when it comes to man-made climate change claims. Woodcock, who received his PhD from the University of London, (Full Bio here - les.woodcock@manchester.ac.uk) is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Chemistry, a founding editor of Molecular Simulation, and a recipient of a Max Planck Society Visiting Fellowship, has more than 70 published journal papers, explained: “The theory of ‘man-made climate change’ is an unsubstantiated hypothesis’ – water is a much more powerful greenhouse gas and there is is 20 time more of it in our atmosphere (around one per cent of the atmosphere) whereas CO2 is only 0.04% – ‘Carbon dioxide has been made out to be some kind of toxic gas but the truth is it’s the gas of life. We breath it out, plants breath it in. The green lobby has created a do-good industry and it becomes a way of life, like a religion.”

Woodcock continued: “The temperature of the earth has been going up and down for millions of years, if there are extremes, it’s nothing to do with carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, it’s not permanent and it’s not caused by us. Global warming is nonsense.”

“If you talk to real scientists who have no political interest, they will tell you there is nothing in global warming. It’s an industry which creates vast amounts of money for some people.

“The reason records seem to be being frequently broken is simply because we only started keeping them about 100 years ago. There will always be some record broken somewhere when we have another natural fluctuation in weather.

“Its absolutely stupid to blame floods on climate change.

“This is not the way science works. If you tell me that you have a theory there is a teapot in orbit between the earth and the moon, its not up to me to prove it does not exist, its up to you to provide the reproducible scientific evidence for your theory. Such evidence for the man-made climate change theory has not been forthcoming.”


NASA was able to put a man on the moon, but the space agency can’t tell you what the temperature was when it did. By its own admission, NASA’s temperature records are in even worse shape than the besmirched Climate-gate data.

E-mail messages obtained by a Freedom of Information Act request reveal that NASA concluded that its own climate findings were inferior to those maintained by both the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) — the scandalized source of the leaked Climate-gate e-mails — and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Climatic Data Center.

The e-mails from 2007 reveal that when a USA Today reporter asked if NASA’s data “was more accurate” than other climate-change data sets, NASA’s Dr. Reto A. Ruedy replied with an unequivocal no. He said “the National Climatic Data Center’s procedure of only using the best stations is more accurate,” admitting that some of his own procedures led to less accurate readings.

“My recommendation to you is to continue using NCDC’s data for the U.S. means and [East Anglia] data for the global means,” Ruedy told the reporter.

“NASA’s temperature data is worse than the Climate-gate temperature data. According to NASA,” wrote Christopher Horner, a senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute who uncovered the e-mails. Horner is skeptical of NCDC’s data as well, stating plainly: “Three out of the four temperature data sets stink.”

…

Try again Elk :roll: