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#37341
Businesses are lashing out over an Arizona bill that would allow retailers to refuse service to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender customers based on the owners' religious convictions. The Arizona Legislature passed the bill last Thursday, and it is now awaiting Gov. Jan Brewer's signature. While proponents say the legislation was introduced as a way to afford religious freedom to business owners, critics say it opens the door to discrimination.

"When the legislature passes bills like this, it creates a reputation that Arizona is judgmental and unwelcoming," states a letter that more than 80 businesses sent to Gov. Brewer on Monday. "This will haunt our business community for decades to come."

National corporations including American Airlines (AAL), AT&T (ATT ), Delta Airlines (DAL, Fortune 500), Intel (INTC, Fortune 500), Marriott (MAR, Fortune 500), PetSmart (PETM, Fortune 500) and Yelp (YELP) are among those urging Brewer to veto the bill, saying the law would be bad for the state's reputation and bad for business -- repelling tourists, potential employees and current workers who live in the state. "I can assure you that this proposed legislation is causing tremendous concerns for our employees, particularly those who live and work in Arizona," American Airlines CEO Doug Parker wrote in a letter to Brewer. Meanwhile, Intel, which has nearly 12,000 employees in Arizona, said the bill directly conflicts with its own non-discrimination policy, which "values and welcomes diversity in the workplace."

A local Tucson pizza shop, Rocco's Little Chicago Pizzeria, has received national attention for opposing the bill by putting up a sign saying it reserves the right to refuse service to Arizona legislators. Meanwhile, business development groups fear that new companies will no longer want to relocate to the state -- dealing a huge blow to an economy that is only just beginning to recover from the recession. Barry Broome, president & CEO of the Greater Phoenix Economic Council, said in a letter to Gov. Brewer that four companies that were considering expanding to Arizona have already threatened to cancel their plans unless the bill is vetoed.

Even Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500), which recently announced plans to build a new glass plant in Mesa, Ariz., and bring 2,000 new jobs to the state, reportedly called on Brewer to veto the bill. There are also questions about whether next year's Super Bowl would still take place in Arizona if the bill is passed, with the event expected to be a big boon to the economy. "This legislation has the potential of subjecting the Super Bowl, and major events surrounding it, to the threats of boycotts," Broome's letter states.
#37381
You boys have something against religious freedom? Apparently fags in Arizona don't understand that a business owner has the right to refuse service to anyone. Whenever they hear the word "No", they sue. This law is simply telling the fags....business owners have rights too.
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By tvd
#37423
Notice that when government gets involved, problems arise.
A business owner, who has shouldered (born, just to get a rise) the expense and risk of starting and running his business, and who has chosen the demographic he wants to service....why the fuck does the government have ANY right at all to tell him who he must serve?

Got a local business here....12 employees, construction. Labor dept audit time...they found that the one black guy was not getting the hours that the others were getting. " WHY? We are going to make this an issue." Thirty years in business owner responds: "He has no license to plumb or do electrical work. He has a felony record, so he cannot get badged in to work out at the Space Center, where we do 2/3 of our jobs." And so on.

So again, the government sticks its nose in, has no clue regarding the circumstances, makes the risk taking small business owner jump thru hoops....all for shit.
#37430
...and then the Labor Department auditor said, "Oh, now I understand" and went about his day.

You clowns need to understand that when you are licensed by the government to do business, you are subject to its rules of doing business.
Tough break for all the Libertarians out there.
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By tvd
#37431
No, he didn't just go on his way.

And re: licensing....who put the licensing requirement in? Why the government, of course.
The government needs to butt the fuck out of our lives.
Or, I would compromise, and allow (overlook) their intrusion, if they did it in an efficient, non-wasteful, and practical manner.

Oh, guys, Clown uses the stealth mode to browse this website. A kinda deceitful tactic...akin to having multi-nicks.
#37439
You clowns need to understand that when you are licensed by the government to do business, you are subject to its rules of doing business.
When you run a business and accept money for your services you are actually providing your work product to that customer, there is no law that can force a citizen to work for another person. What you have are civil suits that allow anyone to sue anyone, you have gays using the threats of lawsuits to force people to work for them, the Arizona law would protect businesses from those lawsuits.

Yes Grog I agree with the Arizona law that gives business owners the choice of who they work for and protects them from lawsuits.
#37467
Brewer will probably veto this anyhow.

CNN and the networks have been flipping out about it.

Once this is over, the leftist journalists will have more time to dig into the lies Hillary and Obama told about Benghazi.

Yeah, sure they will.
By Grog
#37472
Brewer did veto it, proving she hates America, Christians and God.

JustFreedManMe will always be left to wonder if he might have been able to push her toward favoring religious freedom with a just a short note.


On the positive side, Forbes will now be able to take his planned trip to AZ to recruit towel boys for the Foley Institute's steam room and "legal" wrestling facility without fear of being denied "servicing" on his many festive shopping soirees.
#37475
Brewer did veto it, proving she hates America, Christians and God.
She did it because the negatives out weighed the positives for her State. Although the Law was the right thing to do, the media, the Federal Government and even the NFL threatened to punish Arizona if it was passed. Shows how screwed out country is under Obama.
#37476
Brewer will probably veto this anyhow.

CNN and the networks have been flipping out about it.

Once this is over, the leftist journalists will have more time to dig into the lies Hillary and Obama told about Benghazi.
By Grog
#37478
Now you're complaining about the NFL exercising its beliefs? How unAmerican. Remember, "Corportations are people, too, my friend." And the Citizens United ruling enshrined the notion that not only does money = free speech, mo money = mo free speech. The NFL was just being being staunchly pro-'Merican.

The New Republic of Texas beckons Real 'Mericans, Real Patriots, Real Christians. Naturally Jan Brewer will not be allowed asylum under the first President of New Texas, Sarah Palin.
By Benny
#37482
The majority of Americans (73–80%) identify themselves as Christians and [2][3] According to the American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) (2008) 76% of the American adult population identified themselves as Christians, with 51% professing attendance at a variety of churches that could be considered Protestant or unaffiliated, and 25% professing Catholic beliefs.
And that's really the problem with immature leftists who are committed to knee jerk attacking traditional Americans. They're just not that bright.
#37487
Has anyone else noticed how obsessed Grog continues to be over the subject of Sara Palin?

This stems from an event that took place a few years back when Grog suffered the public humiliation and was unceremoniously dumped, on these pages, by someone he and several of his delusional contemporaries were chasing all over the interwebs. They would pursue each other from website to website, forum to forum, each beating his chest and proclaiming their virulent masculinity and overflowing levels of testosterone in a vain attempt to win the affections of the queen of anal sex and beer farts, Tori. This amused the queen of beer farts and anal sex to no end, watching the juvenile antics of her pack of would be suitors, snapping at each other as if they were all a bunch of dogs chasing the only bitch in town that was in heat.

In truth, the only chance Grog ever had of satisfying the queen of anal sex and beer farts would be if he were able to insert his gigantic, ethnic nose into her gaping anal cavity (where a Greyhound bus could enter and make a U turn). His tiny Jew dick never had a chance.

Now all Grog has left are the memories of what never was and could not be, his fat, frumpy frau in her tattered house dress and fuzzy slippers, a bottle of hand lotion, box of Kleenex, and obsessive visions of Sara Palin dancing in his delusional mind.

Sorry to bring up all those painful memories of your pitiful slap down and humiliation (no I'm not). And to preempt your anticipated ripost, no, I never was one of the mob of idiots who made fools of yourselves (that really was amazingly hilarious to watch, much like two carloads of liberals hitting each other head on at a combined rate of closure exceeding 150 mph) chasing the illusion of the most remote possibility of EVER so much as occupying the same area code of the queen of anal sex and beer farts, Tori.

You poor, sick, delusional putz. Crack open your first Schlitz of the day and go beat your wife.

And Grog, no American uses the word, "whilst."

Busted.

Are you a Canuckistanian or some sort of Brit twit?

No matter, when they come to take you to the showers, inhale deeply.












Arbeit macht frei!



(OK Lucky, you junkie stoner pot head, I jerked your leash too so sit up and dance like the trained junkie monkey you are. Unless the needle is still in and you are on the nod)
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By tvd
#37496
Intrepid wrote: And Grog, no American uses the word, "whilst."

Busted.

Are you a Canuckistanian or some sort of Brit twit?
And there you have it, Grog/Clown/TrickyDick/Lucky...(whoever the fuck you are...)
You have TELLS. "Whilst" is one of them.

Busted. Limey fag.
By Grog
#37498
Oh dear! Whilst I was away, the board's Aryan Nations representative, Insipid, has jotted quite the lengthy tome! And whilst I confess to mentioning Mrs. Palin once a month or so, I don't believe that constitutes an obsession, certainly not the kind of obsession Insipid displays with me or the fair damsel Tori, who undoubtedly incurred his seething wrath by ignoring or rebuffing his grubby affections long ago.

Still, I'm quite impressed with his... efforts to accurately express... whatever it is. Most Grand Dragon hopefuls don't know that many words to actually type. Whilst knowing that many words might be seen as a positive imbuement in many endeavors, I suspect it would incur a most wary suspicion amongst his Klan brethren. As such I might suggest he tone down the show-off flourish of verbiage whilst comporting with the mono-syllabic types at Stormfront lest they believe he is possessed of some type of formal education beyond the eighth grade (I believe that's the epitome of so-called "middle school" in the States of Hysteria).

Nevertheless, jolly good show, old chap!


As an aside for my newest mate, tvd; Whilst I am aware that you attempted to insult me by calling me a "limey fag," I feel that I must tell you that in limey parlance you called me a "limey cigarette." Still, good effort on your part, old son!

Cheerio!
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By tvd
#37507
In true Clownkicker fashion, I will respond:
Oh, no I didn't mean it as an insult.
I just meant to succinctly communicate the central point of the conclusions that I have arrived at...without actually being guilty of drawing conclusions from anything a VW denizen posts over and over again.

No, no insult intended. Just an innocent observation, but I wasn't really making observations....you gotta believe that....really....Because making observations and drawing conclusions are only conservative shortcomings....

So, if you don't like "limey fag" how about "British fanny"? And by the way, you could also be defined as a "Sterling King butt". But we digress.

Whilst this whole discussion is probably preventing your evening dogging sessions and tooth brushing regimen, we here in 'Merica are certainly ever-intently listening to your incessant criticism, and giving it just exactly as much attention as it deserves.








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