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By johnforbes
#39056
You can keep your doctor.

You can keep your plan.

Premiums will decline $2500 for a typical family.

Obamacare will be deficit-neutral or -- and even bigger lie -- lower the deficit.

Now, the White House claims 6 million signed up for Obamacare, but 6.2 million had health plans cancelled because of Obamacare.
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By RealJustme
#39061
The numbers the Obama administration are providing concerning those who have enrolled in Obamacare are all cooked numbers, everyone knows it, everyone. The difference is some support the lies to further their agendas, the means justify the end for them. Obamacare is to big to fail so trillions will be pumped into it, healthcare for most Americans will suffer, lies will be acceptable for those support the agenda.
By lumpster
#39062
You'll never hear me defend Obamacare it was the biggest failure of his administration all he had to do was expand the role of medicare and medicad and It would have covered all the issues they wanted with Obamacare. This will fail because it has no choice..
By johnforbes
#39067
I agree with Lumpster that, if anything should have been done, just expand Medicare.

For that, and anything else, any president -- of any party, at any time -- should get bipartisan agreement.

Why? Because every American has health, or lack thereof. Health care isn't a partisan matter.

What is shocking is that the AP and the LA Times are running articles claiming that Obamacare is doing well because 7 million signed up. Hey, are they the same 6.2 million who had their policies cancelled due to Obamacare?
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By RealJustme
#39071
Obama lied about "everything" to get Obamacare rolled out, now he's lying about the costs and number of people enrolled to keep it going.

One thing the media is doing a poor job of covering is the side deal Obama made with insurance companies to get them to write the policies. Obama signed a contract with them that guarantees "they will" make a profit, even if the money they collect doesn't cover their costs (not even close), the government will make up the difference...which will costs tax payers 100's of billions per year.

It's estimate at least 50% of the Obamacare insured receiving government subsidies don't qualify for the amount of subsides they're receiving. Upon signing up it shows the different subsidies rates based upon different amounts of income and family members. It then goes on to explain the information you input is will not be verified through other federal agencies but it does encourage you to be honest. There is a warning that it's later determined you entered information that wasn't factual it "may" affect your subside rates from that point on but there would be no collections of prior subsides already provided. 90% of Obama voters will take that as a green light to lie to get more subsides...in fact it was a green light to get more people signed up.

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By johnforbes
#39103
Any social plan pushed through by only one party is a mistake -- that's partisan hubris.

What price has Obama paid for his hubris?

Dem candidates now will run away from him knowing they want to get reelected in November.

What is shocking is that the AP and the LA Times are running articles claiming that Obamacare is doing well because 7 million signed up. Hey, are they the same 6.2 million who had their policies cancelled due to Obamacare?
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By RealJustme
#39110
How can the Obama Administration all of a sudden come up with accurate numbers to the decimal point on Obamcare?

Sign up means someone has filled in the blanks and asked for a quote to the Obama Administration, to a business that would not mean they have purchased a product, so why is our government counting them as signed up?

Just like Obama's prior lies it will come out that the 7.1 million is just another lie, liberals won't care but pissed off citizens will storm the election ballots in Nov to vote the liars out of office. Obama lives for the day, just like a drug addict, he can't see tomorrow, he'll pretend yesterday never happened.
By Intrepid
#39114
Once again Elk reveals just how lost in the land of the clueless he really is. Nobody but Elk stepped up to the plate to defend this nonsense over 7.1 million new enrolees. Even the staunchest of the Useful Idiots are silent in the face of this latest bald faced lie.
But not Elk.
Marching to the beat of a drummer only Elk can hear.
By BilboBagend
#39127
Biggest Obamacare Lies:

There are sooooo many.

Death panels
Cost increases due to ACA
communism
tyranny

Faux news, the heritage foundation, etc have made up a shitload of lies.
By johnforbes
#39166
Any social plan pushed through by only one party is a mistake -- that's partisan hubris.

What price has Obama paid for his hubris?

Dem candidates now will run away from him knowing they want to get reelected in November.

What is shocking is that the AP and the LA Times are running articles claiming that Obamacare is doing well because 7 million signed up. Hey, are they the same 6.2 million who had their policies cancelled due to Obamacare?
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