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#26273
Amazing! She testified that Trayvon said that a "creepy ass cracker" was following him. When the defense asked if she felt that statement was racist she said no she didn't. Liberals and even Democrat politicians are defending her saying she's a black 19 year old, those who are critical just don't understand that's the way young blacks talk and that there is no racism involved.

Imagine if a 19 year old white woman testified that she didn't feel the term "creepy ass nigger" was racist. Would those same liberals and politicians be defending her and claiming that's just the way 19 year old white's talk and there is nothing racist or wrong with that term? Hell no, everyone would be calling for her head including me.

What the hell is happening in this Country?
#26310
Michelle Obama has commented on her thoughts of the trial.
"First lady Michelle Obama spoke to members of the African Methodist Episcopal Church this morning. When asked about her thoughts on the Zimmerman trail she kept her response brief "I have great faith in our current justice department and hope that justice is done in the Trayvon Martin death case. There has been far to much suffering already, a young teenager's life was ended and you must ask for what? I'm afraid if justice isn't done, many will lose hope for equality and things may get out of control in attempts to bring about needed changes."
#26336
George Zimmerman, Fox News, and the supposedly kind/humane conservatives, all just assumed Martin was guilty of something.
You seem to be missing the point here, this is about proving Zimmerman is guilty. What we do now know is that Martin was a racist by his own girlfriend's statement, so hatred was an issue against a creepy ass cracker. Imagine if a witness testified that Zimmerman said he was following a creepy ass nigger. The person with racist anger and motivation to attack bit off more than he could chew and is now worm food. Funny how things seem to work out.
#26350
The witness looks somewhat different from Jeanteal of film fame
That's an understatement! Rachel is a prime example of the type of person Africans sold to America into slavery to try and cleanse their gene pool, just as Mexico is dumping their bottom feeders on us.
#26361
RealJustme wrote:
The witness looks somewhat different from Jeanteal of film fame
That's an understatement! Rachel is a prime example of the type of person Africans sold to America into slavery to try and cleanse their gene pool, just as Mexico is dumping their bottom feeders on us.
That's exactly what the WASPs used to say about the immigrants from southern Europe who came though Ellis Island more than 100 years ago. They were branded as Irish and Italian euro trash Catholics.

Now this woman is getting the same dehumanizing treatment. The ridicule and laughter comes from the same belief that causes white people to chase after innocent and unarmed black kids who just happen to be passing through a gated community where white people live for no reason at all.

I suppose that you can classify her as "black trash" because she can't read cursive or doesn't have the prim and proper white girl attitude. Now Justme, you can dismiss her because court room demeanor or grammar skills, but that says more about you, whoever you are, than her...
#26398
I suppose that you can classify her as "black trash" because she can't read cursive or doesn't have the prim and proper white girl attitude. Now Justme, you can dismiss her because court room demeanor or grammar skills, but that says more about you, whoever you are, than her...
Liberals always try and pretend actions and behavior have no consequences, bullshit, time to put your big boy panties on and start calling a spade a spade. If a person acts like an idiot there is nothing wrong with calling them an idiot.
#26399
I spent part of the past year doing an ancestral history. It grew to 200 pages and was published last year. So I actually know a bit about the history of Irish immigration.

There was total chaos re immigration before 1855. Ellis was not opened until 1892. It burned down and was rebuilt (masonry). It reopened in 1900.

My gg grandfather, who came from Ireland in 1880, was processed through Castle Garden. He was educated in the secular school system in Donegal, which after about 1830 was surprisingly advanced.

My gg grandfather's brother, who came along, got his first job as a secretary for a lawyer who was nominated by President Buchanan for the US Sup Ct. The nomination didn't go through, but the lawyer wrote in French and Spanish, and my relative helped with that.

Immigrants from Mexico today tend to have less formal education than most (not all) Irish immigrants who came after 1880. By that time, Irish immigration was a far cry from the "coffin ships" or the flight from the Potato Famine of the 1840s.
#26402
RealJustme wrote:
I suppose that you can classify her as "black trash" because she can't read cursive or doesn't have the prim and proper white girl attitude. Now Justme, you can dismiss her because court room demeanor or grammar skills, but that says more about you, whoever you are, than her...
Liberals always try and pretend actions and behavior have no consequences, bullshit, time to put your big boy panties on and start calling a spade a spade. If a person acts like an idiot there is nothing wrong with calling them an idiot.
So she doesn't act in the way that you think is proper that means she's an idiot???
#26433
RealJustme wrote:
So she doesn't act in the way that you think is proper that means she's an idiot???
elklindo69 Posts: 527Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:49 pm
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No, being an idiot makes her an idiot.
LOL

hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

No spin left..........
#26456
These idiots defending this girl's behavior are teaching their children that black people being a victim of their own culture is just how they roll. And that creating a subculture full of racism and double standards to separate and absolve themselves from the rest of America and their responsibilities as members of civilized society to preserve their victimhood is ok is probably the greatest example of perpetuating racism and ignorance I have ever seen.

I have to assume that somebody claiming to be the smartest guy in the room while at the same time somehow failing to realize they are perpetuating ignorance has to be a racist.

And shame on you Dick, I thought you were smarter than that.

Peace out crackas!
#26459
The only mention of race in Obama's first campaign was from him -- when he said he didn't look like people on American money.

Every time Obama didn't get his way, he would use the race card.

His supporters have dumbed down politics to such an extent that they say anybody who wants a sovereign country with secure borders hates Mexicans and is a racist.

There's never been a more race-baiting Administration than the present one.

Anybody who doesn't agree with my post is, of course, a racist.
#26642
Now Justme, you can dismiss her because court room demeanor or grammar skill
Why would I want to dismiss her, I believe Zimmerman acted in self defense and her testimony proved it was Trayvon who was an angry racist who didn't like Zimmerman who he called a creepy ass cracker. The Government has done a great job of keeping Rachel dumb, dependent on handouts and angry to insure she stays on the plantation.
#26647
RealJustme wrote:
Now Justme, you can dismiss her because court room demeanor or grammar skill
Why would I want to dismiss her, I believe Zimmerman acted in self defense and her testimony proved it was Trayvon who was an angry racist who didn't like Zimmerman who he called a creepy ass cracker. The Government has done a great job of keeping Rachel dumb, dependent on handouts and angry to insure she stays on the plantation.
WRONG...Out of context.

Zimmerman aggressively pursued Martin in defiance of the recommendation of the dispatcher. Zimmerman then precipitated the confrontation with Martin and provoked a fight which created the circumstances that lead Zimmerman to shoot Martin.

If Zimmerman heeded with wisdom of the dispatcher, and did not exit the vehicle, then none of this would have ever happened. The prosecution has clearly demonstrated that he was a man on a mission, looking for action, and Zimmerman got it.

The cops want the Zimmerman's of the world to stay off the streets. Millions of man hours are spent on neighborhood block patrols without incident because people know not to confront. They let the professionals go in and do their job. But Zimmerman was different, he's a clown amateur who thought he was the caped crusader of Sanford Fl. Patrolling the neighborhood in his Batmobile. Armed with a gun on his utility belt and packing heat. He feels the power of the gun and has no fear of confronting Martin.

But unlike in a Batman film in this real life tragedy, an innocent person got killed.
#26669
elklindo69 wrote:WRONG...Out of context.

Zimmerman aggressively pursued Martin in defiance of the recommendation of the dispatcher. Zimmerman then precipitated the confrontation with Martin and provoked a fight which created the circumstances that lead Zimmerman to shoot Martin.

If Zimmerman heeded with wisdom of the dispatcher, and did not exit the vehicle, then none of this would have ever happened. The prosecution has clearly demonstrated that he was a man on a mission, looking for action, and Zimmerman got it.
There you go again, making shit up and lying.

1) The 9-11 dispatcher did not tell GZ to not follow TM, she told him "We don't need you to do that" - there is nothing binding in that statement, nothing demanding in that statement. He (GZ) had seen other suspicious people get away before the police had arrived, he thought this would be the same.

2) This is the important part - Following a Suspicious person and reporting them to the police is not an act of confrontation, in fact, it's what people should do, all the time. Even Chicago Jesus tells people to report suspicious activity.

3) As we've heard from testimony, it was TM that doubled back on GZ, it was TM that was confronting GZ, and that's the actions (combined with his history of being a thug) that caused this entire situation.

4) None of this would have happened if TM had just said, hey, stop following me, I live at XXX and I'm calling the police, without attacking GZ.
#26678
Leroy wrote:
elklindo69 wrote:WRONG...Out of context.

Zimmerman aggressively pursued Martin in defiance of the recommendation of the dispatcher. Zimmerman then precipitated the confrontation with Martin and provoked a fight which created the circumstances that lead Zimmerman to shoot Martin.

If Zimmerman heeded with wisdom of the dispatcher, and did not exit the vehicle, then none of this would have ever happened. The prosecution has clearly demonstrated that he was a man on a mission, looking for action, and Zimmerman got it.
2) This is the important part - Following a Suspicious person and reporting them to the police is not an act of confrontation, in fact, it's what people should do, all the time. Even Chicago Jesus tells people to report suspicious activity.

3) As we've heard from testimony, it was TM that doubled back on GZ, it was TM that was confronting GZ, and that's the actions (combined with his history of being a thug) that caused this entire situation.

4) None of this would have happened if TM had just said, hey, stop following me, I live at XXX and I'm calling the police, without attacking GZ.
#2...Oh sure it does. That's the crux of the prosecution's case. Zimmerman followed in his truck, then got out. He got out and went to confront Martin not to look for a street sign.

#3 That's bullshit, pure speculation. The witness at trial testified:

She said she heard Trayvon say "Why you following me for?" Then she said she heard a "hard-breathing man" say, "what are you doing around here?"

Then, she said, she heard Trayvon say "get off, get off."

Did you ever speak to Trayvon again, de la Rionda asked.
"No," Jeantel said.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national ... tin/66625/

#4 None of this would have happened if Zimmerman would have stayed in his vehicle...
#26691
elklindo69 wrote:
Leroy wrote:
elklindo69 wrote:WRONG...Out of context.

Zimmerman aggressively pursued Martin in defiance of the recommendation of the dispatcher. Zimmerman then precipitated the confrontation with Martin and provoked a fight which created the circumstances that lead Zimmerman to shoot Martin.

If Zimmerman heeded with wisdom of the dispatcher, and did not exit the vehicle, then none of this would have ever happened. The prosecution has clearly demonstrated that he was a man on a mission, looking for action, and Zimmerman got it.
2) This is the important part - Following a Suspicious person and reporting them to the police is not an act of confrontation, in fact, it's what people should do, all the time. Even Chicago Jesus tells people to report suspicious activity.

3) As we've heard from testimony, it was TM that doubled back on GZ, it was TM that was confronting GZ, and that's the actions (combined with his history of being a thug) that caused this entire situation.

4) None of this would have happened if TM had just said, hey, stop following me, I live at XXX and I'm calling the police, without attacking GZ.
#2...Oh sure it does. That's the crux of the prosecution's case. Zimmerman followed in his truck, then got out. He got out and went to confront Martin not to look for a street sign.

#3 That's bullshit, pure speculation. The witness at trial testified:

She said she heard Trayvon say "Why you following me for?" Then she said she heard a "hard-breathing man" say, "what are you doing around here?"

Then, she said, she heard Trayvon say "get off, get off."

Did you ever speak to Trayvon again, de la Rionda asked.
"No," Jeantel said.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national ... tin/66625/

#4 None of this would have happened if Zimmerman would have stayed in his vehicle...
The witness also testified that she could hear GRASS on the ground, and she's changed her testimony several times since first giving it, and she's a racist by her own comments....

There is absolutely NOTHING credible in ANY of her testimony, she even contradicts herself in it.
#27051
#4 None of this would have happened if Zimmerman would have stayed in his vehicle...


Yep.

If that fucker would've jumped out of car on me, after following me, I wouldn't have attempted to throw hands with him. I'da just busted a cap on his ass after a few steps.

You suburban boys are funny.
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