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By RealJustme
#35316
The Iran Foreign Minister was CNN today
Said the Iranian foreign minister, "The White House version both underplays the concessions and overplays Iranian commitment. The White House tries to portray it as basically a dismantling of Iran's nuclear program. That is the word they use time and again. And I urge you to read the entire text. If you find a single, a single word that even closely resembles dismantling or could be defined as dismantling in the entire text, then I would take back my comment." Zarif clarifies, "We did not agree to dismantle anything our nuclear program will continue. This is a lie your President is telling you plus we have received far more concessions than is being told."

CNN reached out to the White House who explained "Iran is bluffing about not dismantling their nuclear program, we know by now Iran can't be trusted" When the CNN reporter asked when the White House would release the text of the Iran nuclear deal, he was told part of the agreement with Iran was that the text of the deal would be classified as secret to avoid outside interference.
Even CNN's Wolf Blitzer said he was confused at this point as to what the Obama Administration is trying to pull off.
By Grog
#35319
Sounds like it's getting closer and closer for you to activate the 101st keyboarders to invade Iran, JustFreedManMe.

Send us postcards from the front!












General Cheney
By Grog
#35325
Can you not read? I want guys like you and Justme to stop typing and get out of your recliners and strap on battle harness and get over there to kick some Muzzie ass. You've frequently mentioned things along the lines of how you're ready to fight and such for your conservative 'Merican values and such.

Here's your chance. PM (private message) Justme and some of the other Real Patriots around here, contact your Teamail contacts and activate your brigade. Take the fight to the Iranians before they can bring the fight here again. Bush allowed that to happen a while back. Do you want that to happen again?
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By RealJustme
#35327
Grog can't see, he's blinded by the koolaid. Obama says Iran has agreed to destroy their nuclear weapons program, Iran says Obama is lying "our nuclear weapon program is still in place", Obama says they're lying, trust me not Iran. Iran say we're going to kill you, Obama says no they're not trust me not them.
By Grog
#35329
I see exactly what's going on. They're both jockeying and slightly saber rattling to curry favorable world opinion. That's how these things work, especially with the Iranians because the elected Iranian leadership have to be very, very careful with the Iranian clerics who control everything.

What you see Obama and the Iranians saying in public isn't the same as what they are saying to each other in private. Of course you may misconstrue that as Obama is selling the U.S. out, but your view and limited understanding do not reflect real reality.
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By RealJustme
#35332
What you see Obama and the Iranians saying in public isn't the same as what they are saying to each other in private.
I agree they're both lying to us. Iran doesn't owe the American public the truth, but our own Government does.
By Grog
#35334
That's because you don't understand how international relations work.

You also don't seem to grasp what should be the obvious fact that by publicly telling Americans what's going on, it would telling everyone what's going on.

It's been that way for at least 6000 or so years.
By johnforbes
#35341
Whether Obama ever heard of Hans Morgenthuau is unknown.

Obama's courses, like his SAT and LSAT scores, are secret.

Six years after all the "hope and change" stuff, here is what Obama sycophants are left with -- saying Obama is no worse than all the other sleazy, dishonest politicians in history.
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By RealJustme
#35348
That's because you don't understand how international relations work.
There's no way for you to know that, but one thing we do know after 5 years of Obama, is that he certainly doesn't.
By Clownkicker
#35350
Yes, Obama is no worse than all the other sleazy, dishonest politicians in history.

Not to worry, johnforbes. He's simply another transient politician with a different political opinion from yours.
You have told us in the past that such transient politicians are not to upset us when we warned you all about W. Bush implementing the NSA domestic spying program.
You acted superior and scoffed at our 'childish' outrage.

Now you are here with your panties in a bunch, all upset that one man can singlehandedly 'destroy the greatness of the U.S.' in a mere five years.
I remind you that he's just another transient politician with a different political opinion so you can sleep tonight like he is just another Republican sleazebag that doesn't bother you.
By Grog
#35351
Of course there are ways to know you don't know what you're talking about, again, JustFreedManMe;

First, you're posting. That alone is a dead giveaway with you.

Second, your posts on this thread in particular and thousands of others over the years reveal that you know very little about anything beyond highly amateurish trolling.

In this specific matter, you want Obama to tell Americans what's going on without comprehending that the Iranians running the show also watch Fox and MSNBC and CNN in addition to Al Jazeera and the BBC and read Reuters and on and on.







Marco
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By RealJustme
#35355
In this specific matter, you want Obama to tell Americans what's going on without comprehending that the Iranians running the show also watch Fox and MSNBC and CNN in addition to Al Jazeera and the BBC and read Reuters and on and on.
Iran is already saying Obama is putting out false information about the agreement to the media and that Obama is giving Iran more than Obama is telling Americans. The sad part is do believe Iran is being more truthful with Americans about the agreement than Obama is.
By Grog
#35356
Maybe Forbes, or even Silly will help you out with this perplexing conundrum you find yourself in, again.

Remember, as a conservative you need to believe what you believe above all else. For conservatives, beliefs and fears trump all else.









The Donald
By Grog
#35424
Uh-oh. How long before Forbes once again starts challenging others to feats of strength and endurance?

Young Brandon? If Forbes contacts you offline about engaging in some kind of nude wrestling/grappling match, don't do it! Leroy did and he's still in jail.
By johnforbes
#35436
Grog's own raging homosexuality causes him to project.

Not a single person here condemns Grog for his egregious gayness.

Per contra, Grog is condemned for his overwhelming, overweening, wimpy, and wussified blather.
By Grog
#35442
No. You're the one who has repeatedly challenged other posters here to various athletic competitions and frequently tries to lure the unsuspecting to your private "credentials" page.
By johnforbes
#35531
Not at all, silly Grog.

You, and other little ants, have tried to prance and preen arrogantly.

But you are simply a dolt on the Internet who would be afraid to compare credentials in real life, and you'd be afraid to engage in even some utterly legal athletic competition, and you'd be afraid to reveal your mediocre intellect in even online academic trivia.

Grog, go crawl inside another bottle of ethanol.
By Grog
#35541
See? He just did it again with the " compare credentials" and "utterly legal athletic competition."

Wonder why he had to stipulate "legal?"

Run Young Brandon! Run!
By johnforbes
#35626
I stipulated legal because I don't do, or suggest, illegal things.

Sports are utterly legal means of competition, which is why the Super Bowl (or Super Bore) will be above board.

That shouldn't run against the grain of Grog's lumbering intellect (no Sawyer author and certainly no JS Mill he).
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