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#41026
A preliminary report released Wednesday found “serious conditions” at the Phoenix Veterans Affairs facility, including hundreds of veterans who were never placed on an official wait list and faulty scheduling practices that meant some veterans would never see a doctor.

“We identified an additional 1,700 veterans who were waiting for a primary care appointment but were not on the [electronic wait list,]” the report from the VA inspector general said. “Most importantly, these veterans were and continue to be at risk of being forgotten or lost in Phoenix [healthcare system’s] convoluted scheduling process. As a result, these veterans may never obtain a requested or required clinical appointment.”

The report verified that at least 40 veterans died while awaiting care on a secret wait list at the Arizona VA facility as a result of fabricated and manipulate government documents at the highest levels in the facility.

Currently 42 VA medical centers across the country have been identified as using the same deceptive practices resulting in untold numbers of Veterans not receiving needed healthcare. The number of Veterans who died as a result of intentional deception by the VA could number in thousands.
Manslaughter charges should be pursued by the DOJ for every VA employee involved and for those who knew of it and did nothing to stop the killings. Will Holder step up to the plate?
#41033
Media outlets have ignored scandal after scandal because they agree politically with Obama.

Benghazi -- lies at the highest levels of govt about deaths in an embassy outpost before an election -- was always more serious than Watergate. But the media studiously ignored it.

The lies about Obamacare were about health plans affecting millions. And EVERYBODY has had their costs INCREASED by Obamacare.

Finally, though, the VA mess cannot be ignored by the media.

Obama is incompetent as well as being a leftist.
#41036
Finally, though, the VA mess cannot be ignored by the media.
Americans are fighting mad that our government is treating our Vet's with less compassion than they would treat a dog, Obama brags about everyone deserving the best healthcare America can offer while denying our Vets needed care. It's past time for arrests to be made, if a private ran hospital had been doing this to illegals you can bet Holder would already rounded up those involved and the media would be screaming for instant justice.
#41045
Amen, Justme. I don't agree with you sometimes, but I think you are spot on this time.
Obama and his piss ant Czars have underestimated the appreciation Americans have for Veterans, who unlike them have actually done something to help our country. Obama will be forced to come off of the golf course on this one.
#41055
Whoever is in office should fix the problems of government as soon as it becomes clear. Everyone running for office says that they are going to make things right. Obama is on TV right now saying that he didn't hear about the problems at VA until just recently. If that is true, how come I've been hearing about the problems at VA for decades? Are our "leaders" telling me that those of us that served don't matter? I agree with Justme on this...some people should go to prison for causing the deaths of veterans. If I cause the death of anyone; the least I'll be charged with is manslaughter. Those who caused the deaths of at least 40 vets deserrve jail time.
#41056
Obama is on TV right now saying that he didn't hear about the problems at VA until just recently. If that is true, how come I've been hearing about the problems at VA for decades?......snake
You have to remember that Obama was living overseas during all those decades.

Even so, he was a member of the Veterans Affairs committee during those 2 weeks he actually worked as a senator...and even made the VA hospitals part of his presidential campaign.
#41071
Obama is on TV right now saying that he didn't hear about the problems at VA until just recently.
Once again Obama caught in big fat lie. He claims he didn't know about the deplorable conditions in the VA hospitals until he heard about it in the news two weeks ago? Obama allowed conditions and appointed leaders that allowed veterans to die rather than receiving medical care, he is just as guilty as anyone and should be held accountable for the deaths. His actions/inactions/cover ups/lies were nothing less than criminal.
Obama, 2007: Time to End ‘Deplorable Conditions at VA Hospitals’ After seven years of an Administration that has stretched our military to the breaking point, ignored deplorable conditions at some VA hospitals and unacceptable wait times to be seen for their medical conditions. They have neglected the planning and preparation necessary to care for our returning heroes, America’s veterans deserve a President who will fight for them not just when it’s easy or convenient, but every hour of every day for the next four years.
#41074
Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki apologized Friday for what he called "irresponsible and unacceptable" practices at VA health care facilities. "I cannot explain the lack of integrity amongof the leaders of our health care facilities," he said. "This is something I rarely encountered during 38 years in uniform.
Now comes Obamacare with leaders selected with the same qualities as those that led the VA.
#41082
snakeoil wrote:What in hell do we have to do to get responsible people in office? Don't say Democrat or Republican or Independent because theyr'e all one and the same. Money talks...Bullshit gets elected to office.
Very good point Snake. We have NO statesmen anymore. All self-serving bastards.
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