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By Alogicalman
#32675
You can't turn on the television without someone attacking Obama or young black males. The attacks on blacks are extremely vile and at an all time high. The media is seeking out rare random examples of blacks not behaving and presenting them as what all blacks are like. Blaming Obama for the problems in the ACA rollout is nothing short of racism, the President didn't design the system, he trusted others, he's the victim in all of this.
#32698
Racism is easy to understand. More difficult to remediate.

Studies of young children has uncovered the roots of racism. As young children grow up they show little preference for one individual over another. Later they clearly learn to prefer those who treat them nicely. They also engage in quite reasonable preference for the moral over the nasty. Then they start to prefer the familiar friendly person even when they are nasty over the stranger even when they are moral and develop a preference to see the unfamiliar person punished when they are in conflict with a familiar friendly person even when morality is on the side of the stranger. The basis for racism.

Then comes the divergence. Socialization and learning of moral values. Some people live is racist environments and have strong influences to remain racist. Some people have low capabilities of socialization and remain racist even though they live in fundamentally moral social settings. Then, some people socialize with strong moral values in concert with or despite their social surroundings. There is great genetic and social influence in humans as well as all other annals. Their is a full spectrum from more those strongly influenced by socialization and community and others soley interested in themselves and filled by fear of others. All this is based in what is clearly strong genetic influence modified by our socialization into a community.

The only real problem arises when a community accepts the vile and anti-social racism that is in many ways very natural to all animals. The individual holds great responsibility for their racism, but the community in which they live holds equal responsibility for accepting that racism and not speaking out against it. Not speaking out gives tacit approval for this anti-social behavior.

Yes, I am sure there are many more details, but these are the basics. They are basic to our genetics and adaptations for survival in much smaller more uniform tribal environments where racism contributes to survival. In these more violent and primitive environments racism contributes to survival of your own kind. In our mega scale societies racism causes conflict and inefficiencies. It's a very natural choice. When the total community is the 200 people of your village, racism makes a great deal of pragmatic sense for survival and property of the community. In our mega scale interlinked society, racism is strongly counter productive and irrational for the survival and prosperity of the community. Racism may have some myopic small scale local advantages, but it clearly reduces the prosperity and survivability of everyone in the society. That has always been true. Still, it is very hard for some to see beyond their own local "zero-sum" view of the world. Genetics plays a role. Lack of education and lack of proper socialization plays a role. To accept racism as bad requires a higher level of function and perspective where the larger scale pragmatic reality of the world trumps the tiny scale long lost primitive perspective view of the world. It's easy to be a racist when you don't see your dependency on those who are far away and different than you.

Racism in our current world is a maladaption to the mega scale interlinked world that is our reality in favor of a world that no longer exists. A clear indication that the racist is incapable of understanding his environment or poorly educated in the pragmatic skills needed to optimally survive in our mega scale social environment. Not so different to the more physical case of sickle cell anemia. Having sickle cell anemia kills you. In more primitive times, being a carrier for sickle cell anemia protected you from malaria, not having a sickle cell anemia gene killed you by malaria. In a society that can detect and treat malaria and can reduce malaria cases by controlling standing water and mosquitoes, the advantages of sickle cell anemia disappear, as do the advantages of racism.

Racism, it's completely natural, and now a clear maladaption to our complex, mega-scale environment. A failure of modern socialization to control more primitive compulsions that harm the racist, their target, and the well being and prosperity of our society.
By Clownkicker
#32707
"We let a black man become President..."-sillydaddy

No, you didn't "let" a black man become President, dimwit, unless you mean you called off your white supremacist militia before they marched into D.C. and started shooting.
A black man was elected (twice) by the majority of voters.
You weren't being somehow open minded and magnanimous by 'letting' it happen.
You had nothing to say in the matter.

"...and what does he do? He plays the race card every chance he gets."-sillydaddy

^^^^This from the clown who can't talk about the President here without repeatedly reminding everyone of how black he is? :lol:
By Alogicalman
#32708
Oprah was right, there will be racism in American until people like the Tea Party members just die. Once there dead there will be less racism. The media is running videos of a few young black males playing a hitting game over, over and over stirring the racist Tea Party people to pretend it's proof that all blacks are violent. The media should be showing all the good things minorities are doing for American instead of only trying to find the few bad incidents.
#32709
sillyass has one of the racist rant of lies down pat. He does expose himself for what he is. Then trhey wonder how we can so easily see them as racists. Quacks like a duck. Walks like a duck. Looks like a duck. Hangs out with ducks. I wonder what it is?
By sillydaddy
#32714
Clown ...you don't know shit. When I say we < I'm saying all of us real Americans who dropped our guard and allowed this imposter to get nominated and elected. Obama knows who we are,,,wer'e the ones he is constantly bitching about....the ones that are not going to let him destroy this country.
#32717
A lot of hate towards dark skinned people on this thread. Let's just dump the racist shit and deal with the problems facing America. Throwing bones to minorities while keeping them in slavery isn't the solution, the playing field needs to be leveled, we should all work towards that goal so there is no them and us. Get behind Obama or get the hell out of the way so he can fix this mess.
#32724
Sadly, racism is one of the fundamental aspects of the modern Republican Party. Until, the Republican Party ignores it's racist elements or becomes irrelevant because it is reduced to a small size consisting primarily of it's racist elements, we all need to contend with the effects of racists in control of a major American political party and their destructive policies. Also, as long as the Republican Party supports racists, those racists will feel empowered to speak out without fear of being ostracized as they should be. It's the same with any vile element of our society. If we don't speak out against murderers, thieves, or rapists, murderers, thieves, and rapists will thrive in our society.
By johnforbes
#32732
Sadly, grand conclusions such as ascribing racism to people with different political opinions is lazy and irresponsible.

Obama has played the race card constantly.

Indeed, the main argument in favor of Obama ever being elected was that he was 1/2 black and thus a symbol of the Civil Rights Movement.

Obama's entire career depended on the race card, and every time he is in trouble you see him play the race card again.
By sillydaddy
#32739
Yes.....And blacks are so blind with loyalty they don't see what a liar and hyprocrite Obama really is. They all cheered when he insisted on taking the most important oath in his life and in black American history, on a white man's family bible !.......A Republican !
By elklindo69
#32743
sillydaddy wrote:Yes.....And blacks are so blind with loyalty they don't see what a liar and hyprocrite Obama really is. They all cheered when he insisted on taking the most important oath in his life and in black American history, on a white man's family bible !.......A Republican !
Kennedy was the only Catholic elected as president and Obama the first black, so what's the outrage from the WASP camp?

They have been in power for hundreds of years....
By johnforbes
#32759
The point -- again, this is obvious to any intelligent reader -- is that the loyalty to Obama is over 90 percent and it comes from blacks.

Now one may take the liberal viewpoint and ascribe this to mere pride, or racial loyalty, but liberals are very, very quick to attribute racist motivation to others.

Conveniently, however, they miss Obama's past. He attended the most expensive private school in Hawaii. His mother was on the board of a bank.

Obama was 1/2 white, so he attended Wright's racist sermons to gain credibility with Chicago blacks.

Each and every time Obama has been in trouble, he has played the race card.

Apologists for Obama say today that any opposition to Obama is race-based.

That is not only disgraceful and untrue, but intellectually lazy.
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By RealJustme
#32854
blacks are so blind with loyalty they don't see what a liar and hyprocrite Obama really is
They're not voting for him out of loyalty and they're not blind, theye voted for Obama because he's darker than the person he ran against. That's why blacks want to see pictures on ballets so they know how to vote.

Carlos
#32857
"That's why blacks want to see pictures on ballets so they know how to vote."-RealTool

^^^^^Come on, tell me nobody else finds that stuff hilarious.
It's like Archie Bunker never went off the air. :lol:
By Clownkicker
#32860
johnforbes isn't black, but he regularly watches movies of the Alvin Ailey Dance Theater while he's on his treadmill because he feels invigorated when he sees young black men in tights cavort around the room.
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By brandon
#32879
The OP is an ignorant tool conservative dork sock coward racist stirring up a thread.

That being said... to answer his question....

There are many reasons. Some legitimate, most not. When you have had complete power and control of the world's most powerful nation and it's wealth for 200 plus years, you can afford to play the race and class hustle without worry. Especially when you've got 'em broke and starving and you're feeding 50 million of them.

Disgusting.

That's why you stupid motherfucker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JSBhI_0at0
By johnforbes
#32908
No, I'm not black.

However, Clownhicker apparently can't post without delving into his homo fantasy life.

The rest of us are here to discuss politics, not Clownhicker's deviant lifestyle.
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