[elklindo69]

Apparently not in this tragic story.................

JERSEY CITY, N.J. – A gunman who killed a rookie officer responding to a report of an armed robbery at a drugstore early Sunday never tried to rob the store and instead lay in wait for police, telling a witness to watch the news because he was "going to be famous," authorities said.

Lawrence Campbell, 27, shot Officer Melvin Santiago in the head shortly after he and his partner arrived at the 24-hour Walgreens at around 4 a.m., Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop said. Other officers returned fire at Campbell, killing him.

Campbell, of Jersey City, was one of three suspects wanted by police for a prior homicide, Fulop said.

Fulop said Campbell was carrying a knife when he walked into Walgreens and asked for directions to the greeting card aisle. He assaulted an armed security guard at the store and snatched his gun, Fulop said. He waited for police to arrive, then shot Santiago with what police believe was the guard's weapon.

[RealJustme]

Campbell was stopped by a good guy with a gun.

[brandon]

I guess this thread is supposed to demonstrate that guns are the problem in America. That we have an out of control gun problem. What it really demonstrates to me is the stupidity and ignorance of the poster. I say ignorance because there is so much one must ignore to make such a silly little partisan argument. But partisan politics are for the stupid. Or little fascists like Elk.

Why no comments about the killer? He was already wanted for a previous murder. Why not consider the sneak attack on the security guard? The good guy. With a knife? Or the sneak attack on the LEO who was shot from behind through the back window while still in his vehicle? Or the victims families? Or the fact that the killer said he wanted and was going to be famous for killing a cop? Nothing about this being a mental health issue? A cultural issue? A socioeconomic consequence?

America does not have a gun problem or an out of control gun culture. America has a problem with the breakdown of the family, poverty, drugs, gangs, irresponsibility, and cultural rot. It is urban. It does not have a problem with millions of law abiding gun owners. Ignoring that for the sake of a partisan political agenda is fascist. But Elklindo isn't interested in anyone else's freedom.

[johnforbes]

That's the way leftists always operate, with either fake arguments built on one atypical story.

Or with threads drenched in personal insults.

Look at Grog and Clownhicker and the many other leftist kids who have posted here.

Could any of them mount a serious argument and defend their position? No, all they could do is post insults, then they feigned surprise that nobody took them seriously.

[Clownkicker]

"Could any of them mount a serious argument and defend their position? No, all they could do is post insults, then they feigned surprise that nobody took them seriously."-johnforbes

This is hilarious for two reasons.
First, jophnforbes has NEVER been able to mount a serious argument and then follow up with a defense of his position.
If his position is questioned, he merely copy-and-pastes his previous post as his sole response. He is not capable of arguing his position. He can only pontificate.
He's intellectually impotent and proves it regularly by his inability to defend a position that he pompously states without supporting argument or evidence.

Secondly, there is no point in trying to discuss anything with you clowns. Whenever I have done so, whenever I have spent a half hour to formulate a well thought out post, including supporting links and evidence, the threads die because none of you are either interested or able to discuss a topic intelligently. You all just leave and go on to the next blathering knee-jerk talking point from your handlers. And johnforbes in particular pronounces platitudes which he can only C&P.

Here's an example to prove johnforbes to be a liar.
http://forums.voyeurweb.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6618

I proved that I am indeed capable of mounting a serious argument. After that I proved that I could defend my position where none of you clowns could defend yours.
I challenge johnforbes to produce a link to his latest thread where he actually defends his position intelligently.
He can't because he has NEVER actually done it.


"That's the way leftists always operate, with either fake arguments built on one atypical story.
Or with threads drenched in personal insults."-johnforbes

Now that's truly hilarious. This coming from the ONLY poster here who starts entire threads of nothing but personal insults.

[johnforbes]

Clownhicker is absolutely correct that I don't take him/her/it seriously.

Nor do I read postings from Clownhicker.

He is just the sort of emptyheaded juvenile who gives the Left a bad name.

[Clownkicker]

Admitting you've been lying doesn't exactly help your credibility, johnny.

[johnforbes]

Clownhicker is absolutely correct that I don't take him/her/it seriously.

Nor do I read postings from Clownhicker.

He is just the sort of emptyheaded juvenile who gives the Left a bad name.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, you shouldn't get so frustrated just because you can never refute a thing I say.

That is the sad fate of every loudmouthed, preening fop who hasn't the education or life experience to discuss opposing ideas.

[johnforbes]

Clownhicker is absolutely correct that I don't take him/her/it seriously.

Nor do I read postings from Clownhicker.

He is just the sort of emptyheaded juvenile who gives the Left a bad name.

[Clownkicker]

We're still waiting for johnforbes to link to a thread, any thread at all, in which he states a political position and then defends it. :lol:

He is just the sort of "emptyheaded" juvenile who gives the Right a bad name.

[johnforbes]

Chain, chain, chain, Clownhicker is just another link in his chain of fools.

Clownhicker is absolutely correct that I don't take him/her/it seriously.

Nor do I read postings from Clownhicker.

He is just the sort of emptyheaded juvenile who gives the Left a bad name.

[johnforbes]

John, good point.

[Clownkicker]

johnforbes still can't find a thread in which he took a position and then defended that position. :lol:

[Grog]

Forbes has defended many a stall with Larry Craig even whilst texting the sights, sounds and smells to Mark Foley.



Ah, the ruffle of taffeta and the preening prance of typing with a discernible lisp of effete and effeminate effrontery can only mean Forbes is in the house once again seeking out JustFreedManMe's minuscule scepter to validate their co-rule of the clueless conservative cadre.

[johnforbes]

Chain, chain, chain, Clownhicker is just another link in his chain of fools.

Clownhicker is absolutely correct that I don't take him/her/it seriously.

Nor do I read postings from Clownhicker.

He is just the sort of emptyheaded juvenile who gives the Left a bad name.

[Clownkicker]

johnforbes says he doesn't take me seriously and he doesn't read my posts, yet he posts compulsively whenever I post.

In other words, he admits he is posting mindlessly, not even knowing what he is criticizing, just like a rat in a Skinner box, slapping his keyboard spastically like a contestant in a slot machine tournament in order to put up yet another piece of brainless tripe.

That's what you get when you lack the education or life experience to discuss opposing ideas intelligently.




I'm positive johnforbes is stupid.

[tvd]

Forbes has defended many a stall with Larry Craig even whilst texting the sights, sounds and smells to Mark Foley.



Ah, the ruffle of taffeta and the preening prance of typing with a discernible lisp of effete and effeminate effrontery can only mean Forbes is in the house once again seeking out JustFreedManMe's minuscule scepter to validate their co-rule of the clueless conservative cadre.

As I have said many times before....this guy Grog simply knows too much about the BTLG lifestyle to not be gay himself.
And, this liberal, tolerant example of a VW poster continues to slam everyone he disagrees with by using what??? why gay slurs of course.

Yes, Grog, I am afraid you are one. Come on out whilst the board watches for your next move, you limey whiner.

[johnforbes]

This morning, shortly after dawn, the mist covered the entire lake.

Grog's posts are laced with homo ideation, which leads inexorably to the recognition that Grog himself is as covered in gayness as Clownhicker is covered in stupidity.

[Grog]

Ah, the ruffle of taffeta and the preening prance of typing with a discernible lisp of effete and effeminate effrontery can only mean Forbes is in the house once again seeking out JustFreedManMe's minuscule scepter to validate their co-rule of the clueless conservative cadre.

[johnforbes]

Grog's posts are laced with homo ideation, which leads inexorably to the recognition that Grog himself is as covered in gayness as Clownhicker is covered in stupidity.

[Grog]

Ah, the ruffle of taffeta and the preening prance of typing with a discernible lisp of effete and effeminate effrontery can only mean Forbes is in the house once again seeking out JustFreedManMe's minuscule scepter to validate their co-rule of the clueless conservative cadre.

[johnforbes]

Grog's posts are laced with homo ideation.

Which leads inexorably to the recognition that Grog himself is as covered in gayness as Clownhicker is covered in stupidity.

[Grog]

Ah, the ruffle of taffeta and the preening prance of typing with a discernible lisp of effete and effeminate effrontery can only mean Forbes is in the house once again seeking out JustFreedManMe's minuscule scepter to validate their co-rule of the clueless conservative cadre.

[johnforbes]

Grog's posts are laced with homo ideation.

Which leads inexorably to the recognition that Grog himself is as covered in gayness as Clownhicker is covered in stupidity.

[johnforbes]

Nodding.