[RealJustme]

Iraq crisis: Isis jihadists 'seize Saddam Hussein's WMD stockpile' - live Chemical weapons produced at the Al Muthanna facility, which Isis today seized, are believed to have included mustard gas, Sarin, Tabun, and VX.

Here is the CIA's file on the complex.

Quote Stockpiles of WMD are still stored there. The most dangerous ones have been declared to the UN and are sealed in bunkers. Under an agreement signed in Baghdad in July 2012, experts from the MOD’s Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (Dstl) were due to provide training to Iraqi personnel in order to help them to dispose of the chemical munitions and agents.

The capture of the chemical-weapon stockpile by the forces of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, known as ISIS or ISIL, the militant group that is seizing territory in the country, has grabbed the attention of the U.S.

"We remain concerned about the seizure of any military site by the ISIL," Jen Psaki, the State Department spokeswoman, said in a written statement.

The remaining chemical weapons from Saddam Hussein's regime are stored in two sealed bunkers, both located at the Al Muthanna Chemicals Weapons Complex, a large site in the western desert some 80km north west of Baghdad. Although the WMD stock piles were found in 2010, the discovery was kept secret to avoid exploitation and possible theft.

This was the principal manufacturing plant for both chemical agents and munitions during Saddam Hussein’s rule.

Thousands of tonnes of chemical weapons were produced, stored and deployed by the Saddam Hussein regime. Iraq used these weapons during the Iran - Iraq War (1980 to 1988) and against the Kurds in Halabja in 1988.

[johnforbes]

Jen Psaki, now there's a piece of work.

Young, arrogant, and awful at her job of telling lies.

[Intrepid]

But, but, but....there WERE no WMDs, everyone knows that!

[RealJustme]

Liberals will still swear there Iraq never had WMD, that's their marching orders. Of course Saddam had WMD, he wiped out whole villages with them, I laugh when someone tells me Saddam didn't have WMD, the WMD compounds are still there.

[Clownkicker]

Yeah, that's "the CIA's file on the complex." :lol:


Jeezus, you morons, get with the program.
You saps fall for anything your handlers tell you.

[elklindo69]

So the jihadists have vindicated the Bush admin???

:lol:

[Intrepid]

The Lucky Junkie Pothead Stoner should tell all those dead Kurds killed by gas delivered by artillery shells that Saddam never had WMDs. That should make it all better.

[Intrepid]

And, as a preemptive strike against Lucky Junkie Pothead Stoner ClowDicker's anticipated response, here is, once again, the list of statements from Donkey-rats supporting the idea that Saddam had WMDs. Sometimes it's necessary to grab Lucky Junkie Pothead Stoner ClownDicker by the cute little stoner ponytail just above his pencil neck, jerk him to his feet, bitch slap him forehand and backhand, and knee him in the balls to bring him out of his heroin and weed induced stupor and slam him face first into the facts. Lucky Junkie Pothead Stoner ClownDicker hates facts as they conflict with his emotion driven, knee jerk Marxist world view.

Without further fanfare, here are your favorite Donkey-rats waxing eloquent about Saddam and WMDs:


"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

[Clownkicker]

"His Lordship should tell all those dead Kurds killed by gas delivered by artillery shells that Saddam never had WMDs. That should make it all better."-Insipid

No one ever said Saddam never had chemical weapons, you idiot.
It was ALWAYS known that he had the weapons and components President Reagan sold to him.

You can't sell a guy weapons and then claim he's a terrible guy because he has terrible weapons we sold to him.
He was no more terrible for having chemical weapons than we are for selling them.



By the way, retard, why would I care what a bunch of Democrats said?
And besides, you're too stupid to realize that most of those quotations don't say anything about Saddam actually having WMDs.
It's a bunch of a "capacity" or "developing capacity" or "seeking to develop" or a "program" or a "threat" to develop, anything but actually claiming that Saddam had anything beyond what we sold him.
Just how stupid are you?

Don't you dimwits speak "politician"?
It's all carefully worded to avoid an outright lie but still convinces all the morons like you that there's a threat to us.
Saddam was never a threat to us.

[RealJustme]

No one ever said Saddam never had chemical weapons, you idiot...
IAnd besides, you're too stupid to realize that most of those quotations don't say anything about Saddam actually having WMDs...Just how stupid are you?

See what I mean, first Clown admits Saddam had WMD's then he denies he had them in the next sentence. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Clownkicker]

^^^^The finer points always fly right over the heads of this moron.

RealTool's mind has all the subtlety of a sledge hammer.

[RealJustme]

RealTool's mind has all the subtlety of a sledge hammer.

I sure hammer you a lot!

Carlos

[Intrepid]

And besides, you're too stupid to realize that most of those quotations don't say anything about Saddam actually having WMDs.

-Lucky Junkie Pothead Stoner ClownDicker.

Go through them again. A lot of them do exactly that. Summon your two remaining unburned brain synapses and try to concentrate you pot head idiot.
You can't stay on message, try to defend your fellow libtards and carry water for your failed Messiah, ZeroBama. It's all too much for a poor, smoke brained junkie to keep up with.

But it sure is fun watching you try.

BTW, where did that "Lordship" thing come from? Oh yeah, that same smoke and cobweb filled cavity that used to house your brain. Go hit the bong again and try to find your mellow d00d.

Like, wow man.



Still winning....

[Clownkicker]

I did go through them again, dimwit, and only three say he has any weapons at all---the weapons we sold him.
Not one claims he has anything beyond what we or Europe sold to him.


"BTW, where did that "Lordship" thing come from?"-Stupid fuck

BTW, where did that "-Lucky Junkie Pothead Stoner ClownDicker" come from?
You're so stupid you still think I'm Lucky and you still don't get that you consume far more drugs than I do.
And you're "Still whining."

You're like a "stupid" machine, just mindlessly cranking out more and more stupid.

[johnforbes]

My staffers have compared Clownhick's IQ to that of an ordinary sledgehammer.

Alas, the sledgehammer won decisively.

[Clownkicker]

Jeezus, johnny, get some new material.
It wasn't funny the last ten times you used it and all it does is parade your utter lack of wit.

[tvd]

I did go through them again, dimwit, and only three say he has any weapons at all---the weapons we sold him.

Seeing as how you are so precise...where do any of the posted quotes claim anything about the weapons we sold him?
They speak of Saddam's WMD program. Not "what we sold him".

Where do you get that nugget? Who says we sold him anything?

[Clownkicker]

All the chemical weapons Saddam had were stuff that Reagan and our 'allies' sold to him.

We always knew about them. The U.N. always knew about them.
Thus, anytime chemical weapons are talked about, they are talking about the stuff we sold him.

[tvd]

Real quickly from WIKI....
Mentions nothing about US selling WMD's to Iraq.

"Western help with Iraq's WMD program[edit]

This section needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (January 2011)

The United States exported support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war over $500 million worth of dual use exports to Iraq that were approved by the Commerce department. Among them were advanced computers, some of which were used in Iraq's nuclear program.[32] The non-profit American Type Culture Collection and the Centers for Disease Control sold or sent biological samples of anthrax, West Nile virus and botulism to Iraq up until 1989, which Iraq claimed it needed for medical research. A number of these materials were used for Iraq's biological weapons research program, while others were used for vaccine development.[33][dead link] For example, the Iraqi military settled on the American Type Culture Collection strain 14578 as the exclusive anthrax strain for use as a biological weapon, according to Charles Duelfer.[34][dead link]

In the late 1980s, the British government secretly gave the arms company Matrix Churchill permission to supply parts for Saddam Hussein's weapons program, while British Industry supplied Gerald Bull as he developed the Iraqi supergun. In March 1990, a case of nuclear triggers bound for Iraq, were seized at Heathrow Airport. The Scott Report uncovered much of the secrecy that had surrounded the Arms-to-Iraq affair when it became known.[35] The British government also financed a chlorine factory that was intended to be used for manufacturing mustard gas.[36]

Niger provided yellowcake in 1981.[37]"

Now granted, the possibility of incomplete info is real.
But, considering the controversy over WMD's and Iraq, wouldn't you think that if it were true that western powers supplied WMD's to Iraq, that it would be here? Surely someone would have added it....but no....

[tvd]

All the chemical weapons Saddam had were stuff that Reagan and our 'allies' sold to him.

We always knew about them. The U.N. always knew about them.
Thus, anytime chemical weapons are talked about, they are talking about the stuff we sold him.

BS, man. You are just trying to deflect blame onto the west....
Show me some proof...not just your allegations.

[Clownkicker]

I don't have a lot of time right now to go into this, but here's a start and you can take your research from there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... apons.html

You need to understand that WE are the ones who made Saddam who he was so he would fight Iran for us in the 80's.
We did to him what we did to Noriega. When he got to be too big a nuisance, we pretended to be outraged and took him out.

[Clownkicker]

By the way, Niger never supplied yellow cake to Saddam.
The WIKI entry is wrong on that.

[RealJustme]

By the way, Niger never supplied yellow cake to Saddam.
The WIKI entry is wrong on that.

Who said he did? He didn't become President until 2008.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^^Yeah, this clown isn't racist at all.

[RealJustme]

Get your mind out of the gutter Clown!

[Clownkicker]

^^^^RealTool faulting me for bending down low enough for him to hear me. :lol:


If you would crawl out of your gutter once in a while, I wouldn't have to visit you on your home turf, would I?

[johnforbes]

I never saw Clownhicker's comment, so I'll file it away as trivia and not hammer poor Clownhick further.

Clownhick's commentary is hackneyed, and he is screwed seeking to drive his points.

Clownhick is caught in a vise between his stupidity on one side and his clownishness on the other.

[Clownkicker]

johnforbes yammers on and on with his idiotic blather, but for some reason he can never refute a thing I post.

johnny is nothing but a loud-mouthed, impotent douche.

[johnforbes]

I never saw Clownhicker's comment, so I'll file it away as trivia and not hammer poor Clownhick further.

Clownhick's commentary is hackneyed, and he is screwed seeking to drive his points.

Clownhick is caught in a vise between his stupidity on one side and his clownishness on the other.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^Still flogging that limp noodle dangling in his crotch.

Try a Viagra, johnny.
But it still won't do a thing for your intellectual impotence.

[johnforbes]

I never saw Clownhicker's comment, so I'll file it away as trivia and not hammer poor Clownhick further.

Clownhick's commentary is hackneyed, and he is screwed seeking to drive his points.

Clownhick is caught in a vise between his stupidity on one side and his clownishness on the other.

[Clownkicker]

"I never saw His Lordships comment..."-Dimwit

^^^^^now johnny is admitting he's ignorant of what he is commenting about.
But that's old news. His ignorance is as legendary as his hypocrisy.

"His Lordship is caught in a vise between his stupidity [johnforbes] on one side and his clownishness [RealTool] on the other."-Dimwit

We know all about your stupidity and RealTool's clownishness, johnny.
Your flaccid mind can only regurgitate the obvious.

[johnforbes]

I forget who posted this above, but the remarks seem quite on point:

I never saw Clownhicker's comment, so I'll file it away as trivia and not hammer poor Clownhick further.

Clownhick's commentary is hackneyed, and he is screwed seeking to drive his points.

Clownhick is caught in a vise between his stupidity on one side and his clownishness on the other.

[Clownkicker]

As someone who still retains his mental faculties, I remember with utmost clarity who said:
"johnforbes yammers on and on with his idiotic blather, but for some reason he can never refute a thing I post.
johnny is nothing but a loud-mouthed, impotent douche."

I did.

It's always sad to watch someone such as johnforbes, with his already flaccid mind, also lose his memory.
He's not just stupid. He can't even remember he's stupid.




Now let's see if we can get johnny to copy-and-paste himself again like a trained monkey, shall we?

[johnforbes]

These remarks seem quite on point:

I never saw Clownhicker's comment, so I'll file it away as trivia and not hammer poor Clownhick further.

Clownhick's commentary is hackneyed, and he is screwed seeking to drive his points.

Clownhick is caught in a vise between his stupidity on one side and his clownishness on the other.

[Clownkicker]

"Oooo, ooo, oooo, ahh, aahh, aahhh!"-johnforbes

[Intrepid]

I call you Lucky because you ARE the same Lucky who used to come in here bragging about all the weed you smoke and skin popping heroin. Thinking that somehow made you all cool, hip and sophisticated. The same Lucky who thought he could BS everyone talking about his "mistress" and having three ways with his crank skank old lady. The same Lucky who used a pot plant as his avatar. The same Lucky who, along with Grog and the late, not so great James who was banned from VW for being total assholes and general douchebaggery. Although James also committed the sin of trying to hack Homeclips because he was a penniless deadbeat who depended on handouts from another libtard, Damned, to help him get by. How does being a part of that particular troika make you feel, Lucky? You had to sign in with a different version of "Lucky" nearly every day to escape the ban. I suppose being shunned and feeling like a total outcast sack of shit (in that you were right on the money) resulted in your bitterness and anger.

What happened? Did you kick the powder and are trying to leave those days behind? Or is the monkey on your back still fucking you in the ass? Have you sold everything you own, your crank skank old lady no longer able to bring in enough cash through whoring on the streets of Greenville, S.C. to feed your heroin habit so you are now reduced to giving blow jobs in interstate rest area and truck stop rest rooms? Maybe if you call your buddy the crotch sniffing, leg humping Dogshitzilla he will drive over from N.C. and cuddle with you after you smoke a few bowls. That should make you feel better.

You are a loser doper and an Marxist Useful Idiot ZeroBama ass licking fuckwad who never developed the ability to think beyond the propaganda your Marxist professors fed you along with their dicks. That's what drugs will do to a young mind. Being a southern fried, grits chomping, inbred hillbilly, sister fucking (when mom is too drunk to accommodate you or you are too stoned to catch one of the pigs that share your shack) toothless hick hasn't helped either.

Now you worthless shred of wasted human DNA, go hit your bong and get your day off to it's usual start, in a **** of weed smoke.

Like, wow d00d!

(Please spend a long, long time composing a scorching reply that will result in you having to smoke a bale of weed and inject a soup ladle full of Mexican black tar just to calm down. All that is going to be wasted because I'm not going to read it you jerkoff loser junkie)

P.S. Best wishes for you to very soon score from your dealer a batch of H that somehow someone forgot to step on and is full strength. Dilute it in a pint or so of 'shine from the still out back of your trailer house and have your crank skank old lady inject it up your ass with a turkey baster. I hear that's the way the really cool kids are doing it these days. Then you will find your ultimate mellow and join others such as Keith Moon, Jimi Hendrix, John Belushi,
Janis Joplin et al in the Pantheon of junkies.

Winning.

[Intrepid]

I wonder why VW obscures the word "c l o u d"?

[Clownkicker]

But see? That's just it.
I'm not Lucky.
I've never done drugs like you do.
I've never claimed to do drugs.
And I've never done any of those things you attribute to me.

That you can't see I'm not him from the fundamental differences in our writing is the proof that you aren't as smart as you think you are.
And that you don't know why VW obscures the word "c l o u d " after you were just talking about James hacking this joint shows that you're downright stupid.

But thanks for spending another 20 minutes obsessing over Lucky yet again.
It's so boring I literally couldn't read your whole dumb rant. You're "still whining."
Lucky would be laughing his head off at you.
He still owns you the way Grog and I own johnforbes.

[johnforbes]

By the power vested in me by the electronic bulletin board, I hereby command Clownhicker to continue posting his moronic, vapid commentary here.

Clownhicker must comply.